You say that he then immediately removes the bombs from their bodies with zero issue despite their "power". Heck his wording from the clip I found is simply "It is beyond my power" Without any further explanation.
So he can freely warp things out of there bodies but can warp them back into humans? Even knowing what we know from later in the series they're mostly human?
Because it's not that simple the rules aren't ever established beside shenron randomly saying bullshit is outside his power.I'm honestly not sure what these SB-tier attempts at trying to rewrite what people can clearly see are, but it's clearly obvious it's that.
The Dragon has always been shown to be ineffective in straight up erasing people from existence or even leading them into a calamity but can still effect them in beneficial ways. This was known since King Piccolo was able to regain his youth from the Dragon and was then consequently able to destroy it.
Vegeta and Nappa couldn't be affected by it in any fashion despite them being flown in pods which should be affected by the Dragon's wish but isn't. Characters can be raised by to life or fully restored Ki wise but they cannot have their bodies affected by the Dragon(How many people miss that the Cyborgs are not machine based but are biomechanical? Vegeta's taunts aren't meant to be correct, he only fought 19 who was a robot with a human brain) but only have the destructive part of their body removed(Which fits in line with wishes being able to benefit still working).
And it's pretty clear that they wouldn't work against Zen'O erasing something and only the Super Dragonball can do that. It's funny you are trying to make something pretty basic so complicated.
And Guldo's time stop (he was stronger than Krillin/Gohan at the time, iirc), Mafuba, Ginyu's body swap (which EXPLICITLY can be used on people stronger than him), Dabura's stone spit, the Devilmite beam, etc.I thought that was more just a limitation of the dragon in general rather then specifically resisting reality warping, where it can't affect people stronger then it's creators unless they allowed it? Its presented more as a flaw with the balls.
Saying that Im pretty sure that stipulation only exist because the dragon balls kinda wrote the series into a corner when the characters had a dragon radar and reached speeds that let them get the balls in a matter of days...
hax in dbz has always been weird, Like the candy ray, it still technically worked on vegito, he could still just fight as a chunk of chocolate.
The series has always kinda had the problem that punching things is the ultimate solution, the series really, really doesn't like presenting problems the protags can't punch through with a power boost/new form.
when he at bare minimum scales above LPSAD Fiamma (who scales to Dainsleif calamities, on top of his own feats) by crushing a stronger form of the IT than the one that completely overshadowed Fiamma
when the narration in NT18 states that fighting him would be a more hellish battle than both Touma fighting Othinus and Aleister fighting true Gremlin
when the A.A.A, which is portrayed as roughly around the same level as an avatarless Aiwass, can kill a single nerfed Magic God (where they have an infinitely layered existence and can destroy the "world" while also retaining their phase manipulation)
Back in Z. We know he wouldn't be able to affect anyone in Super because super showed us having high enough ki lets you say fuck timeAnd Guldo's time stop (he was stronger than Krillin/Gohan at the time, iirc),
Fair enoughMafuba,
You're bringing up things that happened pre-super. DB having hax immunity before then was unheard of and it's clear DBS changed the rules. If Guido were to try his time hax now for instance no one would be under the impression it would workGinyu's body swap (which EXPLICITLY can be used on people stronger than him), Dabura's stone spit, the Devilmite beam, etc.
This is my stance as well. That said it's safe to say if they've shown resistance to a similar hax already used against them it isn't a stretch to say they could potentially resist others and that goes for any verse. DB has the added benefit of having established via feats it's current precedent.It's not a general rule: characters still need direct feats or narrative backing to resist an ability.
If they don't have that, tough luck.
Thats nice and all but people take this shit and run the fucking marathon with itI mean that’s just not true
Dragon Ball makes it clear time and time again that enough power > hax
People can hate it, but it’s the truth. Vegeta and Nappa resisted reality warping explicitly because they’re “too strong.” Nappa the low tier Z character. That’s insane
Goku can just power through Galactus giving him the suck
Goku can just power through Instant Death
Goku can just power through Poison more potent than anything ever shown in DB
Goku can just power through all reality warping
You can talk about out of universe reasons as much as you want, but none of that changes the fact that Shenron couldn’t forcefully change the androids back into humans because they were too strong, which was stated in the text itselfBecause it's not that simple the rules aren't ever established beside shenron randomly saying bullshit is outside his power.
And we all know the real reason the androids aren't made human isn't because it would break the setting or "RULES". Its because the author wanted them to stay androids, like ninety nine precent of the writing in series, its bullshit made up on the spot to get him out of whatever situation he doesn't like.
White Queen must be a Secret Chief, clearly
He could move between worlds and in some cases even choose to save the dead.
He managed the gates of the underworld and could communicate with gods like Odin, Enma, Hades, and Osiris.
(Well, my life will only last 100 years and I doubt I can overturn even my own death.)
“Iai, any readings?”
“Yes, Nii-sama. Three primary ones. Othinus and the Aoandon from the Divine-class and the Lady of Purple Lightning from the Unexplored-class. And one unidentified one.”
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