Some calcs of Tengen and Gyutaro's speed.
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Like... I'm honestly flabbergasted that anyone would use this as a comparison tool.
No one EVER counts how many attacks happened based on fucking frames, that never fucking works since animators are never fucking consistent with that sort of deal(Especially with the further animation flubs that can happen during it).
People only ever use frames to see how fast animators mean to make something happen onscreen to make it really fast(like Lasers or Lightning), this truly does just come off as ludicrously absurd to ever use for a debate of any kind.