Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition
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someone in a DCEU Thread literally said the bullets Diana blocked were slow
All Might vs DCEU Superman, MCU Thor and Captain Marvel
Captain Marvel crashing through Sanctuary II is pretty crazy. https://youtu.be/SMK7QiobVnI?t=81 But...even that's not really on-par with All Might's better stuff. If the wind coming from his fist is at all comparable Carol's constant thrust, when she had a lot of room to build momentum, then...
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SB should just quit vs debating.
I honestly don't understand how SB is this bad at vs debating. I mean, it really says something when some of my friends who are extremely casual when it comes to this stuff (we're talking sub-Death Battle levels) manage to be better than 99% of the shit SB says.
I bet your friends could Whoop me in a discussion
I assume the Toaru character is out of his league here? I'm not familiar with Toaru so I don't know?
Othinus (ToAru) runs a Digimon magic-user Gauntlet
Othinus must have a fight to the death with some of Digimon's most proficient magic users. Rules: Everyone is in character and all canon feats are allowed(Games, Anime, reference books, Manga, etc.) No prep time or prior knowledge Speed is equal Win via death or incapacitation Othinus is at...forums.spacebattles.com
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t671775.html
I wonder what Quora thread he got this take from.
I wonder what Quora thread he got this take from.
Nothing I've seen puts them above Barbamon fused with Yggdrassil
not sure how Barbamon X compares to that though
The worst part is that it's not only the main counterargument they use, it's primarily the most commonly used one that they will drop on a dime for, again, any pet series they like(Which is primarily To Aru).
"Prove the Lightning is actual Lightning?" It comes from manipulation of the electromagnetic spectrum? That means nothing at all!
It literally comes from the person to the sky and from the sky back to the target on the ground? They most likely aim dodged it!
The Lightning comes from a Magic that- NOPE! Magic is Magic and thus the feat can't be used as it's not "True Lightning".
Okay it's Misaka from To Aru... OH IT IS! Then it's absolutely 100% real Lightning and anyone stacks to that then!
That's literally how it goes for SB Land when it comes to debating Lightning.
They truly should, they absolutely fucking suck at it.
someone in a DCEU Thread literally said the bullets Diana blocked were slow
All Might vs DCEU Superman, MCU Thor and Captain Marvel
Captain Marvel crashing through Sanctuary II is pretty crazy. https://youtu.be/SMK7QiobVnI?t=81 But...even that's not really on-par with All Might's better stuff. If the wind coming from his fist is at all comparable Carol's constant thrust, when she had a lot of room to build momentum, then...
That's literally from the diatribe I only copied and pasted because it was so fucking stupid, I couldn't even force myself to fully read it. The fact he actually went to "slow fucking bullets" and actually thinks that's a legit way to downplay feats is fucking mental but completely indicative of Spacebattles logic
I've seen better debates in fucking ComicVine and most of that shit is filled with Multiversal Dimensional Tiering bullshit that's mixing in superhard with trolling and blatant parody attempts.
Othinus is Universal with Gungnir and otherwise is SUPPOSED to be Universal without it but suffers a 50/50 Probability choice of having the spell succeed or either not work and literally backfire on her.
She's one of the quintessential characters SB loves to use whenever it comes to To Aru and she's honestly the most fucking boring since it ALWAYS comes back to the first one being used alot.
So basically any Digimon with Universal+/Multiversal backing would absolutely murder her... which is everyone in that list.
Night Raid(Akame Ga Kill) vs 5th Holy Grail War Servants(Fate)
All are in-character, and there is no knowledge or prep. The Location is the Imperial Palace, and the distance is 30 meters. Night Raid includes all members, and they have all of their imperial arms. Both Tatsumi and Bulat have their own Incursio, and Tatsumi is in his evolved state. The...
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I see we are back on the "Fate is actually a weak and inconsistent verse again, let's not fully believe everyone gets easily stomped by Night Raid because reasons" train again... choo-choo.
Wow, a SB'er who is ignoring their own hypocrisy to completely get a scene wrong.
Mordred explicitly wasn't dying from any typical poison when Semiramis was trying to kill her(yeah she coughed up blood once but that wasn't enough to put her down). What WAS killing her when Semiramis finally had enough? Hydra Venom:
Fate/Apocrypha material - Encyclopedia: Hydra [Magical Beast], p.181 [T]
And did people forget that even in real life myth, Hydra Venom is some truly fucked up shit where the fucking pain was so unbearable, Chiron killed himself and Heracles ultimately just chose to burn himself to death rather than let the pain continue any further. So in comparison, you really can't just say it's "any poison" can ultimately kill a Servant when it had to be bullshit like Hydra Venom to ultimately do so.
Bra (unmajinized) vs Kefla | DBM (Extended Discussion)
Who do you think would win? They seem pretty evenly matched to me. I think a good point of reference here is Gohan, since his DBM and DBS selves are roughly at the same power level (one stayed
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Okay now this is just funny...Somehow still better than SB would be at Debates.
The Six Path of Pain Vs Ainz Ooal Gown
VS Rules: All equipment. No preps. Random encounter. No knowledge Start 30m apart from each other. Unofficial feats are allowed. Locations: Uninhabited island Bonus Scenario: R1: Konan Vs Albedo R2: Rinne-Sharingan Obito and his Jinchuuriki Six Path Vs All the Guardians floor
forums.spacebattles.com Bruh...
