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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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It really shows these fuckers can't read...
How the hell can you actually get that there is an observer during this sentence structure:
At that instant to an observer at that point, it would appear as if they're under the illusion that the surrounding environment's time stopped.
When it's obvious that no one was observing shit, it was the fact that it was describing IF an Observer was looking at the fight(Especially considering the rest of the sentence doesn't even fit with Lightspeed Bleach to begin with).
 
that's why I said the official translations made their case worse, even if Hikone is some kind of plural entity that wording still definitely refers to an outsider
 
that's why I said the official translations made their case worse, even if Hikone is some kind of plural entity that wording still definitely refers to an outsider

Honestly, this feels like something I would see to discredit shit from the Nasuverse in SB(Rin couldn't possibly move as fast as a blur to the Human Eye because it didn't say that someone else was watching her... despite the narration fully describing how that would be to someone trying to see her move that fast)...

That's not an obvious good thing and tells you how hard FV has declined.
 
Its pretty clear Madaras Raindrops are far bigger.

In a sense it is but the issue is that Kishimoto's perspective has always been shit at times to where the general sizes are prone to changing on a dime and never be as big or large as they actually should be.

But in the case of Tatsumaki's, they use an even WORSE perspective shot with the City barely in the shot to even make a similar comparison in the first place.
 

location: An uninhabited Island
Distance: 10 m
For Fate you can use Manga, Anime, Game and Light Novel
In character
No outside help
Classic equipment
To the death
no knowledge on either side.
no preparation
Shirou (Fate rout) has avalon
Shirou (UBW) has Rin's mana
Shirou (Miyuverse) has Miyu's mana but not the card
Shirou (HF) has Archer's arm

Fate Shirou does nothing but die, since Avalon is useless without Saber around. UBW Shirou is there as support shooting blades from the distance and setting up UBW, HF Shirou is only there to land a killing blow to any RWBY member who's been trapped/hurt/knocked down.

Miyuverse Shirou is the only one who'll be on the offensive since he's got the most animesque style of fighting with the giant swords and using NP after NP. Especially since he's got Miyu's mana in him.

I think UBW is the thing that wins it for Team Shirou. Against Gil he used to counter GoB but here he has nothing of that magnitude to stop him from using it offensively. He might even have enough leftover juice in the tank to actually activate an NP since there are other people covering his back this time

To be fair Fate Shirou can project Caliburn as well and copy Saber's skills to some extent. He was capable of matching Berserker blow for blow for a bit so he is not completely useless.

:lolwat

RWBY wank is beginning to fly off the scale and the Nasuverse Downplay continues to reach new heights...
Every other Shirou is useless and NEEDS UBW to win... despite being able to keep up with Heracles and Gilgamesh in combat. Miyuverse Shirou is the only Shirou capable of fighting RWBY despite Miyuverse Shirou is literally no different than any other Shirou past being a Discount Archer.
Like holy shit, don't tell any of these people that:

1. If Shirou can keep up with Gilgamesh and Heracles in the Fate Route with projecting Caliburn, NO ONE in RWBY that is the Brother Gods is touching him(Especially since we have seen him do projections in this route start and finish before Heracles can complete a swing to hit him).

2. Shirou doesn't NEED Unlimited Blade Works to defeat any of these 4 bimbos, UBW is a fucking Reality Marble and his Structural Analysis and Projection are canonically a part of it and he copies any weapon he sees on the fly as well as their stats at that. He would murder them with just Banshou & Byakuya alone

3. Heaven's Feel Shirou having Archer's Arm allows him to fully use and replicate the skills and even Noble Phantasms of those he copies. He literally Nine Lives them to death.
 
from quora: ''batman is at literally the peak of human physical and knows it all, he is able to Bench over 2,000lbs(1.5 ton) on the daily, and Leg Press 2,500lbs (1.85 tons).''

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few more peak human feats for that ''peak human'' lad bruce
 

Cinder with full Maiden Power stomps.

She's fast enough to have a full fight on falling rocks and clashing magic swords with a peer shook a mountain.

Her fire attacks are pretty potent, and judging from the Troupes reaction to Feitans Pain Packer, that being to skedaddle, I don't see any of them being able to take a hit.

Outside of Cinder, the rest of the group quickly overwhelms the Troupe. Kurapika's a Conjurer, and he didn't think he'd be able to block a bullet / bullets from a 9mm unscathed.

And called it, it's already fucking GROSS, especially since, you know, all of that shit is WRONG.
She's fast enough to have a full fight on falling rocks and clashing magic swords with a peer shook a mountain.

Uvogin literally hit the ground with such force that it fucking EXPLODED and came off like a Nuke hit the area and again, Cinder and Raven didn't shake "a Mountain", they shook a cavern underneath a mansion that didn't affect anything else.

Her fire attacks are pretty potent, and judging from the Troupes reaction to Feitans Pain Packer, that being to skedaddle, I don't see any of them being able to take a hit.

