Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4: Outskirts Ningen Dome - Laughing edition

[Xhominid The Apex]

Nardo always had planetary mindfuck.
Dunno why people don't mention it, but that can deal with a lot of verses that are comparable in power.

Like that's one of the most impresive feats in the HST at least on scale, but i guess niggas prefer to bring up something a little more vague so that they can wank it to high heaven a la Lawlmighty or the recent Burito MULTIVERSALLLLLL dimensional crap.

Oh right, Infinite Tsukuyomi right? I legit forgot that actually existed

Man, I'm really forgetting Naruto shit now due to basically stepping away from the series hardcore at this point.

Xeelee Sequence. You know the series from British Author Stephen Baxter, which explores future technology based on theoretical Physics.
Shiny and Sufficient were having a debate about Xeelee's placement in this thread:

I don't think they have any connection to each other past maybe how The Almighty works to something else they think it does...

 

[shiny]

@shiny Why did you have problems with the Xeelee Sequence placement? I can understand that Xeelee is a bit wanked there in SB, but even here we (I think we do) accept it at mega-versal. Anti-Xeelee was said by @Maddie as mega versal in one of the previous threads.

If they are MegaVersals, then I'm afraid to imagine the level of the Moon Cell.

Anti Xeelee is about the level of the multiverse.

 

[NeloAngelo]

Naruto here was calculated at Small Planet and mach four digits from years ago.

With Lazywaka's calculations he gave Naruto Planet+ and Sub-relativist+, it is still under review but it is quite likely that it is planet level.

Now, I know this sounds bad but there is a feat in Boruto, yeah some shit, Naruto moves faster than Delta's optical lasers, move faster than the laser itself, that's supposed to be because of technology and in the world of Naruto there was already technology to go from the Earth to the moon in moments, could be a legit laser or not, I guess it's something to be decided by consensus if one takes the laser thing as legit, Naruto would be FTL, so it is the least scandalous thing in that forum.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Weakest LN character or faction that can solo the Sorcerer Kingdom of Ainz Ooal Gown (Light Novels)

Every one of Nazaricks top tier fighters can resist time stop magic so Karunas time stop is useless here, the guy just doesnt have the tools or physical stats to fight Nazarick. Base Touma doesnt have the physical stats to deal with Nazaricks forces he would just get overwhelmed by sheer...

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"base Touma doesn't have the stats to beat Nazarick"

If they are MegaVersals, then I'm afraid to imagine the level of the Moon Cell.

Anti Xeelee is about the level of the multiverse.

Plenty sure that Anti-Xeelee pretty much shits on anything in Nasuverse except for Root, which has even less feat than Anti-Xeelee itself. Regarding this:

The books never really showed Xeelee's ability to interact with Configuration Space.

@Maddie How much of this is true, since you read the entire thing (at least, I think.) Xeelee not being able to interact with configurational space is plain ridiculous. Also, I saw that thread. Call it my inherent biases towards Xeelee Sequence but the statement looked like that the rising sea of entropy was in fact Xeelee's doing. Also, didn't the latest volume have some Xeelee pull over some shit involving the use of configurational space.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Plenty sure that Anti-Xeelee pretty much shits on anything in Nasuverse except for Root, which has even less feat than Anti-Xeelee itself. Regarding this:

Just ignore shiny, we primarily do so and it's for the better.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Just ignore shiny, we primarily do so and it's for the better.

Oh, ok. I didn't know that. He/She seemed like an active member.

 

[Type-Rey]

If anyone is even tempted to use the Root in actual VS debates, you're getting banned. Forever.

I'm only half kidding.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Oh, ok. I didn't know that. He/She seemed like an active member.

He's basically a VSB member and we tried to tell him multiple times where he's wrong and he ignores us every single time.
So it's not worth conversing with him on that.

And yeah, we don't bring up The Root in any VS. Debate because... it should be obvious why we don't and I shouldn't even have to say examples.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

He's basically a VSB member and we tried to tell him multiple times where he's wrong and he ignores us every single time.
So it's not worth conversing with him on that.

And yeah, we don't bring up The Root in any VS. Debate because... it should be obvious why we don't and I shouldn't even have to say examples.

