With the exception of Artoria (mostly because of Excalibur), none of them has the same fame as Orion.
Both Heracles and Achilles are more famous than Orion.
When amped by Caster? Of course he fucking does.
The mere fact he can kill Shirou with a punch, given the shit he survives on the regular puts him leagues ahead of Deku.
Shirou does not do that on the regular, no. He dies to a blow from Berserker even grazing his head, and that's with Archer's physical abilities flowing into him from his arm, making him demonstrate abilities beyond his limits.
Archer himself doesn't even have that great durability, he can die from a single one of Medea's bolts of light hitting him directly, something that is WAY weaker than Merodach.
Shirou also gets easily cut down by Archer's twin swords, piercing by Lancer's Gae Bolg, not even its true name release, his arm is sliced off by Medea wielding Rule Breaker, Saber Alter casually swinging her sword, etc.
Him surviving Gilgamesh's Merodach is a huge outlier, which can only be explained by Caliburn taking the brunt of a lot of the attack.
Curious how you would feel the need to say breaking Caliburn mitigated it's power, as if even a mitigated Merodach isn't hilariously beyond anything in MHA.
Considering that the mitigated Merodach didn't kill Shirou, no, there is no evidence that it is beyond everything in MHA.
Care to explain why you keep deliberately ignoring the fact that Kuzuki's physical strength is amped by a fucking SERVANT whose magical power is such that her magecraft is stated to be comparable to true magic in the story?
Exactly how does his feats in this state invalidate anything Xhom is saying?
Kuzuki being boosted by Medea doesn't make him that strong. Nasu says she only boosted him to 10 times the strength of normal humans. And Kuzuki's punches were so weak that he couldn't even pierce through Artoria's armor. Kuzuki simply has no feats of strength that would put him above Deku's.
Seriously, this is why people mock you and others at SB for shit like this.
Rest assured that other people mock you too for the absurd things you say.
All you give a damn about is big boom, bigger boom and speed that looks fast because "consistency" when you ignore any level of scaling or otherwise that would make Deku look like a bitch to anyone in the Nasuverse worth a damn. We have Volumen Hydraneum from Kayneth's Mystic Code pointblank stop multiple Claymore explosions happening on 4 directions at once and explosions from also pointblank to the point in it's best defensive mode, it can move so fast that it makes the Origin Bullet look slow and yet Kiritsugu still perceived and dodged it with a single Double Accel(and Kayneth STILL NOTICED WHAT KIRITSUGU DID ON THE FIRST WATCH! Despite not being a fighter Mage for fuck's sake)
Kotomine, in the same situation not only figured out Kiritsugu is moving double the speed he normally does due to it, he literally was able to bypass that AND move faster than Kiritsugu could use Double Time Accel. Kotomine wasn't even slowed down by a Triple Accel and it had to take Quad Accel for Kiritsugu to FINALLY bypass the dude.
You mean the same Kirei who in his fight with Kirisugu is explicitly incapable of dodging a shot from the Thompson Contender? That is the level of speed you wanna wank above Deku literally outspeeding a bullet?
You don't even know how to USE scaling correctly Mr. "I legit believe that Machine God Artemis needs a multiple hour long Cooldown over NOT using her basic function of her Main Cannon and blow away other Interstellar Ships and Tear Apart Planets... but to destroy Islands"...
You lost the right to mock others for scaling Mr. "I legit believe all divine constructs are planet busters as powerful as the sun".
Kuzuki isn't a normal fucking human because I don't remember a normal human effortlessly able to pop a Human Skull with their bare hands even without Medea's Enchantments, something Nasu explicitly points out:
Yeah, and crushing a human skull with a punch isn't superhuman ENOUGH to be comparable to Deku.
Maybe if we actually realize that due to Kuzuki's bullshit style
Kuzuki's snake fighting style does nothing to increase his physical strength or the force of his punches.
