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[Magic]

so this is the TMI thing magic was talking about I guess but immediately after that he goes on to hard read bachi scum who we know was town









this vibes pretty genuine so far? not sure why tweet would TMI town read gad and then immediately go all in on scum reading bachi? fr

He has struggled to town read gad but he scum read him and then kept asking me to sell him on it. Then he popped in at eod, didn't really change his vote anywhere that helped and left again.

Vs last game he town scum aurelian and then wanted him dead even when he thought he was town due to usage.

 

[RDK]

maybe. RDK is usually a more keyed in as scum than this. he's just like "uhhh cp somehow knew reloaded was VT, let's flip him" which feels lazy as fuck for scum RDK lol like does he think we're teamed or that I would rolecop reloaded? fr

its not lazy

you have tmi on him

 

[Arne Slot]

Is it weird I wanna read Gad town for this remark alone lmao

Kind of
Why?

Why do you like it then lol? He’s not only scum reading melkot for the exact same reason you town read him, but he’s scum reading melkor for doing exactly what he said tweet should be doing

ree why are quotes dropping

so tweet town reads gad again and gets some pushback from poyser

Vote Lind

On reflection, agree with poysers take. I think ratchet made a point that I quite liked about him only giving scum reads (at that point in time) too

He's made more proddy and antagonistic remarks towards several other people as well, IIRC he was much the same last game as town

Gad town imotbh

Not to rain on your parade but I don't think this is accurate. I think what Lind is saying is, Melkor is doing this thing I think Tweet is scum for not doing, so I should have Melkor as towny, but there's further reasons in Melkors play that makes me think he's scum too.

Tbh tho if he thinks that, he should probably consider whether it's terribly likely that me and Melkor are co-scum ganging up on someone d1

Hmm yeah Ratchet did make that point

Thoughts on Nibel saying he's misrepresenting the order of events that took place, presumably in order to fabricate that scum read on Nibel?

Gotta be honest, I don't think Lind is the way to go here, his thoughts strike me as genuine

despite pointing out some issues with lind's reads tweet doesn't want to vote him and begins sussing gram for pushing there

Speaking of which, my read on Bachi is wavering a bit. The tone is somewhere in the middle of where it was and where I think it should be, but then I remember that his entrance made no sense whatsoever and looked purely for show. Think I'm still happy at least getting a claim there.

backs off a bit from the bachi scum read but still wants his claim (doesn't push any more for it tho, pivots to gram)

Gram could also take some scrutiny, particularly if Lind happens to flip town down the line

@Magic quit stalling and vote Gram

I just wanna see if he's willing to put his money where his mouth is. If he thinks you're scum, he should really wanna go for you over someone like Gad

seems to be more about gauging how serious magic is about pushing gram? idk was town reading tweet at the start of the iso but I'm pretty confused by what he's doing here with lind/gram/magic. I also sadly don't think I can rule out him being scum with poyser based on their interaction around gad as could've easily been distancing fr fr

 

[Arne Slot]

its not lazy

you have tmi on him

I feel so insulted by you this game. you think I faked a pr, killed gram n1, and scum slipped

like seriously bro wtf fr fr

 

[Lindltaylor]

Tempest just looks town for me. Honestly, I can get where he's coming from.

@Poyser why not vote Nibel out if you're not voting me? You're actively scum reading him anyway. Why Tempest in particular?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Rigged af if that's the scum team.

Comments like this are not really helpful.

 

[Arne Slot]

Magic what's the difference between Gad this game and Gad last game? Asking for a friend

Huh? You were the one leading the push on him last game and had a pretty good grasp of what his game amounted to that time. It should be really simple for you in particular to check out his play so far and compare that to what you noticed him do last game.

Well I for one think he's very similar to last game where you were just about the only one who correctly had him as town, so if you don't have him town this time, and push him over your other scum read which is Gram of all people, that doesn't sit right with me

all right this is starting to feel a bit like TMI lol, he's preflipping gad and using it to sus magic and gram

I think you need to think this through a bit more tbh

Like, he got mislynched last game, but the thing that drove said mislynch was that he didn’t react to pressure well

There’s nothing in his play so far that I have anything approaching an opinion on, do you?

Disappointingly redundant from you tbh

gram claps back

Hmm yeah alright that is true, my bad

tweet relents and slinks away fr fr

 

[Arne Slot]

Fine, lemme give you the benefit of the doubt and see what you're cooking then

same with magic fr

 

[RDK]

I feel so insulted by you this game. you think I faked a pr, killed gram n1, and scum slipped

like seriously bro wtf fr fr

i was initially defending you regarding the pr thing

 

[Arne Slot]

you should vote gad.

While I am interested in seeing you cook, Gram has reminded me of how much of a menace to himself Gad can be when forced to defend himself, sooooo nah

won't vote gad

Since RDK isn't exactly doing much, we'll likely have to judge him on the flips of the people he voted or didn't vote down the line

Can we try and get something done please, day already got extended and we still haven't accomplished anything

Here I'll help with Gad or something

vote lynch Gad

votes gad???

