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Uh, I have no idea. I don't even know what series this is lol

Yeah, and Trunks has immense strength. That doesn't change the fact that it's a tool and because it has a smaller profile it's going to multiply his pressure. He doesn't need to hit "hard enough to destroy a planet", he just needs to hit hard enough the edge of the blade has equivalent-or-greater pressure. I like, don't think you're stupid. I think if this argument was instead "Why can Wolverine cut the Hulk when Wolverine isn't nearly as strong as the Hulk" you would immediately recognize the issue here. Anyways, I also don't think Chaos' calcs are very good. I don't really care about discussing them, though, for much the same reason I don't really care about discussing the Attack Pods. That being: This is where the argument started from. I also think this is the point that you are most obviously overlooking key issues with, so if you aren't really willing to address those here I don't see why adding more elements to the mix would be more productive Even within the blog itself...

To be clear, you're simultaneously arguing both that Trunks is strong enough to destroy a planet with his fists but also that he can't swing a sword with planet-destroying force?

I don't know why you're using "a sword strike" like this is an objective and absolute form of measurement. A sword is just a tool for multiplying pressure (opposite to how levers and hydraulics multiply force by shortening the work). Why do you think he has it in the first place? If the sword has an impact profile a thousand times smaller in area than Trunk's fist, then it will apply a thousand times as much pressure. Even if Frieza requires "planetary forces" to split in half, that it's being done with a sword still greatly decreases the amount of physical effort needed on Trunk's part to do so. That's what a blade is for. You can cut down a tree with an axe, but not your fist. It's not like the body just generates more energy when swinging an axe than it would any other blunt object, though. To be clear, Frieza takes a minute portion of Namek exploding (you don't disagree with this), this is then reduced further on Trunks' end by the use of a blade (you seem to disagree with...

I wanted to bring this up earlier, but the fact that any fragments remain at all puts kind of a firm upper limit on how intense the explosion could be at Frieza's location lol. Like, without getting into any math, if there's remaining fragments and debris then that means that definitionally the explosion had to have left chunks of rock surviving in some form. All this would then mean is that Frieza is some several times as durable as those rock pieces are (and, in fact, may have even been shielded by one).

Frieza would be enduring magnitudes less energy (as explained here), Trunks is strong (I never denied this), and a sword multiplies how effective this force is. This isn't just true on a human scale, this is true in general. The smaller an area force is applied over the greater the pressure will be. Side-stepping this by pointing out that a punch can also kill someone isn't actually addressing this, it's just dishonest handwaving.

I think you recognize that it'd probably be better to be punched in the face with a hundred Joules than to be stabbed in the face with a hundred Joules. Energy isn't everything that exists- it's not even everything that exists only counting Joules. Your microwave puts out more energy per second than Mike Tyson can strike with. Would you rather Mike Tyson wail on you for 5 seconds or stand in a microwave for an equal amount of time?

Yeah. How big do you think planets are, and how big do you think Frieza is? Is this like, bait.

Yeah, but it decreases. If you take a cubic meter of a 100 kg mass, spread it out over ten cubic meters, then you've decreased its density by a factor of 10. The mass is still the same, but the density is changed. I don't know why you keep bringing up Frieza being on the ground or in the ocean or whatever like this matters all that much. A planet is thousands of miles wide, do you think being somewhat underwater is going to increase energy density billions of times over? Just to do some more math for you, suppose Frieza's planet-destroying blast contains "10^36 J" and is "a cubic meter" in volume. The exact figures here are irrelevant (like I said before, explosions losing intensity over distance is true regardless of how strong you think Frieza is). As it expands to the size of the planet (rapidly, given that it's an explosion) this volume will increase to about 10^21 cubic meters, and will accordingly decrease the energy density by that same amount. What was once 10^36 J/m^3 is...

Nnnno, this is a function of geometry, not explosive mechanics. Like, sorry, you're just wrong here lol. All an explosion is is an expansion of energy. If the energy is expanding in volume while remaining constant, what do you think is happening to its density? I suppose you could argue that the explosion is retaining energy density despite increasing in volume because of magic ki but then you'd also just be arguing that the explosion's yield has nothing to do with Frieza's input at all. Yeah, Cold is weaker than Frieza, who is weaker than Trunks, who is weaker(?) than Goku. Duh? Swords will cut things better if swung by stronger people. I don't know what your point is?

