I love how narrative/author intent is clearly ignored for SB when its inconvenient towards their argument, but you could say that about a lot of things over at SB.
I love how narrative/author intent is clearly ignored for SB when its inconvenient towards their argument, but you could say that about a lot of things over at SB.Scion (Worm) vs Zeus (Fate Grand Order)
And, in practice, when dropped on the cast, it failed to kill anyone or even destroy the Shadow Border, much like how Artemis, even in her final battle, very much did not blow up a planet. In point of fact, the biggest thing we see her blow up is an island. If you want to argue that Artemis...forums.spacebattles.com
The Shadow Border explicitly wasn't anywhere near the battle where Wodime fought everyone at...
Secondly, "It didn't blow up the Planet" can be said for literally any attack that should very much blow up the Planet... but doesn't for the sake of the narrative unless you are going to stupidly say some shit that Interstellar Battleships do not have Planetary Durability for their space trekking.
Ah so the narrative and authoritative intent doesn't suddenly matter now? Funny how they love pulling on this to justify their stupid rants except when it makes no sense.
Other Gods have literally stated Artemis can blow up a Planet, Oddyseus who has full knowledge of what the Gods can do in that History has stated she can blow up Planets, and both Wodime and Zeus are compared to her in firepower. The intent is clear regardless of needing to demonstrate it on-fucking-screen because if that's the case, I guess we can really start throwing out scaling entirely since god knows how many characters don't do what we heard they can do despite the narration and intent stating otherwise.
That's not how that works... Narrative Intent very much matters.
...That doesn't even make sense.
Are we trying to apply real world logic now or are we being fucking stupid in how this shit works for a gotcha?
Artemis doesn't need to blow up the Planet with every shot to show she has the ability to blow through the Planet because that is what Narrative Statements are supposed to be for(because if we don't, American Comics and shit like DBZ would basically be full of outliers no one should care for... but this is SB and they actually try that crap).
And secondly, Artemis only has those cooldowns AFTER the she fires her Planet Destroying Laser for her own safety, she has no literal cooldown if she wants to go all out at risk to herself.
Okay, let's play this game then:
Garou compared Saitama to a Mountain thus Garou before CF Garou cannot damage a Mountain. Saitama got hurt by a cat thus he and everyone else has weaker durability than him.
Nolan was able to feel pain being bitten by a Re-Animen, thus he cannot be as strong as he actually is.
Just because characters don't be destroying Planets with their attacks that they should be able to, doesn't mean they cannot, especially when the narrative fully agrees. Even in a VS. Debate, you cannot pretend the lack of showing ALONE means it doesn't exist and it's just hyperbole.
Uh? We literally have Fergus threaten the entire US in the FGO American Manga, we have had Surtr literally reduce entire Realms which still work under Norse Cosmology to ashes and damn near burned the entire World to ashes(that's why Scandaniva is literally covered with Ice and Snow, it's literally Skadi's attempts to get rid of Surtr's flames over a FAILED attempt to burn the Planet to ashes), Scion devastating continents when he's fighting doesn't mean shit on it's own.
Ah yes because LB Zeus = Ancient Gods Dioscuri, that helps your argument... how about actually explain that the reason Wodime CAN kill Lostbelt Zeus is only when Zeus wasn't focusing on him and going all out due to thinking he was just a lone Mage and the reason he believed he can kill him for true is due to the bullshit conceptual powers Animus Animusphere truly is capable of?
But apparently Conceptual anything means nothing despite Conceptual Powers are some of the most broken things in fiction...
I don't even..
You would think it common sense that a character going through multiple power-ups would obviously be stronger than themselves but a few arcs ago, but I guess that's something people sorely lack over there.
I love how narrative/author intent is clearly ignored for SB when its inconvenient towards their argument, but you could say that about a lot of things over at SB.
What is Yhwach's accepted destructive capacity?
How are end chapter sketches, statements, etc taken here? Isn't there some kind of OP feat backed by Oda sketches? I believe it was the holes created by Luffy and Law or something like that. They should be fine like any other information from the manga, lol.www.fanverse.org
>Admits said sketches were never given any meaning nor ever really talked about
>Proceeds to claim they're significant
So, said sketches could be anything from cut content to outright just Kubo fucking around drawing what he feels like yet deems not important enough for the story, hence, not putting it in a chapter. I guess we gonna start digging and pulling up some crazy color spreads from other manga and deem them canon now, too? Lmao.
