Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 1: OBD 2027 prologue edition

[Stocking Anarchy]

i always remember this shit lol
whack ass series

This makes me vindicated in saying LWA is better than HP, because Akko actually fixes the world for the better and sticks up for magical servants to make their lives better.

Harry Potter only got as popular as it did through sheer luck and the K in JK stands for Karen.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Harry Potterverse vs Nasuverse mages

the problem with HP magic is we don't know how it works, rowling is not concerned with the mechanics of magic, she's concerned with how her characters interact, which is all fine and dandy everywhere except a vs debate for instance, you can't magic up food, there's no logical explanation for...

forums.spacebattles.com

the problem with HP magic is we don't know how it works, rowling is not concerned with the mechanics of magic, she's concerned with how her characters interact, which is all fine and dandy everywhere except a vs debate

for instance, you can't magic up food, there's no logical explanation for this, it's just a rule of magic

except wait if you already have food then you can clone it?

but also coins and so on can't be cloned or magic'd at all, the closest approximation being an illusion construct which fades within hours

physically there is no difference between coins, food and wormtail's hand so they should be treated the same but they aren't

things like this crop up A LOT within HP so essentially any argument which rests on "X is doable so Y should follow" is absolutely and completely bunk without quite a bit of good evidence that it's possible

I like how this guy explains the key issue with HP's Magic System and yet now we are supposed to pretend Fantastical Beasts fixed it when it did no such thing at all. It's still the absurd mess it is and these examples very much explain where the problems really are.

But this is the same thread where you have someone trying so hard to get Planetary Fiendfyre through because "muh NLF".

 

[Mr.OMG]

I could do a ToAru vs Harry Potter thread, that's when we'll see a battle of piss and shit.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I could do a ToAru vs Harry Potter thread, that's when we'll see a battle of piss and shit.

Jesus that would actually be hilarious.

 

[Irradiance]

And for those who want to know how fast the detonation velocity of C4 is?

C-4 (explosive) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not debating the point, but just to put the right numbers out here: The speed of explosions decays extremely fast with distance.
The shockwave of 50kg of C4 would, for example, travel the 1st meter from the origin in 0.1ms and at that point the shockwave would already have slowed to 3522.83 m/s. (source)
In practice explosion dodging feats are often less impressive than a look at the detonation velocity would suggest.

 

[Qinglong]

The explosion was pointblank

Harry Potterverse vs Nasuverse mages

the problem with HP magic is we don't know how it works, rowling is not concerned with the mechanics of magic, she's concerned with how her characters interact, which is all fine and dandy everywhere except a vs debate for instance, you can't magic up food, there's no logical explanation for...

forums.spacebattles.com

I like how this guy explains the key issue with HP's Magic System and yet now we are supposed to pretend Fantastical Beasts fixed it when it did no such thing at all. It's still the absurd mess it is and these examples very much explain where the problems really are.

But this is the same thread where you have someone trying so hard to get Planetary Fiendfyre through because "muh NLF".

That's actually Darthgrim on NF

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Not debating the point, but just to put the right numbers out here: The speed of explosions decays extremely fast with distance.
The shockwave of 50kg of C4 would, for example, travel the 1st meter from the origin in 0.1ms and at that point the shockwave would already have slowed to 3522.83 m/s. (source)
In practice explosion dodging feats are often less impressive than a look at the detonation velocity would suggest.

That may be true(Even if we ignore she is literally next to the Truck that has the Car Bomb), but we would just go into Shiki and plenty of other high tier Nasuverse Humans being able to react to Lightning Magecraft which literally recreates the phenomenon and treat it as a nuisance as well as a good number reacting to halfassing Servants.

That or Hansa being able to dust a huge ass rock literally with Black Keys:


So either way, they got plenty more nonsense for themselves.

That's actually Darthgrim on NF

Okay, that's even funnier lol.

 

[Papa Nier]

Nier vs Harry Potter. Nier would run circles around them while Grimoire Weiss just spams his magic projectiles.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Nier vs Harry Potter. Nier would run circles around them while Grimoire Weiss just spams his magic projectiles.

That's just fucking mean . Poor bastards wouldn't stand a chance at all.

 

[Papa Nier]

That's just fucking mean . Poor bastards wouldn't stand a chance at all.