I mean, yeah. Regardless of what happened to Namek (and I don't think it was turned to dust) Frieza would be taking a minute portion of the blast. It starts from the center of the planet and expands outwards to his torso, which is more than likely not much more than a square meter or two in area. Assuming Namek is the size of the Earth, that would be somewhere between 250-500 trillionths of the blast. To be clear, this is still objectively true regardless of how powerful you do or don't think Frieza is. Similarly, yeah, Trunk's sword is sharp. It doesn't even have to be supernaturally sharp, it can just be "sharp" to the extent that it visibly is. If it's, I don't know, a millimeter in width at the blade it would still be hundreds of times better at conveying force than Trunk's fist. I don't know what Goku has to do with this.

I don't see the contradiction here? It's a sharp sword, Trunks is strong, and Frieza is only taking a small portion of the blast. Like, at absolute worst you could just say "piercing =/= blunt" I guess, but I don't think that's really necessary. Also The post is written at a 12th grade level lol

Fair enough tbh

Ok I think after clarifying like 3 times if you think I said "Black Panther >> Surfer" you are just retarded lol no getting around it

Um... ok

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I mean, I guess? I think the post is pretty good, personally. There's a few potshots in there, yeah, but it's not like you're immune to those either. You're literally doing an extended ad hominem right now, lol. If the idea of calling something clownish behavior is  that stressful to you I guess I can avoid it, but I think you're being rather one-sided in its application. You are, literally, posting in a thread titled "Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments". I mean, what exactly do you want me to say? "Yeah, Mook was out of line in that post where you can see he was infracted for being out-of-line"? This isn't relevant to the point I'm making at all. I'm saying you're overreacting, misinterpreting his posts, and that you spend a lot of time stewing over stuff that ultimately isn't that big of a deal. Posting a bunch of pages of people being kind of mean to you several years ago (and getting punished for it!) doesn't contradict or interact with what I'm saying at all, it just...

Can you genuinely not tell the difference between a guy saying "killing a God is strong" in a non-battleboarding context and "the title of God has no inherent meaning" within one? Like, can you explain to me what you think these contexts are, and why you think they're equivalent? I don't think you're stupid or anything, I'm sure you can tell the difference, I just think you're very emotionally invested in this and it's warping how you perceive what is otherwise completely normal behavior. You are linking shit from 4, sometimes even 5 years ago. I think I'm justified in saying you seem bizarrely fixated on SB for someone who hasn't really engaged with its VS-scene for genuine years. I understand not wanting to always engage in every argument. I'll dip out of threads if I find it stressful or if I just have other things to do. But you post about SB a lot and basically never interact with it outside of the Technical Forum, and even within that you practically never engage with any...

Yes, as a Vs Debater. The thread wasn't a Vs Debate thread. Hence, Mook isn't making a Vs argument. This was the point of my post. Mook is just like, posting a thing he thinks is cool. It's 2 sentences and a picture, he's not making any arguments or claims there lol. When you try and turn this back around into an argument about JJK and MHA and Fate (things that nobody has even mentioned?) you aren't helping your point that this doesn't come across as extremely kneejerky reactions to what is ultimately a normal guy discussing media the way a normal person does.

There's no hypocrisy here, it's not a thread about Vs Debating. All that thread is for is for posting pictures of cool weapons, and all that post is is him saying "This weapon is so powerful is can kill a god". Do you think he means every god, or do think he's just gushing about some media he likes? Do you even know what series it is? Like, okay. Vader feels more powerful in the Rogue One scene than does, I don't know, Captain Ginyu. I don't think Vader beating up a hallway full of random dudes is a better feat than what Captain Ginyu does, we're just talking about completely different things. The Fox Quicksilver scene "feels faster" than when Sonic runs to the ocean and back in his movie, that doesn't mean it is faster. I mean, it's not a coincidence that Kratos is often seen as extremely powerful outside of battleboarding contexts because he "kills gods". "God" has a certain amount of cultural weight to it, and also typically implies a lot of relative power (I.E., that they're...