I'm gonna repeat that I think Reloaded is town here, the one time I saw him as scum he did nothing but fluff

this feels like TMI, reloaded had done nothing except put names in random colors that he couldn't explain

I think Gram also wasn't a big fan of Fangs was he?

gram wasn't a big fan of tweet.

Far as Gad goes, I still think he's town so if @Magic is serious about lynching Gad then he better come up with that reasoning he keeps hiding from me

So your argument is I'm good you're shit follow or stfu

Sold af tbh

acts like his town read on gad has never wavered but literally voted him at the end of the previous phase

Or tweet (and poyser) are simply good guying gad as the great resistance on a guy one has no experience with and one can't read well is strange. Won't even budge for a claim. Wanna look good expecting me to force push it through.

I literally voted to support your wagon yesterday because I thought maybe you cookin somethin I ain't smellin but today you're still expecting to follow us blindly instead of presenting your case or ykno, telling me, who's insisting Gad looks exactly like last game where he was TOWN, where I'm wrong and why he's scum. This should be really really simple from your perspective so why is "you suck, follow me" all you have for me?

when did tweet act like he thought magic was cooking anything? he was adamant gad was town for all of except one post where he voted him for no apparent reason

I'm pondering whether to follow Magic or go after people Gram wasn't fond of

yeah idk wtf tweet is doing. this all feels and smells terrible. fr

 

[Lindltaylor]

1. Nibel
2. Magic
3. Lord Melkor
5. Tweet
9. Aurelian
10. LindLTaylor
11. Poyser
12. Mr. Reloaded
13. Fuji
14. Yoho
15. Ratchet Flower
17. Emil RDK
18. Rugrat

A Poyser scum flip would really help things as that'd put Nibel and Lind firmly in the town column leaving exactly 5 nulls left which means only one of them is going to be town. I feel like magic and tweet are exclusive so that'd check out. need to do some isos fr fr

You can put Fuji as town. I'm having a strong gut feeling there.

 

[Arne Slot]

He has struggled to town read gad but he scum read him and then kept asking me to sell him on it. Then he popped in at eod, didn't really change his vote anywhere that helped and left again.

Vs last game he town scum aurelian and then wanted him dead even when he thought he was town due to usage.

can you fix your nouns good god this post is a mess

 

[Flower]

Magic, can you like, comment on any of this?

 

[Arne Slot]

Did you read the end of the phase though? He actually 180d Gad based on his reaction and was then pushing for Reloaded to be lynched instead

Yeah and conveniently it happened when it was too late to matter and he ended up back on Gad in order to avoid nolynching anyway so his 180 is whatever to me.

He should have known earlier that Gad was town, instead he kept gaslighting us that he's the GOAT and backs himself and nobody else. He kept going back to last game specifically where Gram and I had a faulty POE which he kept pointing out, but he doesn't mention that his solve wasn't correct either. He could have also gone back to a few games back, since he complimented me a few times on how good my solves were lately, but he looked at last game and nothing else.

He did the same thing when it came to Gad, he kept insisting that Gad was different from last game but telling us how he was different was pulling teeth. I for one insisted Gad was like last game but Magic just went nope he isn't, shut up you're bad, follow me. Then when Gad himself asked Magic how he was the same, Magic moved the goalposts and extended his argument to the past gameS and still couldn't make it convincing.

So yeah in summary the entire push strikes me as hella slimy and I don't wanna lose to that if Magic is scum.

okay so tweet did respond to poyser's reason for thinking magic is town.

Ok, I dont hate this. I dont agree mostly because I dont see why he would bother 180ing at all at that point when hes already put much stock into it. I don't think it makes much sense. I dont mind this coming from you though.

You're not going to get magic lynched today though, you're the only vote and there's like 10 hours left lol. Do you have any thoughts on anybody else? And do you have any thoughts on CP specifically?

and here's where poyser seems to support tweet's reasoning for why magic is scum but acknowledges he can't get magic lynched today. so what does he do? he goes for me. sus fr

 

[Arne Slot]

that said that interaction doesn't feel like distancing from poyser/tweet fr

 

[Arne Slot]

I'm not sure why poyser thinks he couldn't get magic lynched though if tweet wants him lynched. it's not like everyone ITT is town reading magic? why not even try if he agrees with tweet's reasoning re: magic? is he worried about having to convince me and that's why he tries to get me out first? or is he protecting a scummate? hmmmm fr fr

 

[Flower]

@Tempest what I don't get tho is, you also listed a Poyser/Magic T/T scenario. How likely do you think that is?

 

[Arne Slot]

@Tempest what I don't get tho is, you also listed a Poyser/Magic T/T scenario. How likely do you think that is?

why would I not consider that scenario? we have not lynched any scum fr

 

[Arne Slot]

I do think it's extremely unlikely magic/poyser/tweet are ALL town though. Starting to think tweet is exclusive to both of them though. poyser/magic can definitely go together. magic/tweet do not. I'm not so sure poyser/tweet go together either anymore. fr

 

[Flower]

why would I not consider that scenario? we have not lynched any scum fr

Yes, but we likely lose after 2 mislynches. That's what I'm worried about. If both are Town and you wanna flip both, that could cost us the game.