Xcano
Illustrious
If eating replenishes ki, then are you not just agreeing that ki is gained from the environment (in this case, in the form of food)?
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No because we know the characters themselves emit Ki naturally at levels far beyond anything gained from eating
Again, I point to Broly or Frieza
Or Piccolo whose got enough Ki to destroy the entire universe at this point and lives strictly on just water and meditation, explicitly not needing any food
My bad, he already deleted my post, so can he really resist?
Sure
You also just gain Ki from training as most people, despite eating, dont have or have very little Ki to begin with
Xcano
Illustrious
How do you know how much ki should be in food lol. It's an invisible and magical force permeating the universe. Cell certainly seems to get quite a bit stronger by "eating" people.
(For that matter, it's in the water and air too - the word "ki" is literally the same word as "air", the entire universe is ki at its base)
Not much because nobody ever gains aby significant boost from eating alone
Piccolo basically disproves any notion that any notable alight of Ki one emits comes from food
Or again, Broly and Frieza being born with enough power to destroy planets entirely from their mutant genes alone or Gohan having power that starts at an average human level to dramatically surpassing Raditz as an infant just from getting angry
Should also be worth mentioning Broly living out the first 40+ years of his life on Vampa, he was malnutritioned
Freaking water was a delicacy to him he had never seen before after he was rescued and recruited into Frieza’s army
Didn’t stop him from having enough Ki to vastly outmatch Post Tournament of Power Goku and Vegeta despite not having God Ki or anything beyond his mutant variation of the basic Super Saiyan state against their God forms
Freaking water was a delicacy to him he had never seen before after he was rescued and recruited into Frieza’s army
Didn’t stop him from having enough Ki to vastly outmatch Post Tournament of Power Goku and Vegeta despite not having God Ki or anything beyond his mutant variation of the basic Super Saiyan state against their God forms
Your soul? Again Gohan literally explained this to Videl, this is literally 101 for how to fly using your own Ki...
This took no more than literally just typing in "Gohan teaching how to fly"
Eating replenishes ki in the same fashion resting well does, I don't see how that is even supposed to fit your or Goji's point. There's a reason why the Senzu Bean's actual function is only equivalent to eating a 7 day meal in how it replenishes your Ki and your damaged body.
Considering Saiyans have to eat assloads of food to just be full by their own standards and none of that even remotely heals them to any significant degree after the DB Saga?
Not much.
Bruh
What environmental factors were Jiren and MUI Goku drawing upon in the void to generate all that ki?
Besides, eating doesn't replenish Ki, it just fuels your body like normal. The fighters have physical bodies with needs like sleep and hunger, and being tired and hungry makes it harder to do literally anything, which would include generating ki.
Also, about Broly.....dude literally explodes a new body from inside his old one in the OG movies, specifically from spontaneously generating more ki.
Xcano
Illustrious
This doesn't really mean anything, lol. Videl would get a bigger boost from eating than Mr. Satan even if they had exactly equal amounts of ki, just because she knows how to use it and he doesn't. Goku himself obviously gets "back to full power" after a good meal, which indicates the amount he gets depends on his prior "level of strength". In general a lot of Goku's training relies on using his ki more efficiently and with less waste, which means there's varying degrees of energy that can be gained from the same amount of ki.
In general, as I already said, I think there's "infinite ki/energy" in the universe, and we have no idea how much energy it can produce at any scale. I think it's theoretically possible that if an average person was given training by an Angel that they could defeat tremendously strong fighters even if they had significantly less ki overall, just because they can draw out what they have to the highest level.
Yeah man not gonna lie I figure you in particular don't see a lot of things in general lol
Also, I have no idea why the hell you brought up "Cell eating people" when Cell got stronger devouring people's SOULS... which is where Ki comes from(as it can also flare up due to emotions):
This is literally the worst argument you can make with "food benefiting people" when the most that done was with the DB Saga and even THAT was to a point.
This is literally the worst argument you can make with "food benefiting people" when the most that done was with the DB Saga and even THAT was to a point.
Don't try and insult me, that's the very last thing you want to do to make yourself look better.
My English is bad again, but anyway, to get back to the main issue, are you sure that no one in Toaru, like the Magic Gods, would oppose being removed or plot manipulated ? I need a serious answer, not a joke.
I've seen some stupid shit in my years of viewing vs debates, but acting like Ki is from the environment using examples like Cell getting stronger from eating people, despite the fact he is literally sucking them, Ki and all, and is purposely made to do so in a way completely unnatural to how real animals in even DB act, is one of the most retarded arguments I have ever seen.
Niggas think this is Toriko or something
Nothing you say is technically wrong, since the series does run on using energy more efficiently = greater power
Like the basic Super Saiyan form being mastered making it a stronger form than Super Saiyan Second or Third Grade with none of the energy consumption drawbacks
It’s just that you’re going too far with this. Can we at least agree that the environment doesn’t matter for the character besides when they use things like the Spirit Bomb?
I like how this isnt even relating to the original argument Goji made
I'm serious. Probably not.
It's more ridiculous people DID bring this up in Spacebattles before Goji's vomit inducing wall of text:
But apparently, it's the last part that works even though it's literally just from the Spirit Bomb training and only the Spirit Bomb training.