Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Paxton

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"The City have access to all of it force(Including the Lobotomy corp, The Library and all the dead people)"

Oh so it's a composite of the City then

they're extra fucked lol
 

It did destroy the Divinity Protection but lost against the Human part of it(Since it basically remade the whole Greek Texture, it basically blew up Olympus but everyone else stopped it).
Wouldn't matter as that's above anything of the characters in the Gauntlet can do to the Curry Bros.
 

AcidSoup

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Anyone who scales to He-class Abnormalities (most notably, R Corp soldiers are notable nameless characters that would scale) such as Child of the Galaxy literally blitzes and one shots Nazarick.
Forget that, as early on in LOR as urban plague there are moments of being able to defend from sniper rounds before they leave the muzzle in the Full Stop Office reception with anyone "actually competent" being able to make guns worthless (Roland's words)

Anyone urban nightmare or SOTC grade should curb physically since you have The Crying Children and The Pianist's destruction feats that both had to do with nests (Heavily urbanized country sized places (some Project Moon q&a answer)) littered with skyscraper sized buildings (The Pianist affected the backstreets of district 9 too which are basically low quality urbanized slums, with only trying to get people to hear its music). Also since Limbus Company canto 5 had a mention of X corp being responsible for certain materials, these buildings might be higher quality than normal ones

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Side thing for how much damage an urban plague grade person can take is Pameli being reduced to torn up and beyond recovery with only a head and being able to last plenty long enough to get a replacement body (Note that the head does not like people coming back from death so it's safe to assume she was still alive)

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Paxton

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Otherwise, I dont see the Corps actually working together to any real extent to beat Nazarick. So, the Head would need to pick up the slack. (It honestly depends on if Heathcliff's Canto reveals anymore bullshit that T Corp is capable of in the case if T Corp can deal with it or not.) Currently, none of the Corps are capable of taking on Nazarick directly, albeit out of any of them, ironically K Corp probably has the best kill tool to some degree with their tears being literal concentrated conceptual reversal of any living thing it touches (and they can add "human concepts" to make it do things like turn people to goop), but I doubt they'd go that far until it is far too late. There is also a mention to F Corp who can conceptually unlock anything and J Corp, who can conceptually lock anything, but we dont see much of either for me to say for certain.
In reality, Siegfried, a Grade 1 (Likely, anyway) Fixer on K Corp's payroll, does this to Nazarick:



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Paxton

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The best Nazarick has to offer are attacks just shy of the power of a nuclear bomb (and that's being generous).

The best the City has to offer is are characters capable of withstanding/cutting apart a character who creates an entire star-filled dimension just to blow it up in the opponent's face like he's Sephiroth with Supernova.

It's a slaughter and I'm not sure why Nursery Rhyme is even humoring that Nazarick stands a chance.
 
Depends on how good his defense is. If we work only with what we know he can handle, he doesn't start.

Edit: 4 might be doable actually, since the servants are in-character.

4th is F/Z-4th Holy Grail War
Acting In Character

The fact that TheWorld still has people paying attention to him after saying that is a genuine sin...

In terms of dbz type powerscaling, Woodwose should cleanly win all rounds except for possibly round 2 due to being the strongest dude in Britain, with most notable Britain characters being vastly above Servants.


He should also be much stronger than them stat wise due to having extremely high magical energy and the ability to use it efficiently due to having a Mana burst equivalent with Breath of the Planet.

Super Orion probably beats him ig

LMFAO. Jesus, it's either Woodwose is getting wanked to the moon without understanding how and why he lost or misunderstanding how he blocked the Spear of Selection in the first place(It wasn't from his own power...).
Seriously, it never stops being dumb how Spacebattles continuously shows they know nothing about the Nasuverse and cannot do middle ground at all.

they kinda are though

No they aren't, Tristan was able to defeat plenty of Faeries with no issue, what Tristan was sweating over is the same issue if you had hundreds of rabid bears around you despite you having a Rocket Launcher:

Sure, you can kill the Bears by the tens but you will be overrun eventually.

Random Elementals like Lugh Beowulf are comparable to DAA

Being an Elemental =/= You being on par with a True Ancestor. It's making the same problems that others have done with Yu Meiren and took them being like True Ancestors as being equal to True Ancestors which isn't true.

and Mors having break gauges are a gameplay gimmick meant to reflect the fact that natural spirits are comparable to Servants

No? Where the hell does that come from?! Break Bars is just gameplay gimmicks made because people could literally oneshot most bosses, that's all that's there for.