Feitan literally became the equivalent of a fucking STAR, the fact we are equalizing Cinders flames to being stronger than that is fucking criminal.

Outside of Cinder, the rest of the group quickly overwhelms the Troupe. Kurapika's a Conjurer, and he didn't think he'd be able to block a bullet / bullets from a 9mm unscathed.

Uvogin literally ate a fucking Bullet then a Rocket Launcher to the face and Kurapika only killed him due to the PRECISE bullshit he has made him superior to the Spiders ONLY. That's not how this fucking works.
 
from quora: ''batman is at literally the peak of human physical and knows it all, he is able to Bench over 2,000lbs(1.5 ton) on the daily, and Leg Press 2,500lbs (1.85 tons).''

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few more peak human feats for that ''peak human'' lad bruce
Looks like something us everyday folks do just need to stretch first of course
 
This seriously reminds me when Siriel or GaRbs speaks about the Nasuverse and I'm like "Even fucking REDDITORS know the series has gotten massive powercreep since" :mjlol

They only "pretend" they are fans and are knowledgeable(When they either lie, bullshit or literally has to get told and shown obvious proof of something to believe it) to make it easier to downplay the series when it comes to certain VS. battles(like One Punch Man for GaRbs or virtually anything Siriel wants to win for the other side).
The sad thing is he used to be a legitimately good TES debator, but then something happened (around the time of him joining SV) he started going downhill, saying Dovahkiin was building level at best, saying that Sotha Sil wasn't universal and how the Princes where just background forces who weren't even town level outside their realms (friends of mine who are also into TES foresaw all of these downplays coming too). It then reached a point where he made a "respect" thread where he claimed to be taking a "mid-tier view" of TES while blatantly downplaying and pandering to notorious downplayers (even claiming in other threads that he made the thread to "stop misinformation"). It's reached the point that even random sign ups can tell that he's needlessly taking TES powerlevels too seriously and "counter downplaying."

I've been tempted to go through his "respect" thread and point out how it's not only nitpicky & misleading, but outright dishonest and deliberately misleading, but almost every sentence is wrong, and that's energy I could better focus elsewhere (I'm making a masterpost in my own thread which I hope will dispel all of the downplay (although the usual downplayers will probably ignorie it, I know my thread is seen off SB, even in non-vs places, where as his thread is made to pander to SB).

That was kind of a rant, TL;DR, debating TES on SB was traumatic.
 
The sad thing is he used to be a legitimately good TES debator, but then something happened (around the time of him joining SV) he started going downhill, saying Dovahkiin was building level at best, saying that Sotha Sil wasn't universal and how the Princes where just background forces who weren't even town level outside their realms (friends of mine who are also into TES foresaw all of these downplays coming too). It then reached a point where he made a "respect" thread where he claimed to be taking a "mid-tier view" of TES while blatantly downplaying and pandering to notorious downplayers (even claiming in other threads that he made the thread to "stop misinformation"). It's reached the point that even random sign ups can tell that he's needlessly taking TES powerlevels too seriously and "counter downplaying."

I've been tempted to go through his "respect" thread and point out how it's not only nitpicky & misleading, but outright dishonest and deliberately misleading, but almost every sentence is wrong, and that's energy I could better focus elsewhere (I'm making a masterpost in my own thread which I hope will dispel all of the downplay (although the usual downplayers will probably ignorie it, I know my thread is seen off SB, even in non-vs places, where as his thread is made to pander to SB).

That was kind of a rant, TL;DR, debating TES on SB was traumatic.

That's the same thing with Crimsonslayer of ComicVine who, while the entire place has people who consistently believe CCC Servants are somehow Multiversal but then somehow believe other versions are somehow just Building and Supersonic level which doesn't work in canon) but he takes it to a level and beyond.

He somehow believes that Shiki Ryougi and a majority of the Humans/Dead Apostles in KnK and Tsukihime completely outperform Servants and has the "proof" from Nasu's interviews and it's so blatantly dishonest, you wonder if he has ever seen anything in his life. And that's not even getting into the real subject that is Void Shiki, who he somehow has pegged at OUTERVERSAL and has people believing that shit. The truly messed up part is he made a fucking Respect Thread that has so many elements wrong or misrepresented that it hurts:

One of the examples he uses is that Sion scales above Servants because Red Arcuied used her Marble Phantasm to drop the Moon on her and she survived and Shiki Tohno took her out and Shiki Ryougi is able to easily beat him and thus Shiki Ryougi >>> Servants despite:
1. Sion wasn't herself at that point, she was a clone of TATARI and thus WAY above her usual power levels.
2. Sion explicitly can regenerate herself from nothing(FGO even shows her do this in JP in a spoiler) so she wouldn't even need to tank it as her regen is stupid high
3. If I remember correctly, she wasn't all that up there when Shiki Tohno beat her.

