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Lindltaylor said:
It's not really level 1 play to take those things into consideration. Tweet decided to not vote Gad earlier in the day phase - I recall a post by him saying "I'm categorically not voting Gad" when Gad was very much the prime consideration for the lynch at that time. Your question about "if Nibel was in danger of being lynched" is answered by Tweet and me repeatedly putting pressure on his slot and continuously advocating for Nibel > Gad. You know this to be true since I quoted you as well on this.

Also, there's no way I come in EoD and just say "Nope" to the top 2 wagons and Vote Nibel when my position on Gad from day 1 and day 2 was that he was town and also gave my rationale that Reloaded is town. I realize that this is WIFOM, but the logic stands.


By virtue of this statement, what do I gain from advocating for a wagon completely different from Gad or the top two wagons if Gad was the easier lynch? Might as well have said "This drunk guy is avoiding a claim and isn't complying, and then suddenly complies later, let's vote him" because that's literally what happened.


I did do the same thing. You'd have to consider things differently with my slot. I advocated for Nibel > Gad. I repeatedly told players that Gad was more likely town. Staying away from the top 2 wagons isn't staying away from the heat when you've previously stated your reasons to stay away from it. You would agree here I assume.
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Breh this is the definition of level 1. If you or tweet are scum then you KNOW gad is town, thus it’s very very easy to say “this guy is town” and not vote there. Did tweet give any explanation for why he was SOO confident gad was town? Did he give an explanation at all for why reloaded was town? It’s possible I’m not remembering it but all I remember him saying is that gads reaction seems town. Again, that’s an unquantifiable read that’s easy to make as scum, and I don’t think it really explains the CATEGORICAL confidence in him being town.

What do you mean what do you gain by not going for the easy lynch? My brother that question answers itself. It’s an easy lynch that’s likely going to happen anyway with or without you. What you gain is you get a lynched townie and don’t have any dirt on your hands.

Scum tend to try and play to look good, yes?
 
Lindltaylor said:
Not really Poyser. You see that reads list is also built on the fact that you said last day phase that "RDK has done fuck all" and yet have him as town here.

I've asked you why and you haven't responded to me yet.
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You answered why I read him town in the question. I said I think as mafia RDK would put more effort in when he subbed in because Ekko had already brought a nuclear fuck tonne of heat and RDK actively enjoys playing as scum and instead he just transparently did nothing. I called him out yesterday cos he said he should be more engaged tomorrow and then never showed up, however he does have previous for basically not playing on weekends
 
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Can you give me your reads and thoughts about the game?
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Magic: I think he's just Town. He's giving me advice how to play which is what he tends to do as Town (esp previous game when he told me how to use my role, despite not even knowing what it was). Also his lack of claim tracking D1 tracks with his Town play. Probably my strongest Town read now.
CP: Still leaning Town on him. Though his reads list comment previous day was whack fr. He posted his most recent reads list hours ago from when I asked and I asked for his current reads which should have told him that I was asking about if anything changed. Else he doesn't look bad from this day phase either and he had multiple opportunities by now to jump on me and didn't which I think looks good.
Nibel: Was sus of him at first, but his EoD2 made me soften up on him because he was headstrong which I liked. Scum Nibel is more timid.
You: I think you look fine for now and I like you not just buddying me or trying to de escalate. Instead you stood your ground. Reminds me of the times we used to clash a lot in the past.

This is my Town core for now. Maybe add Lind for his comment, but I hate him not giving a read on me and just putting me in null.
 
Magic said:
@Tempest @Poyser might have missed it but what are your reads on one another.
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He’s in my poe. We were quite similar on reads up until now but I don’t really like the Rugrat push tbh. I also didn’t really like his shade on me for “static” reads which isn’t even true and also just a lazy accusation. I have him as most likely to be town out of my poe but I don’t really trust him
 
Magic said:
Poyser you've barely sussed or suspected me. Want to explain why?
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Man I literally posted my reads list a couple pages back. Also you’re full of shit, I suspected you a fair bit on D1. I was the one that called you out for voting gad over gram when you seemed to have more on gram and I was also the proprietor of the theory of you and lethal being teammates.

