Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

OtherGalaxy said:

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not bad, although I kind of thought that even without omega lock he could have risen to universal+ due to Vector Prime’s battle with mogahn the mass with his big bang who created the Universe.
When Mogahn manifested in a universe, even Unicron steered clear. You reading this all owe Vector, is what I'm saying.

i sometimes ponder that

mostly because i refuse to completely accept the idea ramjet of all people is stronger than fucking Galvatron

Diet Coke Spider-Man getting zapped



Saint level Miles is just lol



Misaka’s radar hard counters camouflage. She’d know where he is with heir own eyes closed.

Venom is great if Misaka wasn’t so good at avoiding getting touched in the first place. This fight plays out exactly like Death Battle’s Static Shock vs Miles and just as badly.

Thirteen prime said:

not bad, although I kind of thought that even without omega lock he could have risen to universal+ due to Vector Prime’s battle with mogahn the mass with his big bang who created the Universe.

Mogahn the Mass - Transformers Wiki

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When Mogahn manifested in a universe, even Unicron steered clear. You reading this all owe Vector, is what I'm saying.

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I’ve never been able to tell if the big bang against Mogahn was more of a BFR feat or attributable to raw power

grillmaster said:

i sometimes ponder that

mostly because i refuse to completely accept the idea ramjet of all people is stronger than fucking Galvatron

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Ramjet also had elder gods fucking with him and had an unmitigated stream of power from Unicron to be fair. The Unicron armor Megs/Galv has gives him strength but maybe it only goes so far vs actual heralds or something? idk, could be wrong here

Unicron cannot interact with Madoka, she is a multiversal concept and she is above Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen, Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen which is the Infinite and non-existent multiverse that Madoka erased.

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Does this guy...not know anything about Unicron...at all??? You don't need to know any of the obscure lore stuff to know this isn't the case

OtherGalaxy said:

I’ve never been able to tell if the big bang against Mogahn was more of a BFR feat or attributable to raw power

Ramjet also had elder gods fucking with him and had an unmitigated stream of power from Unicron to be fair. The Unicron armor Megs/Galv has gives him strength but maybe it only goes so far vs actual heralds or something? idk, could be wrong here

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I think this was the result of the matter and energy he absorbed.

Fun overlord fact when zesshi met mare in volume sixteen she noticed something rather humorous. That being that mare didn't make any sense to her. Mare would apologize/act nice as he tried to bash her skull in, and more she could sense that mare simply didn't care about her. She descirbes it as him feeling almost like a puppet.

To her it felt like mare was something gross, something not real/not right. A creature contradicting itself in ways that don't make any sense. This is essentially the author lamp shading the fact the npcs are inherently not realistic people, they're amalgams of their creators personalities/desires, and whatever fucked up backstory was written into them. Mixed with Yggdrasil mechanics. They contradict themselves because that's how they're written within the context of there own universe.


Zesshi is one of the few people to pick up on this bizarreness/otherness presented by the npcs and it's pretty humorous to hear her inner thoughts during the battle as she wrestles with the fact the elf before her is so alien it's more comforting to think it might be undead.

OtherGalaxy said:

I’ve never been able to tell if the big bang against Mogahn was more of a BFR feat or attributable to raw power

Ramjet also had elder gods fucking with him and had an unmitigated stream of power from Unicron to be fair. The Unicron armor Megs/Galv has gives him strength but maybe it only goes so far vs actual heralds or something? idk, could be wrong here

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citing the sacred texts for a moment:

The Five of the Thirteen who dwelled there reached out to me, reminded me who I was, unlocked my long-sealed memories. I was no longer a humble Autobot leader, I was the Guardian of Space and Time, and no one, no thing, could stand in the way of my duties. My consciousness returned to the physical plane, and I wrest the Cyber Caliber from Mogahn's grasp. Using the gift that Amalgamous, who was then called Adaptus, gave to me, I reformatted it into a sword capable of slicing through time itself. With the last of my strength, I freed all of the captive souls and sparks with the Mass, and sent what remained of him hurtling back screaming to the beginning of time, where his destruction became known as the Big Bang, creating the very reality we happened to be fighting in.

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my interpretation was that mogahn exploded cause he got hit so hard

i mean it fits nicely with Ramjet claiming hes wielded the power of "dead universes"

grillmaster said:

i sometimes ponder that

mostly because i refuse to completely accept the idea ramjet of all people is stronger than fucking Galvatron

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The very first episode of Galaxy Force had Megatron catch Vector Prime’s sword and toss him through the wall. He also dealt with VP’s cyber key power much better than Ramjet did

This was all before Megatron got cyber key powers of his own

Cybertron is just insane either way you slice it. With the sole exception of Marvel G1, and only because it has True Unicron/Primus, it's the strongest TF continuity by like leagues

Crimson Dragoon said:

The very first episode of Galaxy Force had Megatron catch Vector Prime’s sword and toss him through the wall. He also dealt with VP’s cyber key power much better than Ramjet did

This was all before Megatron got cyber key powers of his own

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Megatron gets the fabled Main Villain power boost in my mind can a main villain be stronger than the random bad guys from comics for ONCE IN THIS CLOWN SHOW FRANCHISE

grillmaster said:

citing the sacred texts for a moment:

my interpretation was that mogahn exploded cause he got hit so hard

i mean it fits nicely with Ramjet claiming hes wielded the power of "dead universes"

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i mean we already know vectors true form is like super mega ultra hyper gigaversal or whatever the fuck his avatars being universal doesnt sound too crazy to me atp

Crimson Dragoon said:

The very first episode of Galaxy Force had Megatron catch Vector Prime’s sword and toss him through the wall. He also dealt with VP’s cyber key power much better than Ramjet did

This was all before Megatron got cyber key powers of his own

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btw i was just talking to othergalaxy about this before but im curious what do you think, if you dont mind that is
how strong is galvatron w/ the omega lock

grillmaster said:

btw i was just talking to othergalaxy about this before but im curious what do you think, if you dont mind that is
how strong is galvatron w/ the omega lock

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Universe level+ at least

He was gonna recreate the universe and I’m inclined to take his word for it since we know the Omega Lock can have multiverse scale power, and Primus in GF was called a universe creator like three times. Galvatron had a huge chunk of his power

Crimson Dragoon said:

Universe level+ at least

He was gonna recreate the universe and I’m inclined to take his word for it since we know the Omega Lock can have multiverse scale power, and Primus in GF was called a universe creator like three times. Galvatron had a huge chunk of his power

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I don't even know that it's quantifiable but given he still lost to Optimus/Override/Evac/Scourge together it really makes me wonder how strong they are EOS. It definitely cements the galaxy+ scaling from the comics though.

OtherGalaxy said:

I don't even know that it's quantifiable but given he still lost to Optimus/Override/Evac/Scourge together it really makes me wonder how strong they are EOS. It definitely cements the galaxy+ scaling from the comics though.

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this is the main thing bothering me honestly i cant decide if he was sandbagging or hes just stupid idfk
cause i personally think he could be multiversal with the lock, in that it would be weird when the omega locks have all these multiversal showings that galvatron is only universal, when his goal was to tank the unicron singularity and make a new reality

but then as pointed out that means either he couldnt be that strong or optimus and everyone got just impossibly stronger in the span of a few seconds which is just madness