Game Ranked Tower of God Mafia Thread

[Magic]

This is absolute LHF trite

ya but melkor looks bad in general to people, as gad pointed out himself. i dont really lean one way or another on him myself, but he often states things that look scummy.

what do you think of gad?

 

[Luka]

which misunderstandings do you think could easily be grounds for a case down the line? youre not as familiar to me as ratchet is. im not one to be unclear of my stances/reads on players. if i dont think youre scum no one is going to go back and pick up some obsecure thing to state that i thought you were somehow being scummy.

he's nitpicking to attack me. he just stated that himself. he's also misrepresenting the conversation unless you would prefer to deny that you felt he was all in all defending you/clearing up misunderstandings of yourself.

FTR, Either Ratchet is town and presumably has a genuine read on Mango, or Ratchet is TMIing Mango. I don't think the interactions are w/w between the two, specifically Mango just sitting back and letting Ratchet defend him, while at the same time saying it blatnetly in thread that he thought Ratchet was his lawyer. Either way Mango is probably just town here.

 

[Luka]

I don't clear Ratchet based of him clearing me BTW, he could just as well do this as scum where he is banking on my support.

Pretty sure he's done this plenty before.

While he usually see right through me, I find it difficult to do in return.

Real quick, you seem to think that Ratchet is town from the later pages. What changed from this post as opposed to later, in which you openly said you think Ratchet is town?

 

[MangoSenpai]

which misunderstandings do you think could easily be grounds for a case down the line? youre not as familiar to me as ratchet is. im not one to be unclear of my stances/reads on players. if i dont think youre scum no one is going to go back and pick up some obsecure thing to state that i thought you were somehow being scummy.

he's nitpicking to attack me. he just stated that himself. he's also misrepresenting the conversation unless you would prefer to deny that you felt he was all in all defending you/clearing up misunderstandings of yourself.

No, I find myself agreeing with Ratchet's presented PoV here.

I don't think he's defending me to defend me, but rather he is pointing out the flaw of your basis for this discussion - that you have chosen to take an arguably disingenious angle to push a discussion - at least to give you benefit of the doubt that what you're doing here is not malicious.

 

[Lord Melkor]

So apparently we've run into a semantics problem

@Lord Melkor clear what your intent up was

reading ratchets posts on this is like eating chalk while doing whippets

Is this a wrongful interpretation of what you were originally saying?

Not sure what you are asking me. Mine vote on Luka did not have anything to do with any buddying.

 

[Dr. Watson]

And what about it don't you like?
(Also, the one person wagon. Why are you so quick to instantly say you hate the wagon?)

Because I don't like these subtle shades you're throwing so early when Mel is usually a self-resolving slot and him being auto scum read by the majority of players makes him a prime lynch candidate. It's easy.

It's not that the act of what you're doing is incredibly shady (town can pull this shit to, but if I ask myself "why Mel? Why is someone going after Melkor?" it's, in my experience, usually a bad sign

You're coming across as mighty opportunistic
If it were, say, anyone else I wouldn't blink an eye (or at least not players that are not historically LHF)

One point in your favor of you actually generating content and giving dialogue, tho

Right so back to my original question
So that's one scum read
What are your other reads, 2 townie reads? 1 more scum 1, 1 town read? Name em

 

[MangoSenpai]

Real quick, you seem to think that Ratchet is town from the later pages. What changed from this post as opposed to later, in which you openly said you think Ratchet is town?

Just saying that his progression on Magic doesn't seem to be scum motivated.

I am inclined to believe it comes from a Town PoV, however as stated previously I am wary of clearing Ratchet, especially this early.
But my vibes are telling me that he doesn't operate under scum agenda - at least for the time being.

 

[Magic]

You said I was "up in arms" because I questioned what your point even was, attributing my actions to defence instead of what they were - questioning you. Has nothing to do with what Mango was saying at all.

i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.

again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.

So, do you think Ratchet is a wolf?

not sure.

Didn't you instantly vote somebody else though?
Like, why are you choosing not to vote Ratchet(Despite presumably thinking they're evil) and instead keeping a page 2 RVS vote?

i did! i have no idea who that player is but ill be interested on their arrival and thoughts after during their lunch break!

because i prefer my vote where it is. having a thunderdome with ratchet is not really a productive use of my time in a 26 player game. im not sure what his alignment is and it could lead to a mess of a day 1. it might anyway!

