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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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To be fair, Kazama Kiryu and Majima does have some bullshit feats here and there for being "normal humans" all things considered.

Anything written by Monty = universe level+, anything after is only cockroach level. - Xhom logic.

Go watch Dead Fantasy and RWBY Volume 1 or 2 and see the difference between that and Volume 4+
Monty could absolutely do bullshit high feats for characters with his animations just fine and seemed to have been setting that up with the sole fight he did with Winter and Qrow before his death in Volume 3.
It's hilarious seeing Sorceress Rinoa in Dead Fantasy 3 vs. Salem in Volume 8 and how absolute shit Salem comes off in comparison to how Monty did a true Sorceress in the former.
 
Too bad they got those post death downgrades💀

Hey, all I'm doing is what SB loves to do to other series...
Except we actually have integrity and only do this downgrade because let's be frank:
There's no way you can try and pretend Blake didn't get so downgraded from being able to handle herself against the Arc Villain fine(Roman Torchwick) to failing miserably against a basic Grimm for no reason(yeah sure, she tagged Adam once in Volume 5 but that was peak downplay for Adam and their final battle had her be helpless against the same person she oneshot a Volume ago and suddenly Yang became super tough against him despite effortlessly losing a limb... who was then instantly one shot in her Semblance form by Neo, a character that wasn't able to easily take down Yang in even worst conditions in a single attack.)

You see how much the rabbit hole goes down from and that's only from watching Reviews of the various seasons or episodes. Characters are literally only as strong as the plot demands now, let alone what their character even is at that moment.
 
Hey, all I'm doing is what SB loves to do to other series...
Except we actually have integrity and only do this downgrade because let's be frank:
There's no way you can try and pretend Blake didn't get so downgraded from being able to handle herself against the Arc Villain fine(Roman Torchwick) to failing miserably against a basic Grimm for no reason(yeah sure, she tagged Adam once in Volume 5 but that was peak downplay for Adam and their final battle had her be helpless against the same person she oneshot a Volume ago and suddenly Yang became super tough against him despite effortlessly losing a limb... who was then instantly one shot in her Semblance form by Neo, a character that wasn't able to easily take down Yang in even worst conditions in a single attack.)

You see how much the rabbit hole goes down from and that's only from watching Reviews of the various seasons or episodes. Characters are literally only as strong as the plot demands now, let alone what their character even is at that moment.
I only watched RvB so i'll just assume what you're saying is correct. :jeff
 

And like I said, it's hilarious no one is actually agreeing with him because his takes are that bad. Though like Type-Rey stated, they should be throwing his ass out rather than continually entertaining him showing how bad the site is getting but for his rebuttal:

I'm sorry isn't the entire point of vs debates to use feats to debate characters without author/director intent? You have an entire section for calcing feats. But then go around and try and use author/director intent that contradicts the actual feat so you can have lightning timing Spiderman?

He really has no idea how the OBD(Yeah I know Fanverse isn't the OBD but just throwing that out there) does things, does he?
Yes, we don't always go with Word of God in every case, HOWEVER, we DO go with Word of God if the scene in question is meant to be their actual intent without any contradictions(i.e. If the characters are meant to be lightspeed and the story dictates it as such, then they are Lightspeed, no questions asked). This is the same reason people mocked CW's The Flash when it came to acting like Barry Allen is still stuck in Mach 2-3 and yet can literally go back in time which would basically need him to be FTL in the first place, THAT'S a contradiction and would mean Barry is FTL, not Mach 2-3 like the show states.

And again, you can actually apply this to every other show in fiction because again, none of them properly show the levels of damage or otherwise he's trying to use here(like in Bleach, you can literally say no one is higher than City level by what we are SHOWN by that logic... but we know that they will ignore that hard).

Like I asked a dude to give me feats on Electro's lightning. This is what I got.
1. You are using someone's calcs who has a dubious reputation.
2. You are actually trying to ask someone else to calc how they calc'd Lightning use without asking where or how they got it from or why they hit the conclusion they did.
This is like geniunely believing that Candice's attack on Ginjou in Bleach's Novel is suddenly Lightning Speed despite nothing showing that's actual Lightning at all(and yes, you can say it's still "Magic Lightning" even if the text says it's actual Lightning due to how souls operate in Bleach).

Apparently, his best feat with his lightning is moving at Mach 3! And his lightning moves slower than bullets! You can't tell me that Spiderman can move at apparently relativistic speeds when you got shit like this.

Okay so again, bullets are useless in RWBY, Worm is nigh-unuseable and Magical Index is basically kiddie pool level by that metric right? Because Electro uses Electricity and actually operates from the Electromagnetic Spectrum, there's nothing else to say but that.
 

Why?! Why is this a thing? Who the fuck matches up to her in either series?!
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This image alone has her solo virtually everyone there even BEFORE we get to what she does in the actual Manga, which includes her being legit FTL. She's fucking overkill compared to anyone worth a damn in both series at once.
 

Why?! Why is this a thing? Who the fuck matches up to her in either series?!
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This image alone has her solo virtually everyone there even BEFORE we get to what she does in the actual Manga, which includes her being legit FTL. She's fucking overkill compared to anyone worth a damn in both series at once.
Doesn't Miya reach like city level or some shit with her DC? Even if they were relative to her speed, one serious swing of her sword annihilates both verses strongest simultaneously.
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And like I said, it's hilarious no one is actually agreeing with him because his takes are that bad. Though like Type-Rey stated, they should be throwing his ass out rather than continually entertaining him showing how bad the site is getting but for his rebuttal:



He really has no idea how the OBD(Yeah I know Fanverse isn't the OBD but just throwing that out there) does things, does he?
Yes, we don't always go with Word of God in every case, HOWEVER, we DO go with Word of God if the scene in question is meant to be their actual intent without any contradictions(i.e. If the characters are meant to be lightspeed and the story dictates it as such, then they are Lightspeed, no questions asked). This is the same reason people mocked CW's The Flash when it came to acting like Barry Allen is still stuck in Mach 2-3 and yet can literally go back in time which would basically need him to be FTL in the first place, THAT'S a contradiction and would mean Barry is FTL, not Mach 2-3 like the show states.

And again, you can actually apply this to every other show in fiction because again, none of them properly show the levels of damage or otherwise he's trying to use here(like in Bleach, you can literally say no one is higher than City level by what we are SHOWN by that logic... but we know that they will ignore that hard).


1. You are using someone's calcs who has a dubious reputation.
2. You are actually trying to ask someone else to calc how they calc'd Lightning use without asking where or how they got it from or why they hit the conclusion they did.
This is like geniunely believing that Candice's attack on Ginjou in Bleach's Novel is suddenly Lightning Speed despite nothing showing that's actual Lightning at all(and yes, you can say it's still "Magic Lightning" even if the text says it's actual Lightning due to how souls operate in Bleach).



Okay so again, bullets are useless in RWBY, Worm is nigh-unuseable and Magical Index is basically kiddie pool level by that metric right? Because Electro uses Electricity and actually operates from the Electromagnetic Spectrum, there's nothing else to say but that.

Something something one of the writers for RWBY claimed that Ruby moved at relativistic speeds with her semblance. There's a balance to using WoG and not using it.
 
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