Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

Overlord gets wiped from the Planet, I still do not understand why they keep pitting Fate vs. Overlord when Overlord has been consistently a series that likes to pretend it's D&D but has no clue on how that works.

Xhominid The Fool said:

Floor Guardians and Ainz (Overlord) vs Round Table (Fate)

Floor Guardians and Ainz vs Artoria Pendragon (no Avalon) Gawain Lancelot (Saber) Tristan Mordred Agravaine Bedivere Percival location: An uninhabited city at morning di giorno at morning Distance: 20 m In character No outside help Classic equipment To the death no knowledge on either...

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Overlord gets wiped from the Planet, I still do not understand why they keep pitting Fate vs. Overlord when Overlord has been consistently a series that likes to pretend it's D&D but has no clue on how that works.

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Tiamat and Takhisis be like "Would you like my Avatars to use their Arcane and godlike abilities or not? Your choice."

Papa Nier said:

Tiamat and Takhisis be like "Would you like my Avatars to use their Arcane and godlike abilities or not? Your choice."

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Like let's actually look at the defense for Overlord right now:

I'm assuming that for the Nazarick side you're only using the folks in the pic and not the actual floor guardians. Otherwise Victim gg's, and Sebas shouldn't even be there. And that banning time stop extends to all alternative forms of time manipulation that would let them practically do the same thing (frost, accelerator, etc).

And you really can't give anything but grail level shit for servants huh?

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1. He legit believes Victim is going to impede Servants when:
A) Artoria and Mordred have Instinct which basically is Precognition to an extremely heavy and bad feeling so they won't activate Victim
B) Nothing has shown that Servants would be affected by Victim's extreme status effects(To put this into context, Serenity's poison which can absolutely MELT normal Humans, Metals and other shit... will just debuff a Servant, she has to go completely all in just to affect Servants, meanwhile Mordred had to fully inhale alot of Hydra Venom which can straight up liquify humans by INHALING IT'S FUMES and it still taken quite a bit for her to nearly die from that).

And then complains when he banned Time Stop when the big problem that always comes from Overlord is HOW STRONG the Time Stop actually is in comparison to shit like Norikata Emiya's Time stop? Which is why that shit is consistently banned as of late when it comes to Fate vs. Overlord.

The usual counter is the fact that Overlord characters can teleport and we've seen characters without teleportation dodge super nukes before. Or interrupt them. (Iskander, Medusa, Kojiro, the Hassans, etc etc)

Mind at this level we're looking at 8* fucking nukes being infinitely spammed because the OP enables the infinite mana cheat for every match. Though they would kinda have to worry about hitting each other but whatever.

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"How dare the TC give them Grail level mana meanwhile I'm pretending that they can just easily teleport past beams that are explicitly faster than what they do in every way and nothing shows they can use Teleportation like that consistently in battle".

And when did Iskandar stop Excalibur? The fucker explicitly failed despite riding a Chariot that was able to get from 100 meters to 0 in a blink of an eye? And considering Kojirou is the most bullshit Swordsman to ever wield a sword, using him to say Overlord characters can teleport faster is just fucking hilarious.

Xhominid The Fool said:

HOW STRONG the Time Stop actually is in comparison to shit like Norikata Emiya's Time stop? Which is why that shit is consistently banned as of late when it comes to Fate vs. Overlord.

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Time Stop in D&D is a 9th level spell that most players like sorcerers and wizards can get when they are level 17, where they are pretty much demigods and have higher resistance against most supernatural and arcane effects.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...quer-of-the-stars-elden-ring-can-beat.998718/

gee I wonder who wins some cool looking dragons or a guy who fucking holds back stars for fun

Papa Nier said:

Time Stop in D&D is a 9th level spell that most players like sorcerers and wizards can get when they are level 17, where they are pretty much demigods and have higher resistance against most supernatural and arcane effects.

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So basically, it wouldn't work atleast for Overlord then? Because spells from the Age of the Gods still don't work on Saber who has A Rank Magic Resistance and even a Stasis Spell in her best area still had EMIYA be able to move in it despite his Magic Resistance being D Rank.

These people are fucking insane...
>Actually thinking a COMPOSITE RIN needs her Rho Aias Shield to defend herself against a Sozin Comet empowered Firelord Zuko.
>Even ignoring the Servant/Unlimited Codes version, she still absolutely outmatches him in every way possible even normally


But yeah apparently, THIS is somehow within Avatar's parameters...

Xhominid The Fool said:

So basically, it wouldn't work atleast for Overlord then? Because spells from the Age of the Gods still don't work on Saber who has A Rank Magic Resistance and even a Stasis Spell in her best area still had EMIYA be able to move in it despite his Magic Resistance being D Rank.

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Probably not. Most adventurers at that level can fight on par against a weakened Tiamat. And most creatures around her challenge rating can bust or fuck around with countries and continents.

