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Xhominid The Apex

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Tsukishima (Bleach) VS Narutoverse

How far would he get? He gets general knowledge on the verse and 3 days to prep
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Holy shit, this topic is a fucking mess :heston

I haven't seen people somehow miss how Book Of The End works, treat it as if it's some basic ass Genjutsu(Spoilers, it's not unlike Kyoka Suigetsu) and act like Tsukishima cannot insert himself in place of people... when Kubo explicitly stated he DID(Kubo outright states that Tsukishima was Orihime's BROTHER in her mind, Chad's Abuelo in his and he replaced one of Ichigo's relatives for his sisters).
He even states it to Byakuya that he replaced his mentor(who would either be his grandpa or Yourichi) when Byakuya kills him.

Like Tsukishima isn't soloing the Narutoverse because he's nowhere near that strong but good lord do people need to do this thing called reading.
 
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LB6 characters have their own feats and statements about their power, no one said LB6 characters scale to or above characters like Zeus because the story doesn't treat them as equal or superior to Zeus, even Morgan. Only her full power Rhongomyniad should be comparable or above due to being a planetary class weapon that can be a threat for ORT, and was also about to nuke Olympus in LB5.

As for speed, it's inconsistent in the verse. Either you use the lower, mid or higher end feats and scaling, because the speed difference between Servants, even with the nanomachines isn't big. Mash without nanomachines wouldn't really be slower.
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BBhoteppu forget that Cerunnos' gravity in section 26 is equal to U-Olga's pseudo black hole, and according to the story itself, she is stronger than Zeus. Wodime also stated three times (LB 5,2 section 24 , Beginning of Lostbelt 5,2 and LB6 section 17) LB6 is dangerous for PHH and the Foreign God.

Regarding speed, it's been stated many times across the Fate franchise that they can move at the speed of light, or even faster than light.
FGO is connected to almost fate franchise and that mean there should be cross-scaling.
 
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Triple Accel 555 said:
BBhoteppu forget that Cerunnos' gravity in section 26 is equal to U-Olga's pseudo black hole, and according to the story itself, she is stronger than Zeus. Wodime also stated three times (LB 5,2 section 24 , Beginning of Lostbelt 5,2 and LB6 section 17) LB6 is dangerous for PHH and the Foreign God.
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It's less BBhoteppu forgot and BBhoteppu doing the same shit GaRbS is doing in the WorstGen thread:
Trying to placate to the idiotic masses while not actually giving the real credible reasons to use for the argument itself. They don't want to use statements from the game because of some extremely bullshit reasoning that has no basis to be ignored in debates but at the same time, they are glad to use any statements that fit their confirmation bias even if that makes little sense at all.

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Regarding speed, it's been stated many times across the Fate franchise that they can move at the speed of light, or even faster than light.
FGO is connected to almost fate franchise and that mean there should be cross-scaling.
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Hell, it's been stated that way since F/SN but again, confirmation bias to the rescue.
It's ironic because what they use for that doesn't even work because Supersonic and Mach are just speeds of measurement and "Faster Than Sound" is no different whatsoever.
Like I said before, it's a lack of reading comprehension because the funniest shit is that a tired and battered Ritsuka literally ran 2 Kilometers before Beryl can catch Mash offguard:
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And the worst thing is that it definitely wasn't longer than a minute as Beryl attacks her right as Barghest dies and the Knights are gone and Ritsuka straight up leaves the Shadow Border at the same timeframe. 2 Kilometers is 2000 meters and remember how fast the typical human can only clear 100 meters at full condition...
Normal Human my fucking ass.
 
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Tsukishima (Bleach) VS Narutoverse

How far would he get? He gets general knowledge on the verse and 3 days to prep
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Holy shit, this topic is a fucking mess :heston

I haven't seen people somehow miss how Book Of The End works, treat it as if it's some basic ass Genjutsu(Spoilers, it's not unlike Kyoka Suigetsu) and act like Tsukishima cannot insert himself in place of people... when Kubo explicitly stated he DID(Kubo outright states that Tsukishima was Orihime's BROTHER in her mind, Chad's Abuelo in his and he replaced one of Ichigo's relatives for his sisters).
He even states it to Byakuya that he replaced his mentor(who would either be his grandpa or Yourichi) when Byakuya kills him.

Like Tsukishima isn't soloing the Narutoverse because he's nowhere near that strong but good lord do people need to do this thing called reading.
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Where did Kubo say he replaced Ichigo's relative by the way? This is the first I've heard of it.
 
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It's more talking about how Tsukishima's Book of The End works as in truth, while he can insert himself into people's memories, the best way to make it easy for himself is to replace someone else in their memories and use that as a basis and further expand from there.
While we do see him helping against Rukia and Aizen, he also replaced Orihime's brother in her memories and replaced Chad's Grandfather in his(This is also when Tsukishima started explicitly fucking with those memories they nearly had a mind break).

So in truth, it's not an actual Genjutsu or any of that sort as Tsukishima explains before he repairs Ichigo's Bankai to be healed he actually creates a whole ass branch of time as to him, those events are genuinely real as much as they are to everyone else he infects. It's why me and Adamant explicitly state Book of The End is the strongest Bleach ability period, even above the wanked Almighty.
 
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Accelerator vs Makima

Speed equalized Starting distance is 20 meters Accel in his post awakening key, with access to black and white wings Starts in base. Accelerator: Makima:
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Nuking japan is very out of character of him even if he doesn't care much about others, he is not gonna a kill a country containing his love ones and students (his the current board chairman is AC.)

