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Death Battle Discussion

Goku is gonna come back who he might fight against will be a question cause they aren't bringing goku back for another L with Clark

however this been pushed lately
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Goku alone coming back is guaranteed views, as he's a household name. Doesn't matter who he fights.

Jin Mori's series will get a boost in notoriety, if nothing else, despite the massive L he'll take in this. :mjlol
 
I saw much more close against the Goku of GT but seen what has been seen will be with the one from Supah.

Jin is only galactic levels but I think that they will interpret the nirvana thing to give him universal level and not notice so much stomp, they have done things like that before.
 
Goku needs to get a win. Currently chilling in the 0-2 club with Hulk, Captain Marvel, and the newest member Darth Vader
Issue is he has real no good choice. Seiya trashes him. He is obscenely above Toriko, Saitama, and Mori Jin. There's basically no body for him. Maybe Sailor Moon but she's better off fighting Seiya and honestly she's way more hax'd than Galaxia ever was.
 
Issue is he has real no good choice. Seiya trashes him. He is obscenely above Toriko, Saitama, and Mori Jin. There's basically no body for him. Maybe Sailor Moon but she's better off fighting Seiya and honestly she's way more hax'd than Galaxia ever was.
Main thing that hurts Goku is that he’s a universe destroying brick. Once you get to that level, it’s almost always with an obscene about of hax and abilities. Something Goku seriously lacks since he’s as straightforward as they come in terms of fighting.
 
Main thing that hurts Goku is that he’s a universe destroying brick. Once you get to that level, it’s almost always with an obscene about of hax and abilities. Something Goku seriously lacks since he’s as straightforward as they come in terms of fighting.
I mean Goku has Hakai and Sealing granted Hakai is manga exclusive and ain't that good but it's something
 
I mean Goku has Hakai and Sealing granted Hakai is manga exclusive and ain't that good but it's something
He also has a barrier that makes potent poison useless, UI, at least in the anime, gave him solid dodge hax without any weakening drawback, until he gets hit with the backlash effect, not to mention, despite not using it anymore, he does have mind-reading as an ability, provided he can touch his opponent's head. We also know he can spam teleportation while battling in an effective manner, so that's another plus for him.
 
He also has a barrier that makes potent poison useless, UI, at least in the anime, gave him solid dodge hax without any weakening drawback, until he gets hit with the backlash effect, not to mention, despite not using it anymore, he does have mind-reading as an ability, provided he can touch his opponent's head. We also know he can spam teleportation while battling in an effective manner, so that's another plus for him.
Yeah Goku ain't really lacking in abilities and has some decent haxes hell he even use paralysis like he did with ikari Broly and uses telekinesis ala force style like he did with Moro n Clone Granolah
 
Yeah Goku ain't really lacking in abilities and has some decent haxes hell he even use paralysis like he did with ikari Broly and uses telekinesis ala force style like he did with Moro n Clone Granolah
Goku's only a 'flying brick' when compared to certain others in his weight class. When looked at from a more broad perspective, he's actually a lot more versatile than people give him credit for.
 
My favorite Goku strategy was when had the genius idea to simply dump more energy into an attack than that one alien in the Buu Saga could eat :tupac
 
Honestly, Goku is a far more experienced fighter and genius than Clark is...
The main issue is that Clark is such a nonsensical flying brick, none of that matters.

In terms of fighting, yes. His fight IQ is higher than Clark's is. That's what Xhom meant.
Nah. That’s disputable.

Superman isn’t a martial artists like Batman, Richard Dragon or Lady Shiva

But his Battle IQ ain’t lower than any of them, nor Goku.

Dude has massive experience fighting a much more diverse range of villains than any of the other’s I’ve listed. He’s had to be just as, if not more creative than Goku’s ever shown.
 
>Goku
>higher fight IQ than Clark

Lol no. Goku may be more skilled at Martial Arts , but in terms of knowing how to guide a fight, use powers creatively, or utilizing terrain, Clark runs miles around him
Clark is a master at guiding fights away from civilians to avoid casualties. Goku would go along with keeping the fight away from civilians regardless, so that point is moot.

In terms of the actual fight itself, Clark ain't running miles around him there. He'd run miles around him in a contest of mathematics or science, but in fighting itself, definitely not.

This isn't to say Clark doesn't have fight IQ himself, as he absolutely does, plenty of it, when writers aren't hellbent on downplaying him to make Batman look better, in JL comics, but it just isn't as high as Goku's is, when he's at his best, and not being chained by writers' PIS or CIS.
 
I know it sounds “illogical” considering the fact that Goku, Batman, and Lady Shiva are legit martial artists

But you take into consideration the fact that The diversity of Superman’s opponents vastly differ from Goku’s in terms of powers, haxs and approaches and it’s a completely different story

Goku would go along with keeping the fight away from civilians regardless, so that point is moot.
That’s not really the point. It’s the fact that Superman is used to different types of enemies that don’t play fair and thus he’s demonstrated clear creativity and problem solving skills in the heat of combat.

What’s more impressive, defeating an opponent 1v1 or defeating an opponent using civilians as meat sheilds—all while managing to leave all the civilians unharmed?
 
Whether Clarks battle Iq Rival's or beats goku is debatable thinking about it but I kinda keep remembering he and Goku mainly resort to unga bunga niggas
 
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