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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

yeah even if they're universes Yhwach's realm shit takes a decent amount of time (a good.. hour, I think? from what I remember) so it wouldn't even really be considered "multiversal" in any combat-applicable sense

Yes, it explicitly takes time and even when Yhwach was stopped, we get the damage from CFYOW and it's only a big ass hole in a city in Japan... and not even a truly massive one, it's like 1-3 City Blocks big.

It doesn't help Yhwach didn't really do it under his own power either but more of the function of The Soul King keeping the Equilibrium of Souls in Balance and simply... stopped.
 
yeah even if they're universes Yhwach's realm shit takes a decent amount of time (a good.. hour, I think? from what I remember) so it wouldn't even really be considered "multiversal" in any combat-applicable sense
Right now, all you can do is scale him to Senjumaru’s feat lol, and where that exactly stands is still debatable. I think continent level would be severe downplay though

sadly, Bleach still doesn’t have something like what Ronin Warriors has which explicitly says where the top tiers should sit at

Very unambiguous universe level statement
 
Right now, all you can do is scale him to Senjumaru’s feat lol, and where that exactly stands is still debatable. I think continent level would be severe downplay though

sadly, Bleach still doesn’t have something like what Ronin Warriors has which explicitly says where the top tiers should sit at

Very unambiguous universe level statement


Honestly? Even if it did, it would end up like you see in certain places like SB and otherwise that will hyperinflate that shit even harder than ever before.

Some dudes just don't want what they have and want to go further while otherwise downplaying what they see straight up.
 
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Canon Yhwach vs “Multiversal” Yhwach
I will never understand how such a pathetic villain as Yhwach gets wanked as often as he does
 

I do like how Mook is trying to state that HA Bazett and Prisma Illya Bazett are 2 entirely different beings when that was never stated at all...
Nothing shows whatsoever the latter is stronger than the former and you can't even try and go on the "better feats" category because HA Bazett was fighting genuine Servants vs. Servant Cards which are still very powerful but not in comparison to the real McCoy. So I don't see the point here as she would crush Dresden regardless of the "version".
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From Mook too.
 

It's funny because they both want to pretend Prisma Illya is stronger than F/SN and HA Servants by proxy of having "better feats" but in the same breath act as if Prisma Illya's feats aren't that good when it takes no more than a genuine look to see how insane they are(primarily because no one wants to dare give Medea her kudos or state that Kuro/Chloe can body all of JJK on her own lol).

They even pretend the Kaleidosticks don't operate the same way in HA as they do in Prisma Illya... when they explicitly DO(Rin literally becomes the Magical Girl equivalent to what she is in PI and wears the same clothing and how the Kaleidosticks operate is exactly the same).
This is funnier when the Card System itself is just a shittier version of the Heroic Spirit Summoning System and in the final arc, Miyu does exactly that and all 7 Servants basically tear Darius apart with single use NPs when Illya, Chloe and otherwise could do nothing else.

i think Mook is nerfing something because he wants to put someone from the shitty RWBY

It's not even just that, the dude genuinely believes that F/Z is a direct sequel to F/SN despite the contrary even when someone brought in the actual time trees that has Fate/Zero explicitly be deemed a whole ass different timeline and not that.
 

Yhwach in a thread with two Super Saiyan Gods and Dark Schneider


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And EstrelladeLeonn with their typical wanked garbage takes

Allow me to explain why Darsh cleans their asses.

Can’t wait.

•Speed doesn"t matter, period
Kinda does when Darsch is basically a statue next to DBS

•Dispel Bound, they cannot attack separated planes of existence and break through it, if they do, they still cannot due to Inertia Control;

Laughs in just DBZ Goku’s SS3 Ki being felt and reaching the afterlife and SSG Goku being able to obliterate the entire macrocosm of his universe with his punches, including Heaven, Hell, and other dimensions that make up Universe 7

•Darsh's attacks target conceptual fundamental components beyond the space time of an infinite universe, directly, Goku and Vegeta cannot dodge,a single punch that erases you on the body, astral, spiritual/metaphysical/conceptual scale(yes, souls in Bastard!! are concepts and straight up archetypes), across space-time and the laws of cause and effect, kills them instantaneously, not mentioning the fact these are just his punches, a Judas Priest is more dangerous as it negates resistances and later Darsh's punches evolve enough to be above said Judas Priest..

Blah blah blah, bunch of retarded “Muh conceptual” garbage. When they got nothing for an argument, Estrella loves to throw in every pretty words they know to make whatever their trash character is seem far more impressive then they actually are

•Immortality they cannot bypass, as even being erased across all planes of existence on all levels of existence in the Bastard!! verse, isn't enough to put down Darsh;
Classic NLF. Darsch isn’t coming back from nor stopping a Universe+ level attack vaporizing him, soul and everyhing,

has dozens of spells that can instantaneously oneshot. Bloodstone, Testament, Accused, Black Sabbath, Venom, Giran Ira, potentially Exodus, Judas Priest, all the while he can stop time. He can spam hundreds of spells all at once, there is no way they're going to avoid all of them, nor can they put him down due to his virtually endless stamina, while they will tire, and they will eventually get oneshotted.
And nothing preventing either Goku or Vegeta easily obliterating him on the spot.

And unlikely this will ever change. Not even when the Bastard anime still isn’t enough incentive for Kazushi to end his hiatus on the series
 
Sigh

It's hard to say since each of the Apostles(Outside of Holmes as we don't know what Divinities he has) as well as the Servants' abilities can counter the others:

Moriarty has his bullshit King Crimson-esque abilities which basically makes it impossible to hurt him since he can manipulate/change his fate but Muramasa can fuck that up entirely with his Demonic Swords or NP and killing Holmes can basically screw it up but otherwise, his overall power isn't noteworthy and nothing shows he can forcefully control other Apostles.

Muramasa would be one of the clear heavyweights due to having Divinities that can allow him to do extra damage to Divine and Gods... which needless to say, all of the Apostles have and he's actually good with a blade... his major flaw is that for all of his abilities with a blade, they are not on par with a Sword Saint or Master and he can just be jumped.

Ashiya Douman is the Dark Horse due to well... being the 2nd best Onmyo Practitioner known and has done some absolutely ludicrous shit almost every time he's on screen. If we also give him his Shikigami, he also can just avoid death by just not really being there and you gotta go find the real him and kill him. His flaw is that Douman just likes fucking with people more than just killing them off.

Rasputin generally plays close to the chest since he never really fights but considering he helped kill multiple Servants alongside Muramasa, he would be just as strong while having Azi Dahaka and Mammoo as Divinities. His general weakpoint would be that he basically fights like Kotomine otherwise.

Caligostro is a joke in the sense that he's not really a fighter and more of a planner and basically gets ruined by everyone.

Of course none of this matters because in truth, U-Olga Marie herself is an Apostle and she would body everyone for free. Now stop @'ing me for everything.
 
I'm not stressed you dumbass, I just want you to stop asking me for my opinion on really dumb topics.
You are as bad as Paxton when you go into that passive aggressive nonsense.
Come on, you just need to point out what other people are doing wrong and they will automatically correct it, no need to say bad things
 
Come on, you just need to point out what other people are doing wrong and they will automatically correct it, no need to say bad things

My dude, you keep doing that all the time and you do not listen to me when I tell you to do so. I am now making it clear do not ask me about these things, I saw the topic and didn't bother commenting on it meaning it doesn't have my interest whatsoever. It's better than me ignoring it entirely like I do most of the time right?
 
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