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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Self-destruct bomb can destroy enough rainforest to cover 300 city blocks. On imgur it was calced at 69 kilotons of TNT.
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Destroy a pyramid and the surrounding town.


Create an explosion that dwarfs multiple spaceships.
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Destroy enough rock to create a crater a quarter-mile wide, compared to a small nuke. On imgur it was calced at 873.5 kilotons of TNT.
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Create a blast in the Nevada Desert that can be seen as far as California.
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An ancient Predator suicide bomb can create a blast visible from space. On imgur it was calced at 318.519 gigatons of TNT.

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It should also be noted that scaling to Raphael Herrera, who survived being right next to a self-destruct bomb, could potentially make the Predator scale physically.
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Predators can consistently dodge bullets.
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They can dodge bazooka shots.
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They can maneuver at the pace of a speeding car.
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They can move so fast that the human eye can barely track them.
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They can kill a group of soldiers before they can see him.
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They can dodge blasts described as “lasers” and “flashes of light.”
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They can move in tandem with their Sonic Trap, which shoots out multi-spectrum light.

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It's taken out of context then since they are just saying Melusine is smaller dragon = stronger. Especially since other big characters like Herc, doesn't matter where he get the power from, he is big, and he is strong. And Paul and Kingprotea...And types.
It's pretty iffy because Melusine isn't actually shown to be "heavy" like Arcueid passively warping gravity around herself as a side effect of her mass/density to the point normal attacks can't reach her.
The only thing that could suggest Melusine is small and heavy is her statement saying she could create a Luminary like Arc and Kuku.
 
Aizen's somehow winning this according to most of these idiots, don't ask me how? :maybe
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Aizen was bifurcated and began to disintegrated from this attack, you can see his body fading away and pieces breaking off.


The anime version is much clearer, as it shows the end result of what the manga depicts - which is Aizen being disintegrated. This is why Ichigo was surprised by Aizen's survival and regeneration, as he was completely gone and seemingly dead.

Yet the wound we can clearly still see regenerating after the attack ends is the cut down the middle. :really

Do you really expect people to believe he regenerated his ENTIRE BODY before the literal FIRST (and in reality ONLY) wound he suffered from this attack? That doesn't make a lick of sense, the cut would have been the first thing healed yet we still see it regenerating after the fact.
Do you two numbskulls not see Aizens wings shattering or what?
Do you NOT still see his cut healing after the fact when everything else that was supposedly disintegrated already had according to you?
If you want to talk sense. Aizens body should not have collapsed so neatly together unless they were already being re-attached.
UNLESS all that really happened was that he was cut in two and quickly regenerated as opposed to being disintegrated completely.
And the anime is absolutely clear about what happened. Damn.
Yes, in that Aizen was cut in two, there is no evidence in either version that he was completely disintegrated.
 
It's pretty iffy because Melusine isn't actually shown to be "heavy" like Arcueid passively warping gravity around herself as a side effect of her mass/density to the point normal attacks can't reach her.
The only thing that could suggest Melusine is small and heavy is her statement saying she could create a Luminary like Arc and Kuku.
They are saying she is "heavy" because she is "Pureblood Dragon"
 
It’s much more than that because Koyanskaya is so annoyed by Melusine that she splits into light and darkness

Here

Yeah, I know. It's funny because Oberon actually screwed over Koyanskaya so badly, she couldn't become a Beast by ultimately having her consume Cernunnos' curses.

here's the small and heavy explanation from Tsuki R.

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so it's not like they're talking completely out of their ass but I probably wouldn't use it as a hard rule for the entire series .


No one isn't saying that's wrong, the thing with Arcueid cannot be applied to other characters because Nasu was primarily talking about her Luminary Form and her being a potential TYPE.
Her situation cannot be applied to everyone else which is what SB tries to do despite the Nasuverse tends to swing in the opposite direction more often than not.
 


Man these fucking Powerscale YouTubers really need to take the time to write a script for their vids.

5 minutes into the video before I finally got to any actual substance with this dweeb stuttering, mumbling, or going off topic nearly the whole time.

Anyway, let’s look at that “debunk”

“Yhwach has all the powers of the Bleach verse!”

Dude was doing literally nothing but spamming ink blots by the end. He isn’t even proven to be able to possess all the Schrifts of the other Quincy

“Accelerator is only OP in his own verse.”

Yes, a verse that Bleach wouldn’t even reach Mid Tier in

“Accelerator needs to calculate for his powers to work, so if you moved fast enough, you’d get through his Reflection.”

True…

Like when he was shot with a gun. So that’s an “anti-feat.

