Again this is assuming the dungeon's floor durability.
If you need the same energy to destroy adamantite in fate to destroy the dungeon floor in Danmachi, that is beyond city level.
This is my point, we either assume it is or it is not.
Because there is no 100% confirmation the humans are exactly the same.
Even this is assuming the human are roughly the same in both verses.
The point is again, how this is all assumption.
That is all visual effect, you can in theory make a sword made of wood so similar to a real steel sword, and make a wooden shield so similar to real steel shield and have them interract and they look like real steel sword and real steel shield. But obviously they are not the same
Are you under the impression that assumption is inherently wrong or something that you are so against it? When your word literally assume the humans are the same?
It is not difficult concept, no one say it is. I literally repeating myself to say that you are assuming they are comparable. Nothing wrong with that, as there is nothing directly indicate they are not comparable.
I've been saying this since like 3 comments ago.
Human in danmachi barely do anything. Also you are saying that because you see how the human interract with the things inside that verse. There is nothing 100% confirm that if normal human in fate is suddenly thrown to danmachi verse, they'd be as strong as danmachi verse human. And vice versa, there is nothing 100% confirm that if normal human in danmachi is suddenly thrown to danmachi verse, they'd be as strong as Nasuverse human.
We literally need to assume because there is no official crossover between the two. Hell, if there is, it may not be canon or contradict canon and so we still need to assume.
Yes that is Adamantite...Let's not pretend stupidity that they are both mean to represent the mythical material Adamantite.
Well I do hope no one will accuse me of downplaying if I call danmachi's adamantite is weaker than Fate's. Again I do want to do it. Alright
Yeah fair enough actually.
Which HST universe would come the closest to beating said Heralds?bruh, I doubt anyone in hst can defeat a Herald, not to mention most Heralds are reality manipulators
Adamantium (variously spelled adamantine, adamantite or adamant): the name comes from Greek adamas, "diamond". And, indeed, this metal is diamond-hard and much more strong and resilient than diamond to boot. It tends to be even stronger than mithril, although it is usually rather heavy compared to mithril's supernatural lightness. If adamantium isn't of a magical level of indestructibility and is given more down-to-earth properties, then it resembles the real-world metals tungsten and rhenium.
Their version of adamantium is a super-metal designed to present threats to invulnerable superheroes. (The second X-Men movie states that it's synthesized in liquid form and a "hot chain"must be maintained to keep it usable.) Wolverine is well known for having a whole skeleton and a set of six claws bonded with adamantium.
Everything you said here are assumption, I am just repeating myself and I've been explaining this as dumbed down as possible and you don't want to accept it at this point.No, we don't. We never even consider that scenario at all. At no point in the process do we pick another random series and go "hey maybe the rock in this world is as strong as the iron in this one"
We are told they are normal humans, they act like normal humans, and literally nothing is said that they aren't.
This is not an argument. These are works of fiction and unless there is evidence presented otherwise we take what they state at their word.
This is not what an assumption is. And assumption is used to fill in a logical gap based on existing evidence. You don't have any evidence for this theory.
There is literally nothing in either verse that suggests the laws of physics are deliberately arranged behind the scenes so that a less impressive verse is actually exerting orders of magnitude more force than it appears.
If a series states they are baseline human and never directly contradicts it, they are baseline human. It's fiction, the only source of information is the series itself. This is not an existing world the author is giving us a glance into, it's words on a page and pictures in a book. Unless contradicted by the series itself, it is objective fact as far as that settings reality goes.
We literally see a bunch of normal ass human soldiers try to fight adventurers. The Adventurers have to deliberately moderate their attacks to not paste them.
And again both series state baseline humans are just that, so unless contradicted elsewhere that is in fact 100% confirmation. Because this is fiction and it works how the author says it does.
Again, this is not what "assumption" means. There is literally no logic behind your statements.
Are you fucking kidding me right now
All that BS you just shat out about assumptions and how we can't believe that humans are actually humans when the writer says they are
and now you suggest that two materials called by different names
With different properties and abilities
MUST be the same
because they sound similar
This is actually, literally, unitonically retarded.
As in this statement, when attached to the rest of your post, is literally a sign of retardation in the medical sense
Get off the internet, you're done for the day
If you consider they are different simply because visually they are very different, with Adamantium in Danmachi destroyed by Gareth who's best feat is arguably lifting a galleon vs Adamantium in Fate which requires planet destroying attack, then you are making assumption that Gareth can't deal as much damage as planet destroying attack. There is no evidence he can? Then you don't assume he can, you assume he can't. There is no direct canonical statement the human in Fate and Danmachi are the same. Considering they are same too, is an assumption. You can say because there is no evidence that says otherwise, and that is still assumption
It would depend on which Era for both, and I still need to catch up on the Stormlight Archives, but from what I'd seen I'd mostly go with LOTR in most examples.
"I don't really feel like making intentionally goofy arguments about goofy characters is debating in bad faith. If everyone is in on the joke then it's all in good fun even if it's silly.
mook is the one saying this
Everything you said here are assumption, I am just repeating myself and I've been explaining this as dumbed down as possible and you don't want to accept it at this point.
If you consider they are different simply because visually they are very different, with Adamantium in Danmachi destroyed by Gareth who's best feat is arguably lifting a galleon vs Adamantium in Fate which requires planet destroying attack, then you are making assumption that Gareth can't deal as much damage as planet destroying attack. There is no evidence he can? Then you don't assume he can, you assume he can't. There is no direct canonical statement the human in Fate and Danmachi are the same. Considering they are same too, is an assumption. You can say because there is no evidence that says otherwise, and that is still assumption
There is nothing wrong with assumption. If there is nothing that suggest Hans can take being punched by Saitama 100 times, then you don't assume he can, you assume he can't
It's that simple. It's still assumption.
Adamant has deflected a shot that once bored a hole through the planet. Thus it's durability is planet level.
Adamas...
Also remember, Nasuverse Planet, Adamas would be Planetary+(Moreso as that's what the Machine Gods are made of)
Adamas is the name of Chronos' Scythe. They also randomly just call it Divine Steel, but Hephaestus called it Adamant when talking about reforging Achilles armor.
True as I checked with Ares again and they do call it Adamant but I think in Dioscuri's profile it's called Adamas but I haven't looked there either for certain.
(http://imgur.com/MPcaW8T)
In Greek Mythology, Adamant is the name of Chronus' scythe. Adamas is how Greeks described Hades.True as I checked with Ares again and they do call it Adamant but I think in Dioscuri's profile it's called Adamas but I haven't looked there either for certain.
(http://imgur.com/MPcaW8T)
Illiad, IX."Why do we loathe Hades more than any god, if not because he is so adamantine and unyielding?"
Adamant soul is hedesIn Greek Mythology, Adamant is the name of Chronus' scythe. Adamas is how Greeks described Hades.
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