Your play yesterday struck me as town though because I’m not really sure why you would 180 on Gad after his claim and AtE if you were scum there and it looked pretty genuine from my pov esp as you were actively trying to talk me into voting reloaded instead so I don’t think it was for show. I’m not 100% confident in it tho
 
Flower said:
Magic: I think he's just Town. He's giving me advice how to play which is what he tends to do as Town (esp previous game when he told me how to use my role, despite not even knowing what it was). Also his lack of claim tracking D1 tracks with his Town play. Probably my strongest Town read now.
CP: Still leaning Town on him. Though his reads list comment previous day was whack fr. He posted his most recent reads list hours ago from when I asked and I asked for his current reads which should have told him that I was asking about if anything changed. Else he doesn't look bad from this day phase either and he had multiple opportunities by now to jump on me and didn't which I think looks good.
Nibel: Was sus of him at first, but his EoD2 made me soften up on him because he was headstrong which I liked. Scum Nibel is more timid.
You: I think you look fine for now and I like you not just buddying me or trying to de escalate. Instead you stood your ground. Reminds me of the times we used to clash a lot in the past.

This is my Town core for now. Maybe add Lind for his comment, but I hate him not giving a read on me and just putting me in null.
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Why would Lind be in there anyway? I don’t remember you even mentioning him
 
Flower said:
Magic: I think he's just Town. He's giving me advice how to play which is what he tends to do as Town (esp previous game when he told me how to use my role, despite not even knowing what it was). Also his lack of claim tracking D1 tracks with his Town play. Probably my strongest Town read now.
CP: Still leaning Town on him. Though his reads list comment previous day was whack fr. He posted his most recent reads list hours ago from when I asked and I asked for his current reads which should have told him that I was asking about if anything changed. Else he doesn't look bad from this day phase either and he had multiple opportunities by now to jump on me and didn't which I think looks good.
Nibel: Was sus of him at first, but his EoD2 made me soften up on him because he was headstrong which I liked. Scum Nibel is more timid.
You: I think you look fine for now and I like you not just buddying me or trying to de escalate. Instead you stood your ground. Reminds me of the times we used to clash a lot in the past.

This is my Town core for now. Maybe add Lind for his comment, but I hate him not giving a read on me and just putting me in null.
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Okay so what was your solve yesterday and what is your solve today.
 
Lindltaylor said:
My issue with Reloaded’s claim is this:
  • Nobody claimed infected or anything this day.
  • If he’s scum needing to claim something, it’d be much better to hide that part of his claim because of point 1.
  • In fact, if his entire claim is fake, why even have diseases as a part of his fake claim? If it’s a fake claim, then we can conversely assume that there are no diseases in this game at all. So his claim gets less verifiable as the game progresses making no sense for that to be his fake claim because he will never be believed if he was forced to claim later on.
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This is Lind’s sole reason for reading reloaded town btw, and it’s the complete opposite of what everybody else thinks of the claim. Cp even countered the points here, and yet Lind didn’t re-evaluate anything and cp just dropped it

Lindltaylor said:
Why is nobody interested in Rugrat here? There’s resistance there I believe. In fact, wouldn’t even mind Yoho here. Hasn’t done jack and contributed less than the top 3.

Can we CFD anyone else other than those 3 at this point? Rugrat or Yoho?
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Also all of his scum reads are just people for “not contributing” which is lazy and not even scum indicative. Theres no real thought process here. Well except his scum read on me but I actually have no idea why he scum reads me. I’m sure the fact I’ve been pushing him has nothing to do with it tho. I do notice he didn’t seem to be interested in me yesterday, when I wasn’t pushing him

Lindltaylor said:
Frankly, I’m coming along to the idea that both Gad and Nibel could be town.
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Also this quote came not long before he decided he wanted to vote Nibel over both gad and reloaded.

The lad don’t track. Can we get more votes please
 
Poyser said:
Not that I disagree he hasn’t done much, but do you think he goes out of his way to go after both magic and gram on D1? And not just a little dig either, he was trying to actually piss gram off for real lol. That’s why I have him more likely to be town, because it doesn’t seem like a good tactic
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Tempest said:
Grams been on his case a lot in the last few games so could've been a preemptive strike. Hasn't done anything since then in any case. He can get some pressure fr
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Poyser said:
Eh it doesn’t really seem like a thought process he’d have tho. It wasn’t even massively game related lol he made it personal saying he had a shit attitude and shit like that
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Poyser said:
I’m not really sure why him going after gram and magic doesn’t hold any weight when compared to what it is you actually sus him for, which isn’t doing much. Something he does as town fairly often

What do you think of Lind?
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Do you mean this? Didn't he go after Gram and Magic in Xmas, too, as the Serial Killer no less?
 
Flower said:
Do you mean this? Didn't he go after Gram and Magic in Xmas, too, as the Serial Killer no less?
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Not that I recall but he may have done later in the game when he had to. It’s not really the same as going out of his way to piss them off early on D1

If you wanna go and check tho then that would be grand!
 
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