Wrong. Accelerator has reacted to bullets while out of the hospital. The reason he got shot was because all his powers were being poured into removing the virus code from Last Order’s brain, a delicate procedure that required nothing less in order to not affect Last Order’s original personality or worse and couldn’t spare any calculations to maintaining his Reflection. And even then, he managed to erase the last of the virus and turn back on his Reflection in between the bullet being fired and before it could penetrate his skull completely

But hey, Bleachtard wants to talk anti-feats while ignoring context?

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Failing to react to a bullet > failing to react to an arrow

“Accelerator can’t reflect something he has never encountered before. He’s never encountered Reishi before!”

This only applies against the most esoteric things he’s encountered, like from literally god-like beings such as Aiwass or Gabriel

Accelerator was defending against Magic before he even knew it was magic at the time and bringing up Dark Matter is hilarious. Accelerator was playing the whole time

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^ You got to be more esoteric than physics violating matter from another universe before you even register on first series Accel’s radar

Not that Yhwach has anything to argue he’s too esoteric for even first series Accel whose reflected magic just fine with Magic in Toaru being powered by one’s soul


“That of course changes based on the denomination and the school of thought.” Birdway shooed away the troublesome-seeming calico cat that had jumped up on the table. “Basically, it all starts by refining one’s life force into magic power. Even in the magic side, there are a flood of different theories as to the definition of the soul, so this part is rather difficult to explain… If you think of the energy flowing through the human body as crude oil, then it is necessary to refine it into gasoline before using magic.”

Index picked up the explanation from there.

“One simple method is to use certain breathing techniques. But that is just one example of controlling one’s body. It can also be meditation, warming-up exercises, or fasting. Basically, you just have to manipulate bodily functions such as the flow of blood and the rhythm of the organs to bring them to the values you want.”

Stiyl Magnus pulled out an invisible dye.

He had managed to read some residual thoughts from the Academy City printouts, so with handwritten text, he would be able to hear an actual voice like he was playing back a record.

He breathed in and out to refine the lifeforce circulating through his body into magic power.

He reached something unseen hidden within the message card’s handwriting. An unfamiliar woman’s voice played in his head like he had set the needle down on a record.

^ Just like Yhwach’s powers come from his Reiatsu so yes Bleachtard he has in fact dealt with what’s effectively Reishi in Bleach

“Yhwach is much stronger and faster then Accelerator.”

LOL. Yhwach is not even a speck of dirt next to the gods and demons Accelerator’s fought.

Bringing up the Kihara counter

Irrelevant, he isn’t replicating Amata’s microscopic precision in pulling that off and Accelerator these days likes to dodge and land the first hit compared to back then of relying on his Reflection to win fights

Accelerator can only use his powers for 15-30 minutes before his battery runs out.

Just needs a second or two to turn Yhwach into a greasy stain on the floor he can’t regenerate from and even if somehow that happened, that’s when Accelerator’s wings come into play which lets him use his powers indefinitely and on a higher scale

And now onto their Yhwach wank

Base Bankai Ichigo alone speedblitzes light speed people
The best speed feats Ichigo’s original Bankai had are statements of being as fast as lightning and barely being able to react to Gin’s not even Mach 500 Bankai

Current base Accelerator’s reflection easily works on attacks octillions of times the speed of light at least.

Accel wouldn’t even be able to see or interact with Yhwach! Accelerator has no spiritual power or resistance and would get Reiatsu crushed by any Shinigami!

Accel has interacted with spiritual beings explicitly not made of physical matter like Gabriel or Aiwass.


The form of an angel was basically a mass of energy, they had no physical body. More accurately, their bodies were not composed of physical matter. Fiamma, who was linked to Misha, was suddenly dealt a blow through his 5 senses.

Not to mention literally ripping Coronzon’s soul out of her body.

Not like Belch has particularly high standards since a loser like Chad with not even enough spiritual pressure at the time to see a Hollow can still whack one with a telephone pole.

First series Accelerator alone had enough Magic power to surpass Saints and even approach that of an Archangel’s Telesma.


“A-are you okay!?”

Releasing the meditative state she had begun for the song, Index ran over. However, Accelerator was not in a state where he could understand what people were saying. He somehow managed to grasp that she was worried for him from her expression and raised voice.

While checking to see if he was injured, Index stared at Accelerator’s back and patted at it with her white hand.

“??…Nothing’s there?”

Something like demonic wings had grown there, but they were gone without a trace. His clothes did not even look damaged.

“(The field resembled Telesma, but the substance was different. Demonology just uses normal Telesma in a different way. And that was so much power I’m not sure even a Saint could handle it all…)”

Several powerups later and he’s got more Reiatsu in his pinkie then all of Belch put together and would be Reiatsu crushing the whole galaxy Bleach takes place in like he did with Coronzon.

Rest of the video is the spud either completely failing to understand Accel’s feats or deliberately lying about them while “explaining” how Yhwach is totally Multiversal and blah blah blah. Beyond stupid.

