unpopular opinions thread: olf o bee dee edition

twitter isnt going anywhere any time soon because it's somehow locked itself in as a news locus. Musk was retarded for even trying to buy it at that price in the first place. There is no advertising money to be made on twitter, and Musk already had the reach and fanbase there to do whatever he wants, which is the only thing it's really useful for from a business standpoint.

It's more helping himself cash out before the recession starts causing shit to tank.
The typical pump and dump.
 

Flowering Knight

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Capeshit only seems like it's alive because Disney's still pumping out shows thinking the average person is going to care about them. Hell, it was a pretty big deal when something like Demon Slayer was able to outsell the entire American comics industry, in America. Capeshit is 100% dying out. The weebs have won.
 
he's already got enough reach and rabid fanboys for that tbh

It's a little more complicated than that but whatever.

Capeshit only seems like it's alive because Disney's still pumping out shows thinking the average person is going to care about them. Hell, it was a pretty big deal when something like Demon Slayer was able to outsell the entire American comics industry, in America. Capeshit is 100% dying out. The weebs have won.

Yep and you can see how American Media is NOT taking it well by putting Manga in with Graphic Novels and then saying there's such a massive spike in sales and Comics aren't dying due to it. :oldryoma
Like goddamn, seeing American Comic fans basically bitch about it is becoming an artform.

It was almost destined to happen

no matter how many reimaginings you do having to read decades of back material to understand a character is not going to draw people in

anybody can hop into any random manga and back out, it's a very accessible medium

The biggest problem I've seen with American Comic Books is the fact that they haven't figured out that the constant resets to the Status Quo has officially done readers a terrible hand and they left due to it.
The Constant Crises that never matter after a few months, the constant abuse of new and "better" legacy heroes with no proper buildup or reason to care, Superheroes people know and love continue to get bastardized by shitty writers, deaths that don't matter at all because they will be resurrected in the next storyline, villains continue to be hardcore killers that kill thousands to show how much of a "real threat they are" yet heroes can't kill them which causes a ripple effect that makes no one care for the state of the universe, etc, etc.
 

Astaro

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And when we do get “innovation” in comics it tends to suck.

I do agree the superhero genre of western comics is becoming stagnant and they either need to expand on other genres or try to adopt the way manga releases actual new content if they hope to stay relevant
 
it's just a stagnant industry because the primary producers are big legacy companies that don't allow any real innovation

Which was needed DECADES ago. Really thinking of American Superhero Comics the biggest cause of their fall... was the fact that they refused to actually change their approach.
Like you can do stories that never stop, we see that in newspapers all the time... the problem is that they completely removed that approach around the 90's and refused to have the characters actually age, grow or new characters slowly get the buildup they need to actually earn their spot.
You still had multiple writers when that's a trainwreck waiting to happen when it would have been best to only have one writer do just one storyline or stick to their character.
For all of Manga and Anime's faults, there's very rarely someone swapping in for the author unless they died and they wanted the series to continue under someone else; There's very rarely consequences that don't matter because another writer came in and wanted to use a character and completely destroy the point of a good arc(Kid Loki is the biggest example of this); Characters actually grow when it happens and don't regress because another writer wanted to "start over" and so on and so forth.

The fact that this still happens and no one in the American Comics Industry understands this despite Japanese Deadpool and Joker Manga have equally sold far more than most of their shit is what makes this ridiculous and infuriating.
No wonder people don't want to care about the X-Men when Krakoa goes against everything they stand for.
Why bother with Captain America when the writers clearly hate him and America?
Why bother with Black Panther when they shit on T'Challa everytime because Storm left him?(No, this actually happens now)
Why bother with Batman when he's still bitching that Catwoman left him on the altar to the point of savagely beating Jason Todd for using blanks?
Why fucking bother with Spider-Man with everything they ever do with him?

Even with us ragging on My Hero Academia, One Punch Man, Negima!, Bleach and all of that other shit, those are STILL a THOUSAND TIMES BETTER than what's going on in American Comics for the past 20 years alone outside of some very rare outliers.
 

Even Spacebattles has people primarily knowing and agreeing that the superhero boom is finally reaching the point where it's basically stale. Their reasons maybe different all-round but it's still the same consensus in the end.
 

