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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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. :mjlol aizen should prepare a coffin for himself. @Adamant soul

I like how there’s that one guy arguing Sephiroth’s best feat is JUST his Supernovae

As if Sephiroth making the Sun go Supernovae isn’t straight up overkill against a verse that gets 95% solo’d by just Gremmy’s meteor

And yes. Same dude arguing for non-existent Universe level Aizen

:hestonpls
 

Jesus christ this is like talking to a baby.
 
Had my computer checked in for 4 days, comes back and checks WorstGen
Goddamn, if I wasn't looking for something to vent on, I'm glad I did...


Stop talking nonsense and post actual evidence.

"I won't accept what you gave me as evidence, give me actual evidence"
This was after I gave him extremely obvious evidence why Nikola Tesla would be on par with Iskandar's Bulls if not slightly better than Iskandar's bulls due to being the main catalyst to hold off the 28 Demon God Pillars at once...

The irony is that you know damn well he downplays Iskandar something fierce too making this effectively pointless from his perspective.

I don't have to prove a negative.

"I don't have to prove a negative showing why your point is wrong despite you bringing in a literal video showing why I'm wrong"

Jesus Fucking Christ, this is supposed to be one of the "better Spacebattles debaters" and someone who constantly acts like he's better than me... somehow not realizing that yes, you have to post a reason to prove a negative...
Like even fucking Redditors, VSB'ers and Quora users understand this shit.

Post proof that Broken Phantasm Caladbolg II equals its original's true name release.

And my post is not even a defense at all, I'm simply asking you to post actual evidence for your claims.

You have no proof that the Broken Phantasm version of Caladbolg II matches the original.

These might as well be the same thing and funny enough, I don't need much evidence to prove it because the game did it itself:

Fate/complete material III p128 said:
User: Archer
Caladbolg is the demonic sword wielded by the Irish hero Fergus mac Róich in Celtic mythology. The version that Archer projects has been altered to improve its function as an arrow.
In the legends, Fergus mac Róich was the former king of Ulster and foster-father of the hero Cú Chulainn. However, he was tricked out of his kingship, and later allied with Connacht, an enemy of Ulster. During the decisive battle between Connacht and Ulster, Fergus was able to corner the enemy king who had betrayed him, but was prevented from killing him. It is said that he redirected his rage at this turn of events upon three hills, using Caladbolg to blast their tops clean off.
Cú Chulainn is affected by a geis that makes it his duty to be defeated once by the sword so long as the wielder is Ulster-born. For that reason, it could be said to be his natural enemy.
Also, there is a theory that the Caladbolg from Celtic mythology is the same sword as the Caledfwlch from Welsh mythology, making it a prototype of Excalibur.

This is from Archer's use of Caladbolg II, by the way, a full on comparison to the original Caladbolg and even in the materials, all that's stated is that Archer modified it to for Archery use, nothing about it losing anymore power than it being degraded from a typical Projection use barring Broken Phantasm(which I brought in it's use from Shirou vs. Saber Alter).

Again, really showing that it's literally just a "No You" argument.

No, it's not. Your delusional interpretations don't count as proof.

My "delusional interpretations":

Q: Who'd win if the Servants and the 27 Ancestors fought each other? Also, who'd win in a fight between Bazett, a renowned powerhouse of the Association, and Ciel, top class in even the Association?

A:
Depends on compatibility, but basically Servants will have the slightly higher advantage. With Saber, Lancer, and Archer classes, we ought to be able to relax and see decent fights. In particular, Saber has THAT sort of Noble Phantasms so against guys like the 27 Ancestors that overwhelm by material quantity and alienness, she'd be REALLY tough.
....Well, there are also some of those tough Ancestors that can withstand a direct hit from Excalibur-class attacks, but against those guys that just (emphasis on just; other stats don't match up) have wickedly high HP, Lancer-aniki'd be pretty tough.

And the Kagetsu Tohya story Dawn, written by the author of Overlord, has 30% Arcueid's full powered Marble Phantasm fail to do fuck all to Maiko Yamase (basically all that remains of Nrvnqsr Chaos from Tsukihime after Shiki killed his ass). Additionally, Arcueid makes mention that upon approaching True Chaos (aka, the real Chaos Tide/Primordial Sea/Grail Mud) that it becomes a world in and of itself, that power to destroy it would be sufficient to destroy the world.

Me bringing in simple ass evidence which shows Nasu very clearly is using Fabro Rowan against Excalibur(And Excalibur-Class attacks) and that Fabro's shit is not on par with the true Primordial Sea...