Because Root is pretty much fearless, along with being vague? Debating with it would be like debating with a fan-fic character since anything it can do would be straight-up head-cannon.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Because Root is pretty much fearless, along with being vague? Debating with it would be like debating with a fan-fic character since anything it can do would be straight-up head-cannon.

No, it's because The Root is the equivalent of the Akashic Records...
It literally cannot do anything but record shit.

 

[Type-Rey]

Let me put it this way.

If you use the Root as a combatant, you might as well use ..idk, the fucking weather outside as a combatant or a a fucking raincloud.

Can't believe i'm even adressing this.

 

[shiny]

Weakest LN character or faction that can solo the Sorcerer Kingdom of Ainz Ooal Gown (Light Novels)

Every one of Nazaricks top tier fighters can resist time stop magic so Karunas time stop is useless here, the guy just doesnt have the tools or physical stats to fight Nazarick. Base Touma doesnt have the physical stats to deal with Nazaricks forces he would just get overwhelmed by sheer...

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"base Touma doesn't have the stats to beat Nazarick"




Plenty sure that Anti-Xeelee pretty much shits on anything in Nasuverse except for Root, which has even less feat than Anti-Xeelee itself. Regarding this:

@Maddie How much of this is true, since you read the entire thing (at least, I think.) Xeelee not being able to interact with configurational space is plain ridiculous. Also, I saw that thread. Call it my inherent biases towards Xeelee Sequence but the statement looked like that the rising sea of entropy was in fact Xeelee's doing. Also, didn't the latest volume have some Xeelee pull over some shit involving the use of configurational space.

Em. The rising sea is the work of entropy. That this is the result of the Xeelee threat. Not even the work of hands, threats. It's just one person's guess.

"Not a theory," Gemo whispered. "I've seen it."

Nomi grunted, "We don't have time for this."

But Hama asked, despite himself, "What was it like?"

It was, Gemo said, a vast, spreading landscape, under a towering sky; she had glimpsed a beach, a rising, oily sea, an immense mountain shrouded in mist...

Reth stalked back and forth, arms spread wide. "We remain human, Hama Druz. / cannot apprehend a multidimensional continuum. So I sought a metaphor. A human interface. A beach of reality dust. A sea of-entropy, chaos. The structures folded into the living things, the shape of the landscape, represent consistency-what we time-bound creatures apprehend as causality."

"And the rising sea-"

"The threat of the Xeelee," he said, smiling thinly. "The destruction to come. The obliteration of possibility. Even there, threats can reach ... but life, mind can persist.

Dude. I haven't read the last book, but even then Xeelee didn't seem to touch Configuration Space.

And when did Anti Xeelee show more than anything in the Nasuverse? All we've seen is an interaction with Michael Pole?

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Naruto here was calculated at Small Planet and mach four digits from years ago.

With Lazywaka's calculations he gave Naruto Planet+ and Sub-relativist+, it is still under review but it is quite likely that it is planet level.

Probably going to do my own set of collections like I've done for Bleach and One Piece

Not because I disagree with @Lazywaka , but rather because I just want to see how many steps I can take to use the Nine Tails as the pivot for shit

Also because he doesn't actually complete the yields and shit, just gets the sizes

Already covered most of Part 1, might as well stab Part 2 *shrugs*

Now, I know this sounds bad but there is a feat in Boruto, yeah some shit, Naruto moves faster than Delta's optical lasers, move faster than the laser itself, that's supposed to be because of technology and in the world of Naruto there was already technology to go from the Earth to the moon in moments, could be a legit laser or not, I guess it's something to be decided by consensus if one takes the laser thing as legit, Naruto would be FTL, so it is the least scandalous thing in that forum.

All I know is, you cannot get me to read Boruto

Naruto's not a bad read through to the end of the Pain fight and I think I can tolerate the war? But the sequel, fuck that shit

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

All I know is, you cannot get me to read Boruto

Naruto's not a bad read through to the end of the Pain fight and I think I can tolerate the war? But the sequel, fuck that shit

GL with that bullshit. There's a reason I started purging Naruto at that point, I may be getting stupider due to it but it takes away from how dreadful that War Arc is...

But Boruto? Even looking at the Monthly Chapter Summaries has me gagging, let alone even thinking of reading that garbage. I basically quit with the Sarada Gaiden and never looked back.

 

[Type-Rey]

War Arc had Tobirama.
That made it tolerable .

