Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

[Xhominid The Apex]

Shalltear Bloodfallen runs a Saberface Gauntlet

location: Outside of Camelot Distance: 20 meters No outside help Death or K.o. no knowledge on either side. no prep time Saber face servants Lakshmi Bai Altria Pendragon (Lily) Okita Souji (Saber) Jeanne d'Arc (Alter Santa Lily) Okita Souji (Alter) Mordred Nero Claudius Gray Mysterious Heroine...

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• Lakshmi Bai
• Altria Pendragon (Lily)
• Okita Souji (Saber)
• Jeanne d'Arc (Alter Santa Lily)
• Okita Souji (Alter)
• Mordred
• Nero Claudius
• Gray
• Mysterious Heroine X
• Altria Pendragon (Alter)
• Jeanne d'Arc
• Castoria
• Artoria
• Morgan
• Altria Pendragon (Lancer Alter)
• Altria Pendragon (Lancer)
• MHX Alter (no infinity)
• Lion King
• MHXX

>Ultimately finds out that Ainz isn't even that strong or powerful enough to fight a Servant.
>Believes that Shaltear who lost to Ainz ultimately would stand a better chance
>Includes the Servantverse Artorias, Lion King and Morgan.

Man, I'm not sure what I find more insulting: Believing no Infinity Gauntlet makes MHXA weak enough that somehow she would be defeated by Shaltear or trying to add the Lilys and think she would easily stomp them...

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Shalltear Bloodfallen runs a Saberface Gauntlet

This is irrelevant as a servant as the 12 rhongo's in LB6 are directly connected to the land and fueled by it.

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This is irrelevant as a servant as the 12 rhongo's in LB6 are directly connected to the land and fueled by it.

Her profile literally mentions she reverse engineered Rhongomyniad into Divine Magecraft and it works only for her(Which was why Caster Artoria had to reconfigure them the best way she could to make the max from them rather than use it like how Morgan did)

Spoiler

The Lostbelt Queen who rules over the Fairy Kingdom of Britain.
She established an authoritarian monarchy in the Lostbelt Britain & has made the fairies suffer under her oppressive rule for 2000 years.
As the highest-ranking fairy, she is a genius sorcerer who has mastered the Spear of End Rhongomyniad as a form of Magecraft.

She would canonically have access to Rhongomyniad regardless, especially since she made fucking 12 of them.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Time Lords low end weapons dismantle planets, stars, star systems, and galaxies

Weaponry in TARDISes can cut apart universes, split and merge timelines, etc

Higher end weaponry can destroy the entirety of N-Space and it's infinitely divergent universes as a result

The best weapons they have are a threat to the entire multiverse which is more like Megaverse+

they would win with their best weapons then for sure

 

[Magicx2]

I dont understand why 50% of the SB threads are about Fate Char vs XYZ.

Does Fate rent free in their head?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I dont understand why 50% of the SB threads are about Fate Char vs XYZ.

Does Fate rent free in their head?

Unironically? Yes. In the same fashion they don't allow calcs from outside SB is because they would get utterly smashed by outsiders who would show how much better they are at actually calc'ing feats than they are.

 

[Magicx2]

Unironically? Yes. In the same fashion they don't allow calcs from outside SB is because they would get utterly smashed by outsiders who would show how much better they are at actually calc'ing feats than they are.

On what level does they put Fate?I know it range from forum to forum.

 

[seth]

On what level does they put Fate?I know it range from forum to forum.

Subsonic servants

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

On what level does they put Fate?I know it range from forum to forum.

As Seth stated, subsonic(because look at the numbers they authors use or Mach 1 and ignore virtually everything else that contradicts those, including the fact that Mana Consumption is the major issue that don't consistently move that fast long distance).

Fate/Zero:Act 14 Part 2 - Baka-Tsuki

www.baka-tsuki.org

However, there was no need to feel anxious. It was true that a Servant’s dexterity was far above that of the V-Max in terms of maximum acceleration and maximum speed. However, this iron beast could maintain its speed as long as there was fuel left. If she was expecting a drawn-out pursuit, then the motorcycle would be very advantageous.

Durability on the level of building(despite their Noble Phantasm, at minimum, would hit with the force of effortlessly destroying Mountains at minimum and a number of Servants can take hits from those and not immediately croak)
Arash took this and ultimately survived it:

And the light that's inside of the character? That's the beam exploding INSIDE OF THEM.