Accelerator cant interact something that is intangible
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[R1M5] Venefica's Tier 7 Tourney: Asuna Kamakura vs Accelerator

Original Tourney Thread Tourney Bracket Votes Character Key Votes Asuna Kamakura Adventurers Tournament Arc 0 Accelerator Post-Headshot 0 Inconclusive 0 This is the fifth match of the VeneficaAuthor Tier 7-A/High 7-A tourney! It's Asuna Kamakura from Bakuhatsu: Starting Live Over...
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Accelerator's profile is so bad he's getting put up against city level niggas
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It messes with space-time... like normal gravity, you mean? :giogio
 
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:kobe How is this a topic? Why is it a topic? Frieren would get murdered by everyone but Voldemort who she murders but of course:
Frieren 360 no-scopes all of them at once. Sauron and Voldermort won't technically be killed by it but they would be otherwise incapaciatated. As far as their physical bodies go, they're all incredibly unremarkable, even Sauron.

Sauron's power is largely subtle manipulation and corruption of purpose, unless he's stomping mortals in his physical form and even then he's no Tulkas.

Palpatine, I don't even know what Palpatine is going to do when the penny drops, he's a master at sword fighting and force lightning, neither of which are going to stop Frieren.

Voldemort is vaporised like the joke he is.

Speed equalized it's the same except Voldemort and Palpatine get to shoot before they die again.
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Someone brings up the Silmarillion

Sauron: please quantify that into any form of relevancy. I have read the Silmarillion.

Palpatine: is that how he beat Mace Windu? At no point is it within character for Palpatine to pull off a force storm at the drop of a penny against a seemingly human target, meanwhile it is 100% within character for Frieren to style on everyone in the room with a disco ball of rock-boring lasers.
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...How do you need to quantify this?

Sauron in his prime was a basically angel of creation, a greater Maiar, beings who were capable of shattering mountains, and lifting archipelagos.
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Even if you want to use the "lowest interpretation" of Mountains to prove that point(Which is retarded in and of itself and further shows the dishonesty SB loves brewing), you cannot downplay being able to lift archipelagos...

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Definition of ARCHIPELAGO

an expanse of water with many scattered islands; a group of islands; something resembling an archipelago; especially : a group or scattering of similar things… See the full definition
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: an expanse of water with many scattered islands
: a group of islands
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To put it simply, look at the world map of Chrono Cross:
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THAT is an Archipelago(The game itself literally calls it El Nido ARCHIPELAGO)
EDIT: The worst part is you don't even need to use Chrono Cross because real life Archipelagos are just as big, just as wide and just as dense meaning that it's even dumber to pretend you can't figure it out.
 
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I like how you are using this feat when it failed to kill anyone directly. It was literally what amounted to a magical EMP. Which is great for the situation it was used, but not particularly useful again someone shooting him with laser beams from within the same room.
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I FULLY remember Palpatine's Force Storm actually killed quite a number of Pilots...



Just because it didn't kill the named characters didn't mean nobody died(Especially in one scene where we literally see people getting fried inside of their ship) especially considering Frieren would have to eat ALL OF THAT... but again, this would have to be where SB would understand how this shit works... which they don't, adamantly refuse to and bitch at you if you dare try.

Like, no offense, but the idea that Palpatine has this overwhelming power against people is not really indicated anywhere. He can do some crazy shit, but that is all on the macro level and never against an individual person.
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...This is pure fanfiction debating again, this is ALL Spacebattles is literally capable of. Just because there is the absence of evidence, it does not mean the evidence of absence! Especially when we see him use it AGAINST REY PALPATINE, THE ONE PERSON!


On the micro level the most impressive thing he has done is his force lightning in RoS (outside of the EU which I am sure he has more impressive feats in), which was being resisted by a singular lightsaber.
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So we are just going to ignore how and why Mace Windu was able to resist Force Lightning in general right? Because it very clearly isn't JUST the Lightsaber if we actually read how he was able to do it(Also ignore that Yoda was able to fend them off with The Force but hey, that would give Frieren a chance to lose, can't have that).

Ray only needed help from the force and a second lightsaber to deflect it back at him.
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Let's ignore that she had help from every known Jedi in existence which would include LUKE, LEIA AND ANAKIN FUCKING SKYWALKER!(Let's also ignore Palpatine is also aided by every Sith in existence but that wouldn't be fair either).

Every other feat of his force lightning is dangerous in that it would kill the person being subjected to it before long, but its not an instant kill move by any means, nor is it impossible to defend against.
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Couldn't be that Force Lightning is able to fuck up your soul, Palpatine explicitly prolongs it because that's the grip of the Dark Side on him and the fact that we have seen Starkiller needs an amp with Force Lightning to cripple Vader yet Palpatine did that all on his own in RoTJ(Which was weaker than he is in RoS...), ignore all of the canonical reasons to pretend Frieren can tank Force Lightning to kill Palpatine first when no one else could do anything against it once it hits them.
 
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Someone brings up Palpatine can Force Choke Frieren to death

Un-fucking-ironically:


Frieren is massively more durable than anyone that's worked on/can use magic to protect her neck/can use magic freely while hanging suspended from her neck. Pick whichever you prefer.
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If someone EVER tells you Spacebattles has not been made fun of enough, show this post, show this post got likes and then continue mocking the shit out of the site and the people on it.
There is no way in fucking hell you believe the Force Choke is literally the equivalent of a Human snapping someone's neck, there is no fucking way you can type this shit out and not be laughed out anywhere else!
 
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