OtherGalaxy

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Which was needed DECADES ago. Really thinking of American Superhero Comics the biggest cause of their fall... was the fact that they refused to actually change their approach.
Like you can do stories that never stop, we see that in newspapers all the time... the problem is that they completely removed that approach around the 90's and refused to have the characters actually age, grow or new characters slowly get the buildup they need to actually earn their spot.
You still had multiple writers when that's a trainwreck waiting to happen when it would have been best to only have one writer do just one storyline or stick to their character.
For all of Manga and Anime's faults, there's very rarely someone swapping in for the author unless they died and they wanted the series to continue under someone else; There's very rarely consequences that don't matter because another writer came in and wanted to use a character and completely destroy the point of a good arc(Kid Loki is the biggest example of this); Characters actually grow when it happens and don't regress because another writer wanted to "start over" and so on and so forth.

The fact that this still happens and no one in the American Comics Industry understands this despite Japanese Deadpool and Joker Manga have equally sold far more than most of their shit is what makes this ridiculous and infuriating.
No wonder people don't want to care about the X-Men when Krakoa goes against everything they stand for.
Why bother with Captain America when the writers clearly hate him and America?
Why bother with Black Panther when they shit on T'Challa everytime because Storm left him?(No, this actually happens now)
Why bother with Batman when he's still bitching that Catwoman left him on the altar to the point of savagely beating Jason Todd for using blanks?
Why fucking bother with Spider-Man with everything they ever do with him?

Even with us ragging on My Hero Academia, One Punch Man, Negima!, Bleach and all of that other shit, those are STILL a THOUSAND TIMES BETTER than what's going on in American Comics for the past 20 years alone outside of some very rare outliers.
i see you try to slip negima in there :mjpls
 

GregSteve

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Depends there's still some good writers and stories but it's hard to keep it fresh with 70+ year old characters for sure not to mention alot of writers ,I say this with no ill meanings towards the communities you guys do you, wanna try to make a splash by making a character gay outta no where, or edgy as fuck and change their morals or swap white heroes to another ethnicity or gender outta no where

Like idc if that stuff happens but make it thought out and tasteful and not think you made a better statement about injustice that Xmen clearly has done since they were made
 
Depends there's still some good writers and stories but it's hard to keep it fresh with 70+ year old characters for sure not to mention alot of writers ,I say this with no ill meanings towards the communities you guys do you, wanna try to make a splash by making a character gay outta no where, or edgy as fuck and change their morals or swap white heroes to another ethnicity or gender outta no where

Like idc if that stuff happens but make it thought out and tasteful and not think you made a better statement about injustice that Xmen clearly has done since they were made

Like I said before, it's very much possible but modern day writers squander the living fuck out of it to the point it's clearly obvious the corporations don't care as they are hoping Hollywood takes the wheel entirely(despite the boom reaching it's end a year ago).
The main way it gets better is through a renaissance of indies or Marvel and DC losing their copyright status and others taking over at this point.
 

GregSteve

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Like I said before, it's very much possible but modern day writers squander the living fuck out of it to the point it's clearly obvious the corporations don't care as they are hoping Hollywood takes the wheel entirely(despite the boom reaching it's end a year ago).
The main way it gets better is through a renaissance of indies or Marvel and DC losing their copyright status and others taking over at this point.
Oh yea for sure I'm mean Marvel revamps characters to align a little more with the MCU I mean shit they did a one off with She Hulk just to return her to her og sexy self just to fit with it since she's got a Disney+ show this year
 
Really looking at something, it really shows how much we lost when don't even have basic cohesion anymore in fight scenes outside of rare moments:
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The former? From the 60's. The latter? The 80's. Simple cohesion and flow in a fight scene that wouldn't be out of place in a shonen manga. Meanwhile, how many fight scenes have we've seen now in the modern day that isn't just this:
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3 Disconnected Scenes that feel like you got it from a Novel rather than actually feel like a cohesive scene.
I found this out from somewhere else but when you really look at it... it really shows you more of the major failings of American Superhero Comics including the fact that very few artists even care for making a cohesive fight scene.
Even Mahashi Kishimoto has done cohesive fight scenes and does them far better than most modern American Comics, hell, so has MHA...
And when you think about that, no wonder people treat that as the actual Superhero series to back than American Comics.
 
choreography is an artform of its own and there are very few people in any modern medium that seem to have a good grasp on it

True but it's pretty damn evident that Superhero Comics completely lost that artform decades ago and barely even want to try.
Shonen isn't that much better(Naruto was used in a negative context because he also sucks at it) but it really speaks volumes on how bad it has gotten in the area of just not trying vs. Not even beginning to learn from Akira Toriyama.
 
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