DC is only around Town at best(Which makes no sense as they consistently fight beings that can do WAY more than that minimum and even after weakened are still hard as fuck to put down like Tiamat, let alone shit from Apocrypha, FGO and the FGO America Manga and otherwise showing that's a bunch of garbage)


They don't even believe Mages are physically strong in any fashion despite it being consistently shown that Modern Mages can take ridiculous levels of punishment and damage before they go down as does their adversaries(Shiki Ryougi can avoid a pointblank C4 Car Bomb and outside of her MEoDP, she's no different than Shiki Tohno and Nasu stated that between a fight of him and Shirou Emiya, there's a high chance both of them will end up dead due to taking themselves to the limit to win and neither would defeat a Servant normally).

 

[Limu&Doug]

Shalltear Bloodfallen runs a Saberface Gauntlet

location: Outside of Camelot Distance: 20 meters No outside help Death or K.o. no knowledge on either side. no prep time Saber face servants Lakshmi Bai Altria Pendragon (Lily) Okita Souji (Saber) Jeanne d'Arc (Alter Santa Lily) Okita Souji (Alter) Mordred Nero Claudius Gray Mysterious Heroine...

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>Ultimately finds out that Ainz isn't even that strong or powerful enough to fight a Servant.
>Believes that Shaltear who lost to Ainz ultimately would stand a better chance
>Includes the Servantverse Artorias, Lion King and Morgan.

Man, I'm not sure what I find more insulting: Believing no Infinity Gauntlet makes MHXA weak enough that somehow she would be defeated by Shaltear or trying to add the Lilys and think she would easily stomp them...

Lol, what’s people obsession with Overlord? To me it looks like a generic and boring isekai. Their feats seem overblown and whatever as well.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Lol, what’s people obsession with Overlord? To me it looks like a generic and boring isekai. Their feats seem overblown and whatever as well.

It is. ChaosTheory even brought up in the Anime, Ainz major sole feat of freezing a lake was only shallow... by comparison, Rin Tohsaka can explicitly freeze the entire Lake with a simple spell and it's not even the strongest move she can do or the strongest she is.
The Servants wouldn't just body him, not just the Dead Apostles either even the base Humans/Mages would body him and most of his verse.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Like let me put this in this most ridiculously known fashion possible for how bad Overlord can be wanked, especially when people pit the series against Fate and then bitches about "how nonsensical it is":

Ainz supposedly has an item that should be able to bypass Magic Resistance because that's how it is in the show... but in the Nasuverse, there's 2 different types of Resistance:

Magic Resistance (対魔力, Tai-Maryoku?, localized as "Anti-Magic"EX) grants protection against magical effects. Differing from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether.

And the main use is literally tearing the Magic spell apart, ceasing it from even existing in the first place... ironically very close to Imagine Breaker without it's issues and far more encompassing(As Magecraft includes Alchemy, Curses, Runes, etc)
Now they will point out "What about the 2-3 Verses schtick" and the answer to that is still the same:
Can it be proven that Ainz's abilities should work on characters with Magic Resistance because there are levels to his spells? Medea's AoG-Tier Magic couldn't get past A Rank Magic Resistance and she has to use other means to defeat Saber, so why should Ainz when "Modern Magecraft" is still capable of doing shit like Inversing Causality, Summoning Lightning Bolts, Creating Pocket Dimensions, Teleportation and the like?

 

[OtherGalaxy]

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...estiny-vs-the-entire-marvel-and-dc-u-2236494/

 

[Adamant soul]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/how-strong-is-eos-sui-feng.1252184/page-9

Pfft no they're not. Any Captain-class Shinigami that has undergone Royal Guard training will be several times stronger than your average Gotei 13 Captain. As of the oneshot, the thirteen Captains (plus Renji) are roughly...

1. Byakuya
2. Zaraki
3. Rukia
4. Renji
5. Mayuri
6. Kyoraku

EoS Rukia and Renji above Mayuri AND Shunsui, as if either one wouldn't stomp the fuck out of them.

The fucking Shunsui downplay over there is not only disgusting but also hypocritical, since these people buy Kubo's statement of Bankai Shunsui possibly being able to beat Soul Reaper Aizen. Yet Renji and/or Rukia could beat him, despite his hax and blatantly better feats of being able to fight an Elite Nazi?

Oh yeah I forgot Lillie is shit physically BECAUSE Shunsui could fight him and Base Wonderweiss blitzing Ukitake was totally legit as if we don't literally have the Seniors lasting MUCH LONGER against a bloodlusted Yamamoto than Released Wonderweiss did.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/how-strong-is-eos-sui-feng.1252184/page-9

EoS Rukia and Renji above Mayuri AND Shunsui, as if either one wouldn't stomp the fuck out of them.

