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Ratchet

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Think I'm leaning scum for not even bothering to get tweets claim after getting so much support but there's a gay and cringe side of this too I have to address
Not getting his claim is fair, but what you and Ultra are missing is that the day is 72 hours long and there is nothing to stop me going back to Tweet. I don't need to get his claim right now. I could instead see what shakes elsewhere, and then come back to Tweet if I feel it's the best option. I know you lot don't understand patience and want to speed through days but if I'm wrong on Tweet I want to be able to see that before he claims. I look at the read Magic gave and acknowledge that the town reads he commits to tends to be accurate, so I factor that into my thinking.

I don't think you have a clue what my process is or how I think so your attempts to read me probably aren't going to be very good (irregardless of the conclusions) but one thi g that needs to be made clear for you is, me not being scum here doesn't mean I'm petty and trying to create the very situation that I complain about so I can say I was justified in said position. I don't care what you, or anyone else here, thinks about how justified I am in the complaints I had. My sole concern is getting the right answers. I believe this to be the best way to achieve that. The sooner that you accept that my thought processes are not governed by a concern for how the rest of you lot perceive them, the better time you will have with parsing them correctly.
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
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in any case i caught up with thread fully and this is where i am rn. bout to bounce

town
ratchet
bachi
OLU
temptest
hime
tweet
ultra
dofla
orca

indie
luka

mafia
xadlin



unsorted:
tweet - moved to town. i dont think he's "coached" to enter the game and play in that way either. if scum he'd probably be aligned with magic here
polar - might be pocketing orca this time around than naturally reading him town as normal
psychic - mia
magic - no reason to read town yet, PoE
jesse - possibly scummate of xadlin by way xadlin mentioned him
lethal - might be a town in this pile by way of relaxed entrance
nibel - might be a town in this pile by way of response to ultra. problem is im not very confident in ultra being town, this takes a bit away from the nibel/ultra interaction
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
What if he's godfather and just wanted to claim early so any push against him is a push to lynch?

I like this thought. I don't agree with for dofla as don't think he puts much stock into consequences.

What were they? Null?

why did you like bachi?

where was this vote on me even going?

What's the relevance of that to this game?

@Ratchet you said you liked this because you think as scum he wouldn't want to draw our attention but it just looks like he wanted to push our attention to one another. Again I don't see how you got your conclusion.

I disagree with myself(mostly cause of the dofla point).

What was that made it easy for you to pick him out as town and why did it differ here?

idk when we fluff.

I liked you calling out dofla's vote which wasn't quoted for some reason. Why didn't you vote though?
The free and friendly vibes combined with independent thoughts and solving. Here there's none of those vibes and all the game-related posts felt very forced/performative, basically just asking very mechanical questions, didn't vibe at all with what I've come to expect from town Luka
 

Emil

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I never get my lynch hence why I'm naturally assuming I won't here. I went over this with you in the dead chat yesterday, as usual you were completely dishonest there. Like you laugh but you couldn't actually give a single example of me getting my choice of lynch as town.
u dont get ur lynches cuz u dont show enough confidence and arent pushy, we've went over this too. tweet's wagon is a prime example

even if u had another wagon that u actually scum read u wont remotely push it as ultra/cp did with luka
 

Polar Bear

G.O.A.T
What if he's godfather, executioner, etc?
Wow you logic is getting bad. Why the etc? Those are really the only 2 options and I don't see him being either bc

1. The executioner would probably have been used as i have Luka as town and it would again make ultra look so freaking bad

2. If GF he would never be able to kill bc of the high potential of being caught or inadvertently caught

3. If any other scum move he wouldn't be able to use bc of number 2 above
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Not getting his claim is fair, but what you and Ultra are missing is that the day is 72 hours long and there is nothing to stop me going back to Tweet. I don't need to get his claim right now. I could instead see what shakes elsewhere, and then come back to Tweet if I feel it's the best option. I know you lot don't understand patience and want to speed through days but if I'm wrong on Tweet I want to be able to see that before he claims. I look at the read Magic gave and acknowledge that the town reads he commits to tends to be accurate, so I factor that into my thinking.

I don't think you have a clue what my process is or how I think so your attempts to read me probably aren't going to be very good (irregardless of the conclusions) but one thi g that needs to be made clear for you is, me not being scum here doesn't mean I'm petty and trying to create the very situation that I complain about so I can say I was justified in said position. I don't care what you, or anyone else here, thinks about how justified I am in the complaints I had. My sole concern is getting the right answers. I believe this to be the best way to achieve that. The sooner that you accept that my thought processes are not governed by a concern for how the rest of you lot perceive them, the better time you will have with parsing them correctly.
So you wagoned him, didn't get a claim, he didn't appear to satisfactorily answer or address any of your concerns, and you decide to drop the wagon because it's a 72 hour day and you might go back to it later. You don't contest any of this?