 

[Dr. Watson]

ya but melkor looks bad in general to people, as gad pointed out himself. i dont really lean one way or another on him myself, but he often states things that look scummy.

what do you think of gad?

No take yet. Need more from gad

Is there anything in particular I was not attuned to and missed?

 

[Magic]

FTR, Either Ratchet is town and presumably has a genuine read on Mango, or Ratchet is TMIing Mango. I don't think the interactions are w/w between the two, specifically Mango just sitting back and letting Ratchet defend him, while at the same time saying it blatnetly in thread that he thought Ratchet was his lawyer. Either way Mango is probably just town here.

i concur!

 

[Magic]

No take yet. Need more from gad

Is there anything in particular I was not attuned to and missed?

he was the first that pointed out melkor often appearing scummy to people to luka when luka was pushing melkor. it was a defense of melkor from luka.

 

[MangoSenpai]

i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.

again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.

Well, to clarify, the case revolved around me so of course Ratchet speaking up against your angle is a defense - sure

But the main point I wanted to convey was that Ratchet was able to communicate certain points I couldn't quite articulate myself.

 

[Dr. Watson]

i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.

again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.



not sure.


i did! i have no idea who that player is but ill be interested on their arrival and thoughts after during their lunch break!

because i prefer my vote where it is. having a thunderdome with ratchet is not really a productive use of my time in a 26 player game. im not sure what his alignment is and it could lead to a mess of a day 1. it might anyway!

Did you see Ruffles' reply?

 

[Dr. Watson]

he was the first that pointed out melkor often appearing scummy to people to luka when luka was pushing melkor. it was a defense of melkor from luka.

Going back

 

[Magic]

No, I find myself agreeing with Ratchet's presented PoV here.

I don't think he's defending me to defend me, but rather he is pointing out the flaw of your basis for this discussion - that you have chosen to take an arguably disingenious angle to push a discussion - at least to give you benefit of the doubt that what you're doing here is not malicious.

i can assure you there was nothing disingenious about my point and it was pretty spot on. what ratchet was doing is much more likely to be buddying than what melkor was doing as buddying.

 

[Magic]

to the extent that if ratchet is scum youre essentially already pocketed based on your own behaviour here lol.

 

[Ratchet]

i didnt attribute your actions as a defense, mango did. i specifically said i wasn't sussing him so he wouldn't think i was/that you were being his lawyer defending him. ergo i never stated you were defending him because i didnt think there was anything for you to defend him from. if anything i think youre defending yourself as, im sure you know, suggesting you could be the one buddying him would mean it's more likely that you're the one i could see as scum in this scenario and not himself.

again you're explicitly ignoring context which is pretty plain.

Firstly, your words, not Mango's:

we're back to square 1 of what i said about what appeared to be more likely to be buddying lol.

i was never accusing you yet he's up in arms over it. you think he's defending you when you were never being sussed.

You make this response from a gif Mango posted. Between that, and your screed where you unprompted tell Mango to be wary of town reading me, feel like a clear attempt to set the stage here. You don't get to say "well, I never said you were defending him, because in the post I quoted, you are clearly presenting the defence as undue. Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

Greasy!

 

[Dr. Watson]

Vote Nipples

Funny, I'm dealing with a massive shit storm

This take too spicy for Retro

No one pings me as weird just yet. Fang does seem a little more jokey this game and idr if that's town or scum tell for him

Probably town

I doubt they wrote it pre-game.

And no, idk if I'll call anyone town or scum just yet

Fang's post was the only one that I really even noticed.

I know it does but that's... just how Melkor rolls

Wtf how many posts have I just wound up not fully digesting

Actually I like this entrance I think

 

[Magic]

Firstly, your words, not Mango's:

You make this response from a gif Mango posted. Between that, and your screed where you unprompted tell Mango to be wary of town reading me, feel like a clear attempt to set the stage here. You don't get to say "well, I never said you were defending him, because in the post I quoted, you are clearly presenting the defence as undue. Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

Greasy!

should mango not be weary of town reading you?

do tell.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Just saying that his progression on Magic doesn't seem to be scum motivated.

I am inclined to believe it comes from a Town PoV, however as stated previously I am wary of clearing Ratchet, especially this early.
But my vibes are telling me that he doesn't operate under scum agenda - at least for the time being.

Not sure about Ratchet yet, wondering though what would be scum Ratchet's motivation of voting Magic instead of me, since I should be easier target.