The fucking Shunsui downplay over there is not only disgusting but also hypocritical, since these people buy Kubo's statement of Bankai Shunsui possibly being able to beat Soul Reaper Aizen. Yet Renji and/or Rukia could beat him, despite his hax and blatantly better feats of being able to fight an Elite Nazi?

Oh yeah I forgot Lillie is shit physically BECAUSE Shunsui could fight him and Base Wonderweiss blitzing Ukitake was totally legit as if we don't literally have the Seniors lasting MUCH LONGER against a bloodlusted Yamamoto than Released Wonderweiss did.

It's honestly weird considering another Elite Sternritter by the name of... oh right Gerard literally defeat them by breathing at them hard and sent them out of the fight for minutes.
So yeah, apparently they > Shunsui despite him being able to stand up to fucking Lille the entire time and even killing him when he normally couldn't.

Might as well say RG Byakuya and Adult Hitsugaya gets defeated because they couldn't kill Gerard

 

[Claudio Swiss]

buy Kubo's statement of Bankai Shunsui possibly being able to beat Soul Reaper Aizen. Y

when was this?

 

[Adamant soul]

It's honestly weird considering another Elite Sternritter by the name of... oh right Gerard literally defeat them by breathing at them hard and sent them out of the fight for minutes.
So yeah, apparently they > Shunsui despite him being able to stand up to fucking Lille the entire time and even killing him when he normally couldn't.

"Bu..but Lillie is all hax and physically isn't on par with the other Elite Nazis."

Remember logical powerscaling's a dirty fucking word over there unless it suits them. They want to treat Shunsui struggling with a holding back Stark and Robert as his peak feats, as if we haven't been straight up told that if Soul Reaper and Zanpaktou don't work together, they weaken each other and Shunsui has much better showings against Stark, Yama and Lillie when his Zanpaktou is on board.

Nah Lillie is TOTALLY weaker physically than Robert, the guy Mustache specifically left to die (while taking Lillie with him) because the latter was worthless to him at that point.

And also that statement from Zangetsu (a Zanpaktou himself) CLEARLY only refers to Kenpachi's situation even though he clearly words it as a general statement.

Might as well say RG Byakuya and Adult Hitsugaya gets defeated because they couldn't kill Gerard

That's the thing, THOSE two seem to get a pass. They'll go against the Kenpachi wank squad to point out the obvious fact that those two have better feats than Kenpachi, but somehow Shunsui is "overrated".

when was this?

Not sure, but multiple people have told me it's a thing.

 

[Magicx2]

Tbf,Lille is a sniper and his whole moveset is spatial hax which dont require any kind of strength.He just pulls the trigger and RIP

On top of being permaintang as well.Physicaly hes clearly far below Giant Gerard

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

when was this?

I think it was either stated in one of the materials or in one of his questionnaires before the final arc.

"Bu..but Lillie is all hax and physically isn't on par with the other Elite Nazis."

Remember logical powerscaling's a dirty fucking word over unless it suits them. They want to treat Shunsui struggling with a holding back Stark and Robert as his peak feats, as if we haven't been straight up told that if Soul Reaper and Zanpaktou don't work together, they weaken each other and Shunsui has much better showings against Stark, Yama and Lillie when his Zanpaktou is on board.

Nah Lillie is TOTALLY weaker physically than Robert, the guy Mustache specifically left to die (while taking Lillie with him) because the latter was worthless to him at that point.

And also that statement from Zangetsu (a Zanpaktou himself) CLEARLY only refers to Kenpachi's situation even though he clearly words it as a general statement.

Basically. People take Shunsui getting his eye out for how weak he is... despite Shunsui ultimately treating it like it was nothing and he only even lost his fight due to Yamamoto's death rattling him to his core.

By comparison against Lille, he legit freaked him out, basically got to him and hit him 3 times and even destroyed one of his angelic forms with his Bankai. Let's also forget that yeah, it was a general statement, not just limited to Zaraki.

Tbf,Lille is a sniper and his whole moveset is spatial hax which dont require any kind of strength.He just pulls the trigger and RIP

On top of being permaintang as well.Physicaly hes clearly far below Giant Gerard

Lille is still a High level Quincy and is very much capable of dealing with the Royal Guard after the amp up. Dude isn't pathetic close range and has his own absurd tricks even before the angelic form.

 

[Myralice]

I dont understand why 50% of the SB threads are about Fate Char vs XYZ.

Does Fate rent free in their head?

Because the other 50% is One Piece. There are no other franchises on SB. (except Naruto and Bleach)
If all VS forums had a containment thread where everyone was forced to debate these four for all eternity AND NOWHERE ELSE...
Paradise~

 

[OtherGalaxy]

SB does use a few other fictions, theyre just always shit