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I don't see what Armada Starscream could do to DBS characters

assuming that is Mortarion, how strong is he?

dont worry they can take the transformers method (not actually research it and say that they did) then it will be fair :tupac

probably just an outlier, the rest of the movie comics don't suggest Optimus, Megatron, etc. are anywhere near universal.

bayformers Fallen is just one of the countless real The Fallen's avatars, so you can just scale it up to the whole similar to Liege Maximo absorbing hundreds of millions of souls and such or the Enigma of Combination manipulating millions and millions of souls and minds in IDW. In a straightforward fight for the comic bayformers Fallen though it would just give him obscenely high mental hax resistance/feats, iirc he was able to instantly kill several of the other Primes after amping himself on the neural network. I'm not sure on the All Spark stuff as far as the movie comics though, I haven't read that yet.

if we're talking the real The Fallen then at least equal to Vector Prime's true form and on par with Solus Prime's true form which is in the order of being able to stop calamities that tl;dr would destroy an infinite number of multiverses in shorthand, and Solus shattered the Star Saber which can destroy the TF main multiverse, which contains an endless amount of generating multiverses, and immeasurable speed as the 13 all exist outside of time and space, alongside immortality, resistance to existence erasure, soulfuck on a massive way scaling from Liege Maximo and Nexus Prime, the 13 are kind of a big wall within TF for most characters put up against the setting and outside of the Royal Knights from Digimon I don't know of a single fair matchup for them. But this is all for their real forms, they have avatar bodies that vary wildly in strength, but The Fallen appears so infrequently I'm not aware of any avatars that are a good fight for an Ultraman. Dreamwave and Bayformers...

Fallen should solo Ultraman but I don’t blame people for not knowing since he barely ever actually shows up

wow hope everyone affected by this is able to find work

isnt Q only universal??? I see the thematic ties but man he is fucked

it’s rwby so i cant imagine it being strong enough to win against pretty much anything

i dont even think he was being serious at all. he later says the same thing and starts talking about “Vulcans” not Kryptonians. Think he just wanted to rile people up lol

“BOTW Link VS The Tarnished (The Legend of Zelda VS Elden Ring)- “They were pretty popular in the same year”. Sam thinks TOTK is overrated (he says it’s a 7/10), which Ben strongly disagrees with.” Tarnished should stomp any version of Link afaik Shadow of the Erdtree looks like it’s only going to make ER stronger since it’s an entire parallel realm with its own sun and moon that was forcibly separated from the universe

Malenia solos RoR as it is

you can only scale UT Galvatron to universe(+++ or whatever) the Singularity does/would have destroyed everything in the TF multiverse, but it does this in a sort of weird way. It does it across time and space and distorts history while doing it. What Galvatron actually says in the episode is that he will survive the destruction of “this universe” and create a new one. And he is right, he could have. Omega Locks even have casually multiversal feats in other stories, he wasn’t BSing. But it’s not the same as tanking or overpowering the entire thing, which only an avatar of Primus was shown to do. As far as the 17D stuff that’s technically true for the whole thing. You can argue for higher “dimensionally” but it’s vague. Ichikawa did say recently that the Alternity ascending to the 10th/11th dimensions was only “a few steps up” so it seems like there’s a lot more higher dimensions to an unknown degree, but he deliberately said he didn’t want to specify how many. There’s that one...

you know what in some really fucked up way maybe you could scale him high with the Sword of Primus stuff from Regeneration: One but uhhhhhhhh

what the hell hot rod doing there

even without the dimensional aspect there are numerous infinite multiverses in TTGL…which Simon scales directly to, I know cardinals don’t work that way but tothe average person two multiverses>one. Simon beats his ass by any metric

although characters in Cybertron also just randomly get stronger for no reason sometimes so

Vector Prime sandbagging moment 🤷 he does it a lot in the last episodes Vector’s disembodied spirit alone very casually stops Galvatron’s full power and Rhisling disintegrates him with one strike when Optimus uses it

Rhisling one-shotted Galvatron at least so there’s that