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Yall do know that To Aru is only banned till the respect thread is finished right? Why the hell are yall freaking out?

Im going to make a meta thread specifically for this purpose so that we can nail down whats what and future proof the whole thing for the future. Too late now dawg. We moving on now

For fucks sake guys, you cant just keep suddenly finding new information after we talk about shit for a few pages. Your confusing the hell out of me and everyone else here with this. Look, finish making your respect threads for To Aru, until then I don't wanna see another thing for to aru showing up. Yall gotta get this shit together man

Those other pocket dimensions are still just part of that universe, they aren't anything extra. If they were separate from the main universe by like some Void or pathway of some kind then yeah you'd have a argument for it. But destroying a shit ton of stuff that's still inside a singular universe wouldn't net you anything higher because it's all still just a singular universe

Destroying a universe a million times over would still only make you universal unless you did that all at once. having 100s of dimensions inside that universe doesn't change that because its all still one universe. If she had destroyed the hidden place as well it would be an argument that can be used because she destroyed a universe PLUS something else along with it. Destroying a universe and a half with one blast would easily put you at Universal+ while destroying 2 universes with one blast would put you at multiversal. She needs to do more than just pop a singular universe multiple times

Universal+ goldenboy said the hidden place being there was retconned if you destroy the universe but there's still stuff left hanging around then you'd be just universal. you have to delete the universe in its entirety with nothing but nothingness being left over to be considered for anything higher High-End Universal is fine with me.

Okay I kinda figured what I said made no sense. I was at work and typing between customers but once I get home I'll fully explain what I meant properly

Dang it omg you always post after I make a response man :hestonpls

Okay then yeah that retcon fucks it up then. If she destroyed everything and THEN made something to exist within that you'd have an argument for it but if that hidden world was already there the. She's stuck at just universal. Because we don't have a definitive scale to put the "True magic gods" at and if they are truly the top tier of the setting then at best they would have the durability and scaling of the strongest shown character in the series but just be above them slightly. The author of to aru needs to get on that shit so the ambiguity can go away and yall can just have a definitive shit for your verse cause I'd be getting frustrated with this shit

Also this is why yall need to finish that respect thread. That way yall don't have to go digging for feats you can just post the relevant part from the thread and be good to go

Rev I see you lurking. Just get in here and talk man. Me and goldenboy are talking just fine. I think irradiance is also here but I've only responded to him once so he might be super busy

Was there a point where nothing existed? See your bringing up the infinitely weakened thing and that doesn't work because of how infinity works. I could have sworn I explained this before. And don't give me "they ignore how it works" cause then that's not infinity at that point. That's some fanfiction version of infinity that has limits to it

Quick unrelated note but our observable universe is 93 billion ly. But the entire thing as minimum is estimated to be 23 trillion. I don't think there's a fiction alive that holds a candle

Okay so I'm seeing mention of some sort of black space. In order for othinus to be universal+ that black space needs to go as well. There needs to be nothing left in order to be above baseline universal, no time, no space, no existence. What's their attack power then. Just saying they can take each others attacks tells me nothing.

You keep up I said I didn't read the thread and even apologized if you guys needed to re tell me something again. Don't make me take back the apology

the way Phases are described sound more like dimensions. For a lot of dimensional stuff unless it's exactly stated or shown to be universes sized, we don't normally peg them as being universal iirc. Otherwise we would have universe level kaguya and shit because her dimensions had stars and gravity and time, etc. Is there any quotes or anything explicitly calling these dimensions "universe sized" in anyway? With marvel these are easy to find

That tells me nothing about their durability

What kinda durability do the top tiers of to aru even have. Like I said, I haven't read most of this thread so sorry if you gotta retell me stuff @Thegoldenboy2188 @Irradiance

I mean doesn't genis kill like 99% of the verse by blowing up the planet just off rip?