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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

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Floor Guardians and Ainz (Overlord) vs Round Table (Fate)

Ainz probably isn't gonna try activating it without time stop here, sinse the guardians are with him his best bet to abuse their mobility and long ranged attacks while he sits in background and supports them with summons and buffs.
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12 pages... and everyone is just done with the vs battle as a whole(and to be fair, I cannot blame them, it's just a travesty especially when it consistently turns into "Fate can't do this but Overlord can do this. How can Overlord do that? Screw you, that's how!" and stays an enormous clusterfuck.
 


I was going to just say "oh, they're game journalists, of course they don't know what they're talking about", and then I noticed this:
In The Lady of the Lake novel, Geralt of Rivia reacted to a lightning bolt, dodging it at the last second. This gives us the impression that he can move faster than the speed of light.
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W-what? How? :rock
 


Goes into how VSB can't be trusted but fucking Spacebattles and WhoWouldWin is more trustworthy...
They also bring up how it's "piss easy" to Time Travel in the Moon Cell(Despite it was SE.RA.PH. it was done in, not the Moon Cell... they may have talked about FTL but that's not true either...)which was never what BB said.

And while some of the stuff they do bring up has some merit(EMIYA not being able to create Divine Constructs everywhere but the Moon Cell), stating that Servants are x10 stronger is a load of bullshit(They are just at their maximum level of power, that's it) as well as the Sakura Five is gimped outside of the Moon Cell(They explicitly AREN'T, even Kingprotea's Noble Phantasm allows her to bypass the limits the Real World stresses on her and no one else is gimped in the slightest).

It's always fucking weird as it seems to be on and off in the GrandOrder Reddit whether Servants are weak as piss or legit strong as shit with no real middle ground despite playing the freaking game.
 
Xhominid The Fool said:


Goes into how VSB can't be trusted but fucking Spacebattles and WhoWouldWin is more trustworthy...
They also bring up how it's "piss easy" to Time Travel in the Moon Cell(Despite it was SE.RA.PH. it was done in, not the Moon Cell... they may have talked about FTL but that's not true either...)which was never what BB said.

And while some of the stuff they do bring up has some merit(EMIYA not being able to create Divine Constructs everywhere but the Moon Cell), stating that Servants are x10 stronger is a load of bullshit(They are just at their maximum level of power, that's it) as well as the Sakura Five is gimped outside of the Moon Cell(They explicitly AREN'T, even Kingprotea's Noble Phantasm allows her to bypass the limits the Real World stresses on her and no one else is gimped in the slightest).

It's always fucking weird as it seems to be on and off in the GrandOrder Reddit whether Servants are weak as piss or legit strong as shit with no real middle ground despite playing the freaking game.
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Half of them are there for the story and game itself and the other half is just there for the waifus. Not surprising really.
 
Flowering Knight said:
Half of them are there for the story and game itself and the other half is just there for the waifus. Not surprising really.
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True. It's just funny because it's actually VSB that's legit being fair to both characters which makes them going for either SB(Which will downplay Raikou something fierce) or WhoWouldWin(who would downplay both something fierce) very, very ironic.

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Minamoto no Raikou vs Raiden Shogun(CONCLUDED)

Purple Lightning Mom(Raikou) : 7 vs Purple Lightning Mom(Raiden) : 4 Incon (They makeout): Which mom is more purple and lightning and mom? And I guess who wins in a fight, too, if you're into that. Speed Equalized, 6-C to High 6-C keys used (May change based on how fair it is). I feel like...
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Though considering the upvotes vs. Comment Section, I wouldn't be surprised the more reasonable people stayed the fuck out of it considering it's basically a downplay fest of the highest magnitude(most likely done by people who play Genshin Impact on the side).
 
https://www.fanverse.org/threads/toshiro-hitsugaya-vs-ulquiorra-cifer.1253100/
The Hitsugaya downplay train just keeps rolling.
Rly though, no clue how anyone thinks Hitsugaya takes round 1 without some wonky scaling logic.
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Yep because scaling Base or R1 Ulquiorra's speed to his canonical superior in Harribel is totally "wonky scaling logic" as opposed to basic common sense.

But nah, some characters specialize for speed and learn advanced techniques for enhancing it, or specially sacrifice mobility (not reactions) for more power, so that means we can't scale speed with reiatsu AT ALL. Isn't that right Sables? :maybe

It's not like we literally see scenes in this series where a character's speed (usually Ichigo) increases when their reiatsu does right? So contrary to your delusions we KNOW that reiatsu has a dramatic impact on who is and isn't faster in this universe.
 
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Oh look people still making shit up for Haschwalth and then screeching about NLF being fallacious when they're called out on it. :mjpls

I love how NLF is somehow fallacious in and of itself but LITERALLY FANFICTIONING abilities for a character whose never actually done anything of the sort, is somehow fine. :hestonpls

"But - insert vague as fuck description of the ability here - muh concepts, he can totally do it, because I say so." Is literally what is going on in here.

Sure you can SPECULATE all day as to what he COULD have been capable of, but if we're having a discussion of the canonical strength of the character, you use what they have actually SHOWN and that's it. Because anything else is just headcannon, bordering on fanfiction.
 
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Escanor (SDS) vs Karna (FGO)

location: where Karna and Sieg fought In character Speed is equalized No knowledge No Prep Standard Equipment Starting Distance: same as Karna and Sieg all feats are allowed as long as they are canon victory by death or KO R1: Karna has a Rin level master R2: Karna is grailed
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>Noon Escanor > Karna
:mjlol :oldryoma

Even Ultimate Escanor gets folded like laundry.

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Orochimaru (Naruto) VS Muzan (Demon Slayer)

Muzan VS Orochimaru In character Speed equal No edo,manda,wall summons for orochimaru No knowledge No prep 40m Death Forest 8:00 pm All-sources for each version R1:4-tails fight Orochimaru vs Muzan after cocoon and drugs R2:EOS Orochimaru(Still no summons) vs Full power Muzan
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Jeez, Orochimaru is getting direspected... again.
 
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I get the feeling you look down on these two for anything outside of a gameplay standpoint.
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You shouldn't. I love all of it and I consider both the developer and writing team to be among the most competent in their field.
Hell, with Fromsoft tossing out raises to their devs/staff I'm even including the studio itself into my personal top-5 list of "this is how you make video games, bitch!".
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Miyazaki wears his influences on his sleeve but he's created some ridiculously intricate and unique lore I'll never be able to get enough of.
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Being unapologetic about shit is respectable. If I made a game based on Roald Dahl's works you bet your ass I'm gonna make the influences clear-cut.
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Thegoldenboy2188 said:
Well, I don't think you'll like what I'm doing then lel, https://onelastforum.com/threads/toaru-majutsu-no-index-feats-discussion-analysis-thread.1410/
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No one has a problem with that Goldenboy as that is exactly what most of us do and are doing right now...
What SB doesn't isn't even remotely close to that which is why we endlessly mock them for it(and even when they do make these types of threads, it doesn't even matter since they are never truly checked among their peers and they just make the most ridiculous assumptions possible).
 
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