 

[ChaosTheory123]

GL with that bullshit. There's a reason I started purging Naruto at that point, I may be getting stupider due to it but it takes away from how dreadful that War Arc is...

I mean, I found not reading it week to week like I ended up eventually doing with Bleach was pretty painless even for the shit I wasn't thrilled about?

When the pacing doesn't feel like its crawling, I can ignore the flaws of most stories so long as I'm not bored *shrugs*

But Boruto? Even looking at the Monthly Chapter Summaries has me gagging, let alone even thinking of reading that garbage. I basically quit with the Sarada Gaiden and never looked back.

The vague impression I get is it almost feels like the direct opposite direction of Dragon Ball going the Goku and Vegeta show route? More like sequel Star Wars where the main cast from the previous series gets screwed in order for the new characters to, for real this time guys, fix the problems the last main cast fought tooth and nail to alter to no avail, apparently.

In Dragon Ball, the continuous serial escalation doesn't breed apathy, rather the side cast getting sidelined and forgotten. Here, the serial escalation breeds apathy because the promises of the previous story went unanswered and we're expected to believe something different will happen with the new generation when precedent tells us it won't.

 

[ChaosTheory123]

Only generational story I've really enjoyed was Jojo's to be honest though so... eh

 

[Paxton]

Mysterious Heroine X (FGO) takes on a Swordfighter Gauntlet

The fight takes place in the Cell Games Arena, 20 meters apart. Standard equipment. No prep or knowledge. In character. Victory via death or KO. R1. Fierce Diety Link (LOZ) R2. Current Roronoa Zoro (One Piece) R3. EOS Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) R4. Dioscuri (FGO) R5. EOS Ichigo (Bleach) R6...

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>Knull in round 6 but Android Saga Trunks (I'm assuming is what they meant to type) is in round 8

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

War Arc had Tobirama.
That made it tolerable .

Like the sole light in the darkness of shit.

I mean, I found not reading it week to week like I ended up eventually doing with Bleach was pretty painless even for the shit I wasn't thrilled about?

When the pacing doesn't feel like its crawling, I can ignore the flaws of most stories so long as I'm not bored *shrugs*

I mean that is true, when you aren't dealing with week to week pacing, it isn't as painful as it should be but it's still ridiculous to me.

The vague impression I get is it almost feels like the direct opposite direction of Dragon Ball going the Goku and Vegeta show route? More like sequel Star Wars where the main cast from the previous series gets screwed in order for the new characters to, for real this time guys, fix the problems the last main cast fought tooth and nail to alter to no avail, apparently.

In Dragon Ball, the continuous serial escalation doesn't breed apathy, rather the side cast getting sidelined and forgotten. Here, the serial escalation breeds apathy because the promises of the previous story went unanswered and we're expected to believe something different will happen with the new generation when precedent tells us it won't.

My issue with the Sarada Gaiden is actually the opposite.
Kishimoto gave them a weakass villain and then they had both Naruto and Sasuke get nerfed for dumb reasons for them to not instantly stomp him into the dirt. Kishi also decided to go tackle the "Is Sarada Sakura's daughter" nonsense that fans believed as having it as the entire backdrop of the story and even milking the shit out of it... only to have it be resolved that yeah, she is(It honestly would have been better with the setup if she wasn't but Kishi isn't known to be good anymore). And the rest of the Gaiden is just hot trash and a waste of 10 chapters.

Boruto, by proxy, is just basically massive serial escalation with more and more additions of stuff from Samurai 8 and literally nerfing Naruto and Sasuke to the ground through absolutely forced nonsense(Permanent loss of Kurama and the Rinnegan) just so Boruto and Kawaki can matter to the now literal approaching Godhood of the Okutsuki...
It's such a fucking mess.

 

[Masterblack06]

Mysterious Heroine X (FGO) takes on a Swordfighter Gauntlet

The fight takes place in the Cell Games Arena, 20 meters apart. Standard equipment. No prep or knowledge. In character. Victory via death or KO. R1. Fierce Diety Link (LOZ) R2. Current Roronoa Zoro (One Piece) R3. EOS Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) R4. Dioscuri (FGO) R5. EOS Ichigo (Bleach) R6...

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>Knull in round 6 but Android Saga Trunks (I'm assuming is what they meant to type) is in round 8