Crafty Scales needs to stick to his usual content of comparing Bleach with Naruto, One Piece, JJK, and other mainstream shit and not bother with pitting it against stronger fictions he knows next to nothing about
 
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I think the art's just weird in that panel
You know what, I wouldn't be suprised if he used some vector shit to bend his arm like that just so he could do the "walk away from explosion" shit
 
Man these fucking Powerscale YouTubers really need to take the time write a script for their vids.

5 minutes into the video before I finally got to any actual substance with this dweeb stuttering, mumbling, or going off topic nearly the whole time.

Anyway, let’s look at that “debunk”



Dude was doing literally nothing but spamming ink blots by the end. He isn’t even proven to be able to possess all the Schrifts of the other Quincy



Yes, a verse that Bleach wouldn’t even cross Mid tier



True…



Wrong. Accelerator has reacted to bullets while out of the hospital. The reason he got shot was because all his powers were being poured into removing the virus code from Last Order’s brain, a delicate procedure that required nothing less in order to not affect Last Order’s original personality or worse and couldn’t spare any calculations to maintaining his Reflection. And even then, he managed to erase the last of the virus and turn back on his Reflection in between the bullet being fired and before it could penetrate his skull completely

But hey, Bleachtard wants to talk anti-feats while ignoring context?

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Failing to react to a bullet > failing to react to an arrow



This only applies against the most esoteric things he’s encountered, like from literally god-like beings such as Aiwass or Gabriel

Accelerator was defending against Magic before he even knew it was magic at the time and bringing up Dark Matter is hilarious. Accelerator was playing the whole time

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^ You got to be more esoteric than physics violating matter from another universe before you even register on first series Accel’s radar

Not that Yhwach has anything to argue he’s too esoteric for even first series Accel whose reflected magic just fine with Magic in Toaru being powered by one’s soul






^ Just like Yhwach’s powers come from his Reiatsu so yes Bleachtard he has in fact dealt with what’s effectively Reishi in Bleach



LOL. Yhwach is not even a speck of dirt next to the gods and demons Accelerator’s fought.



Irrelevant, he isn’t replicating Amata’s microscopic precision in pulling that off and Accelerator these days likes to dodge and land the first hit compared to back then of relying on his Reflection to win fights



Just needs a second or two to turn Yhwach into a greasy stain on the floor he can’t regenerate from and even if somehow that happened, that’s when Accelerator’s wings come into play which lets him use his powers indefinitely and on a higher scale

And now onto their Yhwach wank


The best speed feats Ichigo’s original Bankai had are statements of being as fast as lightning and barely being able to react to Gin’s not even Mach 500 Bankai

Current base Accelerator’s reflection easily works on attacks octillions of times the speed of light at least.



Accel has interacted with spiritual beings explicitly not made of physical matter like Gabriel or Aiwass.




Not to mention literally ripping Coronzon’s soul out of her body.

Not like Belch has particularly high standards since a loser like Chad with not even enough spiritual pressure at the time to see a Hollow can still whack one with a telephone pole.

First series Accelerator alone had enough Magic power to surpass Saints and even approach that of an Archangel’s Telesma.




Several powerups later and he’s got more Reiatsu in his pinkie then all of Belch put together and would be Reiatsu crushing the whole galaxy Bleach takes place in like he did with Coronzon.

Rest of the video is the spud either completely failing to understand Accel’s feats or deliberately lying about them while “explaining” how Yhwach is totally Multiversal and blah blah blah. Beyond stupid.

Crafty Scales needs to stick to his usual content of comparing Bleach with Naruto, One Piece, JJK, and other mainstream shit and not bother with pitting it against stronger fictions he knows next to nothing about
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Canon Yhwach vs “Multiversal” Yhwach
 
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Canon Yhwach vs “Multiversal” Yhwach

I legit still wonder how the fuck people get Multiversal Yhwach from...
Nothing at all ever shows the World of The Living, The Soul Society or Heuco Muendo are Universes in any fashion and if anything, they are implied to just be Planets.
You can't even use CFYOW or TYBW Anime as an excuse because if anything, the former all but implies the Original World was just a Super Earth at most and the Anime actually implies the same thing with the 3 Worlds just being Planets connected to each other.
 
yeah even if they're universes Yhwach's realm shit takes a decent amount of time (a good.. hour, I think? from what I remember) so it wouldn't even really be considered "multiversal" in any combat-applicable sense
 

I do like how Mook is trying to state that HA Bazett and Prisma Illya Bazett are 2 entirely different beings when that was never stated at all...
Nothing shows whatsoever the latter is stronger than the former and you can't even try and go on the "better feats" category because HA Bazett was fighting genuine Servants vs. Servant Cards which are still very powerful but not in comparison to the real McCoy. So I don't see the point here as she would crush Dresden regardless of the "version".
 
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