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Ratchet

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Then you have no reason to be bringing up 3rd man theory when yes that was the basis of your problem with me
Again, I've told you, explicitly, what my issue with your vote was. You keep tying it back to this silly theory and arguing against that - I don't really believe that the third person who votes in a wagon is always scum. That would be ridiculous, and I don't think for a second you truly believe that I was arguing that. I played it off initially to let it play out, but now we're at the point where I've shored your understanding up, and you keep wanting to deflect back to it. I suspect this is because you're incapable of arguing against what I'm actually taking exception with, so you keep going back to something you can argue against as a means of addressing my arguments. Feel free to prove me wrong.
 

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Yes I did. You can't just insist it didn't happen because you aren't registering it. My argument is perfectly within reason. I think his vote is less egregious and I can reconcile it very easily as within character for him. You do not have this going for you. Instead, you keep wanting me to go back to Ultra as if suspecting you means I must suspect him - ignorant of the fact apparently that you are two very different players. I'm well aware that I can talk to him alongside you - I have no reason to do so.
Holy shit, no your argument is not within reason. By your own argument, you should be talking to us both, which is what I am saying, not to just drop me, and go fully for Ultra.
.... What the fuck is your second sentence. "This is very easily within character for him, its not for you"
thats just straight up bullshit and you know it. I meme and fluff post a shitton, youve known that for years. "Cant reconcile that with your character" my ass
 

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Ratchet's motivation seems entirely to be to justify the previous mistake of singling out Sig early, rather than an actual scumhunting purpose
 

Sigismund

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I assume you'd like to take over questioning then? Or are you just going to vote anyone who has some votes on them?

What makes you think it's random, as opposed to being motivated by some other factor?

It's fluff phase, come on

Unless you've got your own agenda and it involves getting rid of Sig

Yours was the 3rd vote, which made it the most egregious to me of the bunch.
Time will tell!

Again, I've told you, explicitly, what my issue with your vote was. You keep tying it back to this silly theory and arguing against that - I don't really believe that the third person who votes in a wagon is always scum. That would be ridiculous, and I don't think for a second you truly believe that I was arguing that. I played it off initially to let it play out, but now we're at the point where I've shored your understanding up, and you keep wanting to deflect back to it. I suspect this is because you're incapable of arguing against what I'm actually taking exception with, so you keep going back to something you can argue against as a means of addressing my arguments. Feel free to prove me wrong.
Yeah I believe thats what you were arguing based on your own words. No your only real problem with me was that I voted 3rd
 

Ratchet

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Holy shit, no your argument is not within reason. By your own argument, you should be talking to us both, which is what I am saying, not to just drop me, and go fully for Ultra.
.... What the fuck is your second sentence. "This is very easily within character for him, its not for you"
thats just straight up bullshit and you know it. I meme and fluff post a shitton, youve known that for years. "Cant reconcile that with your character" my ass
What? Like seriously, what? My argument is that your vote ran the risk of putting enough pressure on Kurumi that she might, plausibly, claim. None of what I said requires me to take the same issue with Ultra's vote that I have with yours. I've explained this enough times by now.

The second sentence stands. For Ultra, it is very much in character for him to try and get under the skin of Kurumi, and I don't think he would be too annoyed at her claiming out of this annoyance. I do not think you are of the same mindset as him. It has less to do with meme and fluff posting, and more to do with lacking regard for the consequences of this specific action.
 

Ratchet

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Yeah I believe thats what you were arguing based on your own words. No your only real problem with me was that I voted 3rd
You have no excuse for this - you've opted to try and tell me what I'm thinking lol. I've told you exactly what the issue is, you don't get to tell me it's something else because you think it's easier to address.

I can see your reaction as coming from town that's annoyed here - but it's a poor reaction because you're not extending any sort of charity to my actions, and it's really only because it's addressed to you. You've played long enough by now to be able to get past this sort of mindset, hence why I have some reservations with your responses.
 

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What? Like seriously, what? My argument is that your vote ran the risk of putting enough pressure on Kurumi that she might, plausibly, claim. None of what I said requires me to take the same issue with Ultra's vote that I have with yours. I've explained this enough times by now.

The second sentence stands. For Ultra, it is very much in character for him to try and get under the skin of Kurumi, and I don't think he would be too annoyed at her claiming out of this annoyance. I do not think you are of the same mindset as him. It has less to do with meme and fluff posting, and more to do with lacking regard for the consequences of this specific action.
So like I said, and like you said, your main issue was I voted 3rd. Not that I voted at all, not even that I lacked an explanation, but because of my position on where I voted. Your sophistry beyond that is nice, but its still boils down to "3rd man theory" by your own admission here and in other posts.
 

Ratchet

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So like I said, and like you said, your main issue was I voted 3rd. Not that I voted at all, not even that I lacked an explanation, but because of my position on where I voted. Your sophistry beyond that is nice, but its still boils down to "3rd man theory" by your own admission here and in other posts.
Only insofar as being third presented more risk, which is, charitably, careless of you. It has nothing to do with it being random chance, or some theory or whatever. Like, Christ, do you really believe I suspect you because of you being the third vote outright? It's not sophistry, it's context.
 

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What? Like seriously, what? My argument is that your vote ran the risk of putting enough pressure on Kurumi that she might, plausibly, claim. None of what I said requires me to take the same issue with Ultra's vote that I have with yours. I've explained this enough times by now.

The second sentence stands. For Ultra, it is very much in character for him to try and get under the skin of Kurumi, and I don't think he would be too annoyed at her claiming out of this annoyance. I do not think you are of the same mindset as him. It has less to do with meme and fluff posting, and more to do with lacking regard for the consequences of this specific action.
Lets test this out
Vote Lynch Kurumi
 
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