Ichigo vs Meliodas
Random encounter, location: Yhwach’s throne room, 20 meters apart, K.O. or death. Assault mode Meliodas vs Merged Hollow Ichigo.
forums.spacebattles.com 1. That's fucking adorable to pretend Meliodas has any actual better scaling than Ichigo(Like he can literally be from Country to Continental based on how you can interpret his feats and the Demon King and Supreme Deity are ultra jobbers).
2. Ichigo is only anything above Continental/Multi-Continental due to people trying to stupidly scale him to Soul King Yhwach and believes he's Universal because of some random shit stated in CFYOW.
Prime bout to beat the hair back into this nigga holy shit
Oma Zi-O (Kamen Rider) vs. The Magic Gods (Toaru)
vs. Scenario: Oma Zi-O decides to invade the Toaru verse and take over but due to his power he is immediately noticed by The Magic Gods and has to fight them. Round 1: A one vs. one against Othinus Both at the peak of their power The fight takes place between the Toaru verse and the Kamen...
forums.spacebattles.com Othinus (ToAru) runs a Digimon magic-user Gauntlet
Othinus must have a fight to the death with some of Digimon's most proficient magic users. Rules: Everyone is in character and all canon feats are allowed(Games, Anime, reference books, Manga, etc.) No prep time or prior knowledge Speed is equal Win via death or incapacitation Othinus is at...
forums.spacebattles.com Spacebattles need to get the fuck on
Shinrabansho Man (Fire Force) vs Nasuverse characters
R1: normal speed R2: equalized speed (no particular order) Abigail Williams Gilgamesh King Hassan God Arjuna Tiamat Kirschtaria Wodime Oberon Morgan Buddha Romulus-Quirinus Beast III/R Kiara Arcueid (Remake) Mysterious Heroine XX Zeus Sefar Chaos MHX Alter Goetia Rules: Everyone is at...
forums.spacebattles.com Outside of potentially Abigail, every single person here would sadly murder Shinrabanshoman despite his abilities... guess how SB believes he will somehow outstat most of these people?
>Believes he can outstat God Fucking Arjuna.
Only in SB's wildest dreams is that even true. I even found out that God Arjuna doesn't even NEED the Lostbelt to be seen as "perfect", him being able to control the Yuga Cycles is more than enough.
Shinrabanshoman would get fucked up as badly as Chaldeas did against him the first 2 times they've met.
Night Raid(Akame Ga Kill) vs 5th Holy Grail War Servants(Fate)
That was obviously hyperbole unless you believe bullets>lightspeed, servants most consistent speed feats have them move at the low single digit hypersonic, with some reaching the double digits. all those speeds are not as fast as tatsumi crossing a 252 km city within seconds, although maybe you...
forums.spacebattles.com I can go through a tear on this entire page on how EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS SO UNFATHOMABLY WRONG but at this point, I want to focus on a few and then just move on because this is going to take my entire life(ironic how all of these terrible takes happened AFTER I get perma-banned and most of the Fate debaters virtually left the site or hobby as well).
This is a truly unfathomably bad take... so let's start from the top:
1. We literally have in the text of Turas Realta in the exact page where Fergus does his Mountain chopping feat, Hektor(Who remembers Orleans and has seen and worked with Heracles) stated that Heracles is still stronger:
This is also hilariously ignoring that Alcides, the weaker Heracles, was able to flex a Mountain off himself in Strange Fake:
The moment when it happens.
The moment he easily gets out which fits the narration in the LN.
2. I want to know exactly what people love to think "Heroic Willpower" is an outlier... when we have seen that happen so many times in Media as a whole? Vegeta breaking out of Babidi's spell or any brainwashed character breaking out of mind control on their own, characters that are able to stand, move, still fight despite every single bone in their body being broken and shattered, etc, etc. If the character can do said impossible thing... they can do said impossible thing. For fuck's sake, would they pretend the MISAKA Network still existing despite Othinus deleting the entire Universe and everyone living in it doesn't count as that then? Because that definitely comes off as such. And secondly "He had help" AFTER he first blocked it. The fact that SB'ers can't even recognize the extremely obvious timeline despite having the video there clearly showed he blocked it on his own and THEN he got help.
3. "No Servant scales to Dioscuri or Romulus Quirinus" Literally Mash, Musashi, Holmes and most likely Caligula ALL DO because they literally fought Dioscuri when they used their Authority in that fashion. A dead EMIYA Alter literally did so as did Tristan when the former was able to tag Meltryllis while she was in FTL and so did Tristan straight after. And you know, the Machine Gods are literal Interstellar Ships and they show they can explicitly move... so I'm certain that in order for anyone to hurt them, they would ALSO have to be capable of moving or attacking at this speeds too?
I mean it's not like I made a threadmark for this exact thing so people won't be pretending Servants are just stuck at supersonic because they can't read... https://onelastforum.com/threads/type-moon-nasuverse-feats-general-thread.112/page-5#post-56020
4. "Rho Aias only blocks projectiles" is an extremely stupid take considering Rho Aias is a fucking shield that has never once been stated to explicitly only block projectiles.
Fate/side material - Encyclopedia: Rho Aias [Noble Phantasm], p.078-079 [T]
Apparently having conceptual absolute defensive power = ONLY being useful against Defensive Power Weapons(don't bring this up with Fate/Extra or CCC where he has it and can use it against anything INCLUDING Physical attacks...)
I don't think most people in this hobby understand what an actual outlier is any more tbh
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