Remember, this is the guy who went on a temper tantrum here that was literally plucking shit that I said off the cuff years ago and/or had a brain fart without thinking to try and ruin any knowledge I have of the Nasuverse for anyone who sees this(The evidence isn't here because @Masterblack06 immediately deleted it from existence, it was so bad :diolaugh ) but let's not forget that this is the same guy who believes you don't need to prove a negative, you can just say it fine.

I'm not gonna to another forum to look for proof. do your own job yourself.

Why even be a fucking debater then?! What the fuck type of answer is this?! No wonder Spacebattles is regarded as a joke when doing research is somehow a fucking problem?!
 

Holy shit, this topic is a fucking mess :heston

I haven't seen people somehow miss how Book Of The End works, treat it as if it's some basic ass Genjutsu(Spoilers, it's not unlike Kyoka Suigetsu) and act like Tsukishima cannot insert himself in place of people... when Kubo explicitly stated he DID(Kubo outright states that Tsukishima was Orihime's BROTHER in her mind, Chad's Abuelo in his and he replaced one of Ichigo's relatives for his sisters).
He even states it to Byakuya that he replaced his mentor(who would either be his grandpa or Yourichi) when Byakuya kills him.

Like Tsukishima isn't soloing the Narutoverse because he's nowhere near that strong but good lord do people need to do this thing called reading.
 
LB6 characters have their own feats and statements about their power, no one said LB6 characters scale to or above characters like Zeus because the story doesn't treat them as equal or superior to Zeus, even Morgan. Only her full power Rhongomyniad should be comparable or above due to being a planetary class weapon that can be a threat for ORT, and was also about to nuke Olympus in LB5.

As for speed, it's inconsistent in the verse. Either you use the lower, mid or higher end feats and scaling, because the speed difference between Servants, even with the nanomachines isn't big. Mash without nanomachines wouldn't really be slower.
BBhoteppu forget that Cerunnos' gravity in section 26 is equal to U-Olga's pseudo black hole, and according to the story itself, she is stronger than Zeus. Wodime also stated three times (LB 5,2 section 24 , Beginning of Lostbelt 5,2 and LB6 section 17) LB6 is dangerous for PHH and the Foreign God.

Regarding speed, it's been stated many times across the Fate franchise that they can move at the speed of light, or even faster than light.
FGO is connected to almost fate franchise and that mean there should be cross-scaling.
 
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BBhoteppu forget that Cerunnos' gravity in section 26 is equal to U-Olga's pseudo black hole, and according to the story itself, she is stronger than Zeus. Wodime also stated three times (LB 5,2 section 24 , Beginning of Lostbelt 5,2 and LB6 section 17) LB6 is dangerous for PHH and the Foreign God.

It's less BBhoteppu forgot and BBhoteppu doing the same shit GaRbS is doing in the WorstGen thread:
Trying to placate to the idiotic masses while not actually giving the real credible reasons to use for the argument itself. They don't want to use statements from the game because of some extremely bullshit reasoning that has no basis to be ignored in debates but at the same time, they are glad to use any statements that fit their confirmation bias even if that makes little sense at all.

Regarding speed, it's been stated many times across the Fate franchise that they can move at the speed of light, or even faster than light.
FGO is connected to almost fate franchise and that mean there should be cross-scaling.

Hell, it's been stated that way since F/SN but again, confirmation bias to the rescue.
It's ironic because what they use for that doesn't even work because Supersonic and Mach are just speeds of measurement and "Faster Than Sound" is no different whatsoever.
Like I said before, it's a lack of reading comprehension because the funniest shit is that a tired and battered Ritsuka literally ran 2 Kilometers before Beryl can catch Mash offguard:
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And the worst thing is that it definitely wasn't longer than a minute as Beryl attacks her right as Barghest dies and the Knights are gone and Ritsuka straight up leaves the Shadow Border at the same timeframe. 2 Kilometers is 2000 meters and remember how fast the typical human can only clear 100 meters at full condition...
Normal Human my fucking ass.
 
the thread details aren't even complete

nigga isn't even trying and shit
 

Holy shit, this topic is a fucking mess :heston

I haven't seen people somehow miss how Book Of The End works, treat it as if it's some basic ass Genjutsu(Spoilers, it's not unlike Kyoka Suigetsu) and act like Tsukishima cannot insert himself in place of people... when Kubo explicitly stated he DID(Kubo outright states that Tsukishima was Orihime's BROTHER in her mind, Chad's Abuelo in his and he replaced one of Ichigo's relatives for his sisters).
He even states it to Byakuya that he replaced his mentor(who would either be his grandpa or Yourichi) when Byakuya kills him.

Like Tsukishima isn't soloing the Narutoverse because he's nowhere near that strong but good lord do people need to do this thing called reading.
Where did Kubo say he replaced Ichigo's relative by the way? This is the first I've heard of it.
 
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