I mean Nier would be respectful enough to bide by their rules in a magic duel, might magic punch them all in the face with Dark Hand though

 

[Flowering Knight]

Spellcasters in D&D and Pathfinder will show them how it's done

Now I want to see SB try to come up with ways for Voldemort to not immediately get hit by Scry and Die tactics lmao

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Now I want to see SB try to come up with ways for Voldemort to not immediately get hit by Scry and Die tactics lmao

They'll default to the "He can't die till you destroy all of his Hocruxes" nonsense despite him... dying... despite the Hocruxes and needing new bodies to even do anything at all(and being completely helpless to the point of needing Ratfoot or whoever to do anything for him).

 

[Papa Nier]

Now I want to see SB try to come up with ways for Voldemort to not immediately get hit by Scry and Die tactics lmao

Mass Suggestion: "Your wands are cursed. Drop them."

 

[Atem]

i always remember this shit lol
whack ass series

The worst part of Harry Potter will always be Harry Potter.

 

[Atem]

That's also how you could have fixed the story.

Subvert the prophecy by having him die at the beginning of the first book, and have him replaced by some random violent street urchin and career criminal. Who finally gets a taste of a normal life thanks to the wizarding world and being mistaken for Harry Potter.

Due to his history of doing anything to survive he is a practiced liar and goes along with the ruse for his own benefit. Kinda like Gilderoy Lockhart. The difference being that he is actually competent unlike Gilderoy Lockhart. Ruthless, brutal, and underhanded; he does anything to win.

He starts off as a bastard but becomes friends with the rest of the trio despite being sorted into Slytherin for obvious reasons. This softens him up, and he actually starts to care about other people. However, this never changes him completely. He is still a bastard, but a bastard who cares about his pals.

Whole time he is playing Russian roulette because Dumbledore suspects him, and he has to tread lightly around him. Unlike the real Harry Potter? He actually ends up on good terms with Snape. Since before becoming a wizard he used to dabble in poison.

Doesn't care about changing the world, but does so anyway, mostly to help out people that mean something to him. Dobby for example. Ends up annulling the whole chattel slave business by poisoning and murdering everyone in favor of it. Using his identity as "Harry Potter" to get close enough to them.

Only people who know who he is really are Hermione and Ronald.

And to balance everything out he sucks at magic, but excels at potions. Being something of a specialist who knows every kind of potion in the book.

 

[Mr.OMG]

They'll default to the "He can't die till you destroy all of his Hocruxes " nonsense despite him... dying... despite the Hocruxes and needing new bodies to even do anything at all(and being completely helpless to the point of needing Ratfoot or whoever to do anything for him).

Don't worry, IB ignored Wescott's Quasi immortality, which is quite similar to Horcrux. And then the main weapon of HP will disappear. Touma solo HP.

 

[Flowering Knight]

They'll default to the "He can't die till you destroy all of his Hocruxes" nonsense despite him... dying... despite the Hocruxes and needing new bodies to even do anything at all(and being completely helpless to the point of needing Ratfoot or whoever to do anything for him).

Yeah they might do that at first until you start listing all the broken-ass spells that basic spellcasters have, meaning that even if you wanted to argue that there are still dozens of ways for a fodder spellcaster to wreck Voldemort's shit even while adhering to that rule. Which goes to show just how top tier wizards in HP aren't shit to D&D spellcasters. Which is funny, because the gap between spellcasters and non-spellcasters in D&D itself is so wide that it actually makes for a rare interactive medium showing how most of the time hax > general power.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Yeah they might do that at first until you start listing all the broken-ass spells that basic spellcasters have, meaning that even if you wanted to argue that there are still dozens of ways for a fodder spellcaster to wreck Voldemort's shit even while adhering to that rule. Which goes to show just how top tier wizards in HP aren't shit to D&D spellcasters. Which is funny, because the gap between spellcasters and non-spellcasters in D&D itself is so wide that it actually makes for a rare interactive medium showing how most of the time hax > general power.

You are expecting that SB has the common sense to recognize that major difference though?

Again, these are the people who honestly believe they know better of series like The Monsterverse, The Nasuverse, Star Wars, etc, etc.

 

[marf]

One the topic of HP speed, I'm fairly sure this is the best calced feat we have:

Voldemort's Flight Speed

I don't know if this feat has been calc'ed yet, I haven't seen one and there is no mention of it in his profile. Please let me know if it's already done. This feat is about Voldemort interrogating and disposing Grindelwald at the Nurmengard Prison then immediately flying back to Malfoy Manor to...

www.fanverse.org

 

[Vespa Crabro]

Harry potter rewrite got blood coming out of my screen from all the unfiltered 13 year old edgelord murderhobo fantasy