Yes she did, the fact that Olympus was still there and Zeus would not want it destroyed.

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I LOVE how GaRbs is explicitly making shit up where if he even TOURED TvTropes and actually seen the scenes, he would realize that Artemis even FIRING her "Arrows" come with a lengthy cooldown she has to obey or risk damaging her Saint Graph(Her existence) firing more consistently.

Unless you want to pretend that some fucking how, she was so poorly built that even firing weakened shots still has her need to do cooldowns, I think she is consistently firing all the times at her optimal level of power(i.e. Can blast right through planets) every time...

Papa Nier said:

Probably not. Most adventurers at that level can fight on par against a weakened Tiamat. And most creatures around her challenge rating can bust or fuck around with countries and continents.

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And most Servants on the level are usually around Country, Continental or Multi-Continental so that makes it more apparent.

Xhominid The Fool said:

The Three Knight Classes(Fate) vs The 5 Kage(Naruto)

Yes she did, the fact that Olympus was still there and Zeus would not want it destroyed.

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I LOVE how GaRbs is explicitly making shit up where if he even TOURED TvTropes and actually seen the scenes, he would realize that Artemis even FIRING her "Arrows" come with a lengthy cooldown she has to obey or risk damaging her Saint Graph(Her existence) firing more consistently.

Unless you want to pretend that some fucking how, she was so poorly built that even firing weakened shots still has her need to do cooldowns, I think she is consistently firing all the times at her optimal level of power(i.e. Can blast right through planets) every time...

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Lel, Garbs is on here you know. https://onelastforum.com/members/garbs.359/

Thegoldenboy2188 said:

Lel, Garbs is on here you know. https://onelastforum.com/members/garbs.359/

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I have been knew but he won't confront me on that and he KNOWS I see him when he does shit like that.

• Dangerous Forbidden Technique: Lostbelt Artemis usually requires several minutes to charge up and fire her arrows and several hours of cooldown between uses before she can fire again safely. Keyword there being "safely" as she can charge and fire multiple consecutive shots all with the same firepower within seconds if she has to, though a shocked da Vinci notes she would have to be burning through her magic circuits to do something like that. It's key to how she killed Heracles by firing two consectutive shots. When Super Orion destroys her protective shielding, Lostbelt Artemis immediately charges and fires a shot within the seconds it take Orion to line up and launch the second shot in order to deflect it, then charges and fires two more in quick succession that require Hektor and Mandricardo's Heroic Sacrifices to deflect them and give Apollo the time he needs to turn Paris and himself into an arrow, and finally fires one last salvo in a vain attempt to stop Orion's ultimate technique.

It was even added on there AFTER the English Localization release! I know because I consistently check the TvTropes FGO page to check if they are either consistently bullshitting or not when it comes to where they get the JP info from.

If Durandal scales to blocking planet busting attacks then so does Achilles Cosmos, and in turn so would Rho Aias.

Because Durandal is stated to be as powerful as the Aegis Eclipse, which is made from Achilles' armor.
Achilles' shield is made from the same metal as his armor, Adamas, on top of being a Noble Phantasm. Both were forged by Hephaestus.
Rho Aias is explicitly said to be comparable to Achilles Cosmos.
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This many NP's scaling to blocking planet busting power makes no sense.

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Um yes GaRbs, they ABSOLUTELY WOULD SCALE BY PROXY. Why do you think Hasephestus not being able to convert the shield into an extra 3 Arrows was fucking needed to kill Lostbelt Artemis?(Hell, a single arrow could do it but he aimed to create 5 to do so)?
Lostbelt Artemis WANTED Super Orion dead as he was going to fucking KILL HER, she literally was firing at full output every single time to stop those arrows which are on the level of Divine Constructs(i.e. Planet destroyers to equaling the Sun).
This isn't even adding in that just PULLING THE BOW STRING created from Achilles Armor was destroying the Muscles and Blood vessels in the GRAND SERVANT SUPER ORION at that!
The fact that Durandal was able to block not one but 2 blasts and only vanished because Mandricardo did proved it's exactly earned it's place in power.
Vasavi Shakti primarily destroyed Achilles Kosmos because it's Anti-World AND a Divine Killer at that.

at least someone had a semblance of sanity there.

seth said:

Floor Guardians and Ainz (Overlord) vs Round Table (Fate)

There was someone that said that Shalltear can regen from being bisected and provided a clip of reality slash to prove it. When I pointed out that this was just a visual effect because the clouds behind her also looked displaced they doubled down and claimed that obviously the clouds were also...

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at least someone had a semblance of sanity there.

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And sadly, he's gonna get walked over because "How DARE you speak those words of Fate actually being where it is! They are Subsonic and barely Wall level goddamnit!"

>Dabi literally just killed Anna
>Actually believe Dabi's speed matters to a girl who was able to create a virtual Ice Age over an entire Country for potentially days to years.
These people are so fucking stupid, I swear...