// Make each Moss about as strong as a boss. After all, all fae are natural spirits of Earth, meaning their average is on Yu Mei-ren's level. Here begins a hellish battle against FGO's first trio of mob enemies with Break Gauges.

Bro, Mors are JUST normal ass enemies that are tough for the typical Faerie but not at all beyond the purview of any Servant unless it's a specified Mors like the Mors Dragon that came from Albion's remaining corpse.

Then you have Melusine believing she can take all of Knocknarea's forces alone, which is an army of Fae bolstered by Knocknarea's power.

Yeah, Melusine blusters the fuck out of her own power and considering she's the Hand of Albion, the strongest being that once lived on Earth, that's not indicative of how strong Woodwose is nor did that stop Percival from killing her with the Spear of Selection...
 
It's funny because people are vastly overplaying Woodwose's strength relative to other characters but at the same time equally don't understand why he's so strong.
Woodwose's strength primarily comes from that he's the only truly incarnated A-Ray of the bunch and is ludicrously powerful due to the special organ in his body allowing him to gain energy from the Planet and uses it in a fashion like you see from say Excalibur.

And the fact he takes multiple hits from the Spear of Selection which has Anti-Faerie Properties which stopped him from healing and further damage and still lived through sheer grit is ridiculous... but it also shows he has limits as you can easily put it at the level of the stronger Divine Constructs, if not lesser than them.


This doesn't mean much.
It is one of Nasu's favorite tropes ever to have much weaker characters pose a relevant threat to much stronger characters through compatibility and protagonist power.

No... no it is not. I love when SB'ers say this shit and you can tell within a second they aren't correct because they always say this as if Shirou vs. Gilgamesh is always a thing and it's not.
Shiki Tohno never won any of his major fights due to that and neither did Shiki Ryougi, they won precisely because their abilities are bullshit and they are literal demon hunters with demon blood in them to some degree and Hakuno and Ritsuka aren't even that.

It can simultaneously be true that some characters are extremely strong compared to Servants going purely off of Powerlevels and that in an actual fight that happens in story, the much weaker character does a lot of damage to the Fairy.

I already know where this is stupidly going...

While that is true, Melusine does rate Grimm and Muramasa above the Knocknarean forces anyway in terms of threat level(who she can definitely beat), which is why I think her statement is somewhat accurate in that case, alongside the fact that Barghest doesn't contradict Melusine in her claim that she can beat all of the Knocknarean forces.

...The Faerie Knights who was not there at all when Morgan got her ass nearly killed by Mab, who is weaker than Cnoc Na Riabh, the current incarnation, are the true judges of that?
Over Cnoc Na Riabh who explicitly remembers Mab and Morgan's final battle and Mab's past life?
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Or Morgan herself stating fighting Chaldea was the closest she got to dying for real since her fight with Mab?

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Yeah, we should TOTALLY believe Melusine who hyperinflates her own abilities over Morgan's judgment or Cnoc herself.

Even outside of that, Mash was capable of fighting on par with more than 50 Mors at the end of part 1

...Does he not realize this completely obliterates his point?! Mash was not Super Galahad or anything at that point, she was literally at the level she is as Shielder in Part 1 and she was able to take on multiple Mors on her own.
"B-But she was compared to a Tam Lin!" So was Lostbelt Percival!

and Barghest believes she can take on more than 10 large type Mors if they group together using Galatine,

REALLY not helping your point as the Galatine she's using is based on Gawain's Spirit Origin! Meaning if she can do it, so can he!

This is despite the fact that Muramasa+Da Vinci+ 3 bells Artoria+Master Support struggled against three Large Mors.

Because Rider Da Vinci is nowhere near the fighter her Caster and Adult Counterpart is, Muramasa is too much towards Divine Spirits and since Faeries don't believe in that shit, his main ace isn't there and Castoria has to basically buff everyone at once...
REALLY not helping your point.
 
Some fag unironically arguing that Lesser Restoration can't cure paraplegia because it wouldn't count as paralysis by the exact wording of it via RAW. When the exact wording of it makes it clear that it can repair damage to the nervous system that is far worse.



You already know the reason Atem, it's only done because they want to make themselves feel better about being paraplegic in real life even if it makes no damn sense and all the problems it causes.
 
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