This is some shameless, brain-rot level shit.
i genuinely dont even mind using the sketches but the sketches aren't universal either lol they show one planet cracking in halfWhat is Yhwach's accepted destructive capacity?
How are end chapter sketches, statements, etc taken here? Isn't there some kind of OP feat backed by Oda sketches? I believe it was the holes created by Luffy and Law or something like that. They should be fine like any other information from the manga, lol.www.fanverse.org
>Admits said sketches were never given any meaning nor ever really talked about
>Proceeds to claim they're significant
So, said sketches could be anything from cut content to outright just Kubo fucking around drawing what he feels like yet deems not important enough for the story, hence, not putting it in a chapter. I guess we gonna start digging and pulling up some crazy color spreads from other manga and deem them canon now, too? Lmao.
This is some shameless, brain-rot level shit.
Is still don't see why we should treat them as canon. It's composed of some symbolic shenanigans and shit that didn't make it into the manga.Honestly, the dude presented a terrible example because someone did bring up that Kubo's sketches actually DO reflect canon(Like Uryu saving Loly wasn't in the Anime alone, it was a sketch he did after the Manga Chapter where Uryu saves Orihime or Ichigo's Soul Reaper Badge being symbolically broken to show that Hollow Ichigo has really taken him over) and it's in fact true.
The only issue is that it alone doesn't show whether or not that's something Yhwach did(especially since none of the 3 Worlds ever had damage on that magnitude even in CFYOW).
I don't care if they're brick level, it still feels like a reaching attempt of the highest order..i genuinely dont even mind using the sketches but the sketches aren't universal either lol they show one planet cracking in half
it is a reach its just at least some kind of concrete visual which is a lot better than what they were offering lolIs still don't see why we should treat them as canon. It's composed of some symbolic shenanigans and shit that didn't make it into the manga.
I don't care if they're brick level, it still feels like a reaching attempt of the highest order..
They were on the neo-Argo at the time I believe, not the Shadow Border.
Yes, Artemis is repeatedly stated to be able to destroy planets (by piercing them). This is largely irrelevant for comparisons though, because she never actually fires at that level of potency. Her shots throughout Atlantis are only powerful enough to destroy islands.
Meanwhile, the Kirschtaria meteors that are allegedly as powerful as her cannon failed to kill regular Servants, or notably damage the (admittedly magical and klironomia-reinforced) ship that they were on.
Repeated usage also failed to defeat a handful of nanomachines-reinforced Servants in the second fight against Kirschtaria.
So how amazing tanking those meteors is supposed to be is kind of up in the air. If anything, the statement that they can destroy the Olympian gods is the best quantifiable showing of the meteors.
>Siriel says that the meteors fail to kill Servants
>it's literally said outright that the meteors were destroying swaths of them
Never change.
"Horn of Salvation Ichigo"?How Strong is Monster Aizen
Monster Aizen. The form with half his face peeled off. Where does he stack up in the final Arc and who surpasses him ?www.fanverse.org
Divell actually believes that Muken Aizen is weaker than Monster Aizen. And some people are agreeing with him!ha
This is definitely part of some sort of agenda to make Dangai Ichigo equal to horn of salvation Ichigo, even if half the people in the section already believe so.
Fate: Hercules Vs Mordred
B+ STR and Mana Burst A all but certainly result in an A-ranked attack, so not really. Based on what achievement of God Hand?forums.spacebattles.com
Man.
Round 1: Dangai Ichigo vs True Bankai Ichigo, mugetsu is restricted.
Dangai Ichigo stomps.
Round 2:HOS True Bankai Ichigo vs Dangai Ichigo, no restrictions.
Dangai beating EoS BANKAI Ichigo in any form.True Bankai Ichigo wins.
Take a look at that thread now. They're trying to desperately use it to push for galaxy level. Daio's arguing it should a "spherical object that could containt a galaxy".it is a reach its just at least some kind of concrete visual which is a lot better than what they were offering lol
yeah i really should not have said anythingTake a look at that thread now. They're trying to desperately use it to push for galaxy level. Daio's arguing it should a "spherical object that could containt a galaxy".
This is exactly why you shouldn't be generous with those fucking muppets even if they're slow. You try feeding them a crumb and they bite your whole hand off.
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