And even worse, he uses Shiki Ryougi killing 100 Servants to prove Shiki Ryougi >>> Servants in Fate/Extra CCC Bonus Battle despite again it's heavily implied she never fought a single one straight up until that boss battle(Which probably was a similar deal).

The Respect Thread was such a damn mess and he then had the Audacity when I pointed my problems to someone who knew "the truth" of Servant standings... from fucking r/whowouldwin(Which all of the proof was from Fate/Stay fucking Night and the thread was only 8 months old from the few months ago I saw it... from a near 20 year old VN)

VS. Debates can bring the absolute worst out of people.
 
That's the same thing with Crimsonslayer of ComicVine who, while the entire place has people who consistently believe CCC Servants are somehow Multiversal but then somehow believe other versions are somehow just Building and Supersonic level which doesn't work in canon) but he takes it to a level and beyond.

He somehow believes that Shiki Ryougi and a majority of the Humans/Dead Apostles in KnK and Tsukihime completely outperform Servants and has the "proof" from Nasu's interviews and it's so blatantly dishonest, you wonder if he has ever seen anything in his life. And that's not even getting into the real subject that is Void Shiki, who he somehow has pegged at OUTERVERSAL and has people believing that shit. The truly messed up part is he made a fucking Respect Thread that has so many elements wrong or misrepresented that it hurts:

One of the examples he uses is that Sion scales above Servants because Red Arcuied used her Marble Phantasm to drop the Moon on her and she survived and Shiki Tohno took her out and Shiki Ryougi is able to easily beat him and thus Shiki Ryougi >>> Servants despite:
1. Sion wasn't herself at that point, she was a clone of TATARI and thus WAY above her usual power levels.
2. Sion explicitly can regenerate herself from nothing(FGO even shows her do this in JP in a spoiler) so she wouldn't even need to tank it as her regen is stupid high
3. If I remember correctly, she wasn't all that up there when Shiki Tohno beat her.

And even worse, he uses Shiki Ryougi killing 100 Servants to prove Shiki Ryougi >>> Servants in Fate/Extra CCC Bonus Battle despite again it's heavily implied she never fought a single one straight up until that boss battle(Which probably was a similar deal).

The Respect Thread was such a damn mess and he then had the Audacity when I pointed my problems to someone who knew "the truth" of Servant standings... from fucking r/whowouldwin(Which all of the proof was from Fate/Stay fucking Night and the thread was only 8 months old from the few months ago I saw it... from a near 20 year old VN)

VS. Debates can bring the absolute worst out of people.
The short of it is, I don't understand why people get so awful, spiteful and in some cases outright evil over fictional dad fights.
 
The short of it is, I don't understand why people get so awful, spiteful and in some cases outright evil over fictional dad fights.

I have no legit idea either. Like seriously, SB be on an entirely different level with RWBY which... concerns me with how hard they wank it when another major RWBY subreddit(RWBYCritics) has consistently wondered why SB puts it on such a pedestal constantly.

Like there's nothing after Volume 3 that ever makes any sense why they would do that at all yet they somehow still do so.
 

And here's the honestly terrible rebuttal:

Because Kurapika has some proficiency with Gyo despite being a Conjurer. None of the other members of the Troupe have feats on chrollo's level, nor are they Enhancers like Uvo (Outside of Nobu and Phinks, and even they weren't as strong as him), so it seems like an apt comparison.

Meanwhile everyone in Salems faction are bullet-timers and have a personal forcefield.

This is literally the dumbest comparison I have ever seen... Uvogin literally ate a fucking bullet... that would make him a bullet timer, all of the Spiders have consistently dodged gunfire without a problem, how is Chrollo the only one who you SEEN dodge bullets?

I acknowledged this.
>About Uvogin catching a bullet with his teeth.
No you didn't, we have you on 4-fucking-K explicitly trying to lie about that.
Outside of Cinder, the rest of the group quickly overwhelms the Troupe. Kurapika's a Conjurer, and he didn't think he'd be able to block a bullet / bullets from a 9mm unscathed.

Can I see a scan for this?

>Needing scans to see Feitan literally dodging bullets while running towards those shooting at him
:skully

Which is good, but other members of Salems circle have taken strikes that can do comparable damage.


Oh boy, this will be good...

Take Yatsuhashi for example:




Mercury took this blow from Yatsuhashi, which also blasted all the water out of the vicinity:




Tyrian blocked this blow from Qrow that cut off part of a building nearby from the air pressure:



Not to mention that Full Maiden Cinder is in this fight, which makes it a stomp.

>Thinking any of this is actually impressive in the slightest
>Let's ignore that Tyrian later gets knocked out extremely easily in Volume 7 like a scrub afterwards.
:kobeha
 

Stop pretending you're a TES fan
and now the only guy who made sense was banned from the thread
 
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