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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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Whole thread is an entire tragedy...
Forgetting Enkidu can fly, literally not even paying attention to how Transfiguration works(which explicitly tells you how it works in Strange/Fake), forgetting Iskandar has Divinity and Enkidu can just bind him with his Chains and win and even arguing over the interpretation of the latest volume of Strange Fake.
 

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on par with the shuumatsu adam vs zeus fight, whose got the best powerpoint software - the 2D feud :russ :mjlol
they're getting dunked on literally
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Everyone loses to each other in the vortex of bad writing in FGO and Extella. Gilgamesh himself lost to a group consisting of Iskandar, Lancelot, Artoria, Waver and Mash.

Because they literally took advantage of the time and area and challenged him to a fight at once. Waver explicitly mentions if they tried ANYTHING underhanded, Gilgamesh would have murdered them all. And Iskandar explicitly wasn't a part of it, it was just Artoria(Who remember is under Irisviel and is such a threat that the Counter Force wanted Irisviel murdered as it guaranteed the Einzberns victory), Diarmuid, Lancelot, Waver(Who knows what Gilgamesh is capable of as he fought him in the past and is himself a powerful Pseudo-Servant), Mash and Ritsuka's Shadow Servants.

Are we actually told Enkidu's rank as a Servant/Heroic Spirit?

If Sieg called both Achilles and Chiron A Rank Servants, what the hell does that make Enkidu?
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Man Vasavi Shakti sure can't kill anything, it just keeps getting anti-feats.
It couldn't kill Sieg with Balmung boosted by a Command Spell.

Was explicitly going to, that's why Ahkellius Kosmos had to save his ass and that completely destroyed it too.

It couldn't kill Cu Chulainn Alter after Karna got hit by Gae Bolg.

Karna didn't even HAVE a Spirit Core anymore, it's a fucking miracle(or a testament to Karna's bullshit willpower) that he was able to use it at all, let alone fire it.

It couldn't kill Fafnir when it was used by a copy with similar battle prowess.

Fafnir literally survived a Balmung twice over in Olreans(And even takes it dead on in the same Event) and canonically still survived Orleans in Siegfried's Interlude despite everyone believing it was dead. Fafnir is one of the most bullshit Dragons to exist out of an already bullshit Phantasmal Species.

It couldn't kill Gawain boosted by a Numeral of the Saint Code Cast and an endurance buff from Leo.

Jinako had absolutely terrible Mana levels and again, it's a fucking miracle that Karna even pulled that shit off considering he wasn't even able to heal his injuries at all throughout CCC because of said terrible mana levels. This also ignores Gawain's absurd durability to even survive a fraction of Rhongomyniad that was meant to kill him dead by the Lion King who knew exactly how powerful he was and that he STILL required an endurance buff ON TOP of the Numerals Code Cast is a testament to that.

It couldn't kill Charlie after it clashed with Joyeuse while Karna had more power than usual due to being backed by the magical energy of Karl's NP.

Charlemagne is a Top Servant level being, you know? The same person who ultimately defeated Karl? This is as bad as saying "Charlemagne is weak because he couldn't make Full Power Artoria budge" rather than "Artoria is so fucking strong BECAUSE Charlemagne couldn't make her budge"

It was equalled by Arjuna's Pashupata being used like a rasengan.

I'm not sure how the hell that makes VS weak considering Pashupata is canonically one of the 3 Great Astras next to Brahmastra and Ash's version. And considering canonically, both Karna AND Arjuna died from that mean that both equal each other in power... which makes alot of sense considering in FGO, Arjuna only died using it AND having to forcefully regulate it the entire time to only destroy the Demon God Pillars and not everyone else.

It couldn't kill Ashwattama.

Let us not forget that:
1. Ashwatthama was canonically immortal as not only stated by the characters but even by Koyanskaya herself due to the blessing God Arjuna gave him(Which also gave him back his fucked up curse).

2. Karna and Rama was explicitly famed down badly in the same Lostbelt due to barely anyone even knowing or remembering them and they ALSO explicitly bring this up before what happened. Even at the tail end, they was still affected by the Fame down:
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So um yeah, that's kinda extremely significant on why Ashwathama was still alive(the sheer fact that even with those advantage and disadvantage, he was unable to even move or chase after them speaks volumes again).

This also ignores that it killed Stage 3 Sefar(i.e. The one we see ingame) that the only other people who killed it was Regalia users and other bullshit high Tier Servants.
 
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Also, glintstone sorcery is based on witnessing cosmic events and then making those events actually happen. They're outright reality warpers who can bring cosmic phenomena into existence by bearing witness to them.

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I fucking knew the game was gonna have some shit like this in it

basically there is no god damn way elden ring isn't star level lol
 
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