As for the rest, not super relevant so people can skip. But I fingered you as bussing Luka in that one game before getting either of your flips and pushed to lynch you every phase until I died (the moron brigade refused to lynch you because you literally do almost always get your way on here contrary to your moaning), and I can't really think of a time I've tried to mislynch you recently. So not sure that's a fair description of my ability to read you
 

Ratchet

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where was this vote on me even going?
I really think Bachi is town based off of his early posts, so the initial read I had has somewhat been mixed in. I think I liked him being present early in the thread and just making some posts that looked like he wanted to say something, just felt to me like a townie mindset. I find it to be weaker now because I think his posts around Ekko while I disagreed, are unlikely to be where he digs in as scum.

As for the vote on yiu, wanted to see how it would be played around, by yourself and others. Moved off of it later for Ultra because I felt that was more useful.
@Ratchet you said you liked this because you think as scum he wouldn't want to draw our attention but it just looks like he wanted to push our attention to one another. Again I don't see how you got your conclusion.
I think as scum he probably doesn't tag you both asking for your positions on one another, because invariably that draws attention to himself. It's a weak town read, but I think as scum he is quite conflict adverse, so my thinking is he would be more likely to provide side commentary than directly ask two leading players to draw positions out of them. He's a weaker town read than Orca.
 

Tempest

Leprous Monarch
Wow you logic is getting bad. Why the etc? Those are really the only 2 options and I don't see him being either bc

1. The executioner would probably have been used as i have Luka as town and it would again make ultra look so freaking bad

2. If GF he would never be able to kill bc of the high potential of being caught or inadvertently caught

3. If any other scum move he wouldn't be able to use bc of number 2 above
This seems overly defensive for a fair and non accusatory question
 

Ratchet

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Moderator
So you wagoned him, didn't get a claim, he didn't appear to satisfactorily answer or address any of your concerns, and you decide to drop the wagon because it's a 72 hour day and you might go back to it later. You don't contest any of this?
I decided to move my vote to someone I agree looks like he's making shit up to justify being on the very same wagon, yes. If I feel like Tweet is a better alternative anyway I'll go back to him.
As for the rest, not super relevant so people can skip. But I fingered you as bussing Luka in that one game before getting either of your flips and pushed to lynch you every phase until I died (the moron brigade refused to lynch you because you literally do almost always get your way on here contrary to your moaning), and I can't really think of a time I've tried to mislynch you recently. So not sure that's a fair description of my ability to read you
I never said you have repeatedly tried to mislynch me, I said you simply don't understand how I think. If I were to go further, I think you project your image and impression of me, onto me, and it's mostly unfair because the me you have in your head isn't really close to how I actually am. Case in point, you think I'm the type of player to sabotage my own push, as town, purely to save face for something I argued last game. It's just not close to anything I would do.
 

Magic

Resplendent
You fucked up here
I thought he just meant he had given no scum reads and only towns and then he proceeded to bury himself post after post
ratchet tried defending luka like he did in members but its not gonna work this time :banderas
why did you resort to doing nothing except talking about ratchet and luka
damage control aint gonna work here
Bad
I think that he's interpreting my post as if I'm saying theirs no wolves in your town reads, that was the angle I'm taking. I'm really just saying that if you are a wolf chances are theirs a wolf in there but nyaa.
How would you know if there's wolves in there. What is this
 

Luka

Polarized Noob
How would you know if there's wolves in there. What is this
When they flip I guess ^w^
ATM I don't think theirs to likely to be a wolf in there aside from OLU possibly, and I think that Ratchet just wouldn't make such a read in hte first place in hindsight even with the logic that theirs a wolf in it.
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
Vote lynch Tweet

Can throw my hat down here too actually, take a detour from Luka for a bit. I think his reasons for scum reading Ratchet felt very phoned in and he was largely following a carved out path with the Luka/Ratchet thing

To the point where based on my expectations for his play I can quite easily see a "distance with mate while pushing the townie" esque play here in grouping them
Fucking horrible
 

Hans Tweetenberg

Exceptional
Ratchet
Orca
Ekko
Ultra


Tempest
Bachi


Xadlin(Maybe?)

Dolfia
OLU
Hans Tweeterberg


A few people just haven't posted, presumably incentivized by long cycles but I guess this is roughly where I'm at.
Reomving Nibel since realistically I'm biased on that, I would lean town but unsure. Ekko some people brought valid points against I guess, specifically Orca but meh. I think that in hindsight Bachi has some solid posts at least. Tempest I'm probably going to move up eventually, but I feel uncomfy with literally all of the good players in my strong towns.
So Ultra is town for being wrong about you and Ratchet and I'm scum for it yea?

:becel
 
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