Salfarc
Paramount
THERE ARE SOME FEATS YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO MAKE ASSUMPTION.
HOLY SHIT
STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS
USE FEATS
ITS THAT SIMPLE
THIS AINT HARD
THAT IS LITERALLY SCALING ARE.
YOU MAKE ASSUMPTION.
IF YOU STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS, YOU CAN'T SCALE ANYTHING. IF YOU STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS YOU CAN'T EVEN DO ANY INDUCTIVE REASONING. IF YOU STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS SOME FEATS END UP BEING USELESS.
BECAUSE I LITERALLY REPEATING MYSELF THAT YOU EITHER ASSUME THEY ARE OR THEY ARE NOT. THE FUCKING FEATS ARE THERE BUT DO YOU GUYS EVEN READ? THERE IS NO DIRECT CANON EVIDENCE THE MATERIAL IN DANMACHI IS SO MUCH STRONGER AND THAT THE HUMANS AND THE ADVENTURER ARE NOT CAPABLE OF GENERATING ENERGY EQUAL TO DESTROYING PLANET IN FATE, THIS IS FICTION! WE ASSUME THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE LARGE SCALE ASSUMPTION IF WE DO....MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THEY ARE AS DURABLE AS EACH OTHER?!
Use the fucking feats they have access to! By your logic, Marvel Adamantium is the same shit as Adamantium in Overlord and thus Ainz is Universal+ as well as every goddamned person in Overlord by proxy.
There is no assumptions, there is only the evidence of absence and the absence of evidence and it's clearly obvious where Danmachi Adamantium is.
BUT IT IS STILL ASSUMPTION. AND YES BY THAT LOGIC, WHAT YOU SAID IS CORRECT, YOU ASSUME THE MARVEL ADAMANTITE IS THE SAME OR DIFFERENT WITH OVERLORD, IT IS STILL ASSUMPTION.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU LIKE YOU ARE TREATING ASSUMPTION SOME KIND OF CARDINAL SIN WHEN YOU GUYS ARE LITERALLY USING ASSUMPTION TOO.
What do you mean I haven't? At least read:You haven't "dumbed it down", you are mistaken. Like you are flat out using the words incorrectly. The things you are saying are not the way things actually are. I cannot make this any clearer.
If you need the same energy to destroy adamantite in fate to destroy the dungeon floor in Danmachi, that is beyond city level.
This is my point, we either assume it is or it is not.
There is no 100% confirmation the humans are exactly the same.
Even this is assuming the human are roughly the same in both verses.
The point is again, how this is all assumption.
you can in theory make a sword made of wood so similar to a real steel sword, and make a wooden shield so similar to real steel shield and have them interract and they look like real steel sword and real steel shield. But obviously they are not the same
It is not difficult concept, no one say it is. I literally repeating myself to say that you are assuming they are comparable. Nothing wrong with that, as there is nothing directly indicate they are not comparable.
Is that not dumbed down enough?...How much simpler do you need?
No that is not true.An assumption is something you make to close a gap in logic.
Assumption is something you consider as truth or conclusion without direct evidence that specifically state/shows that.
If you heard someone got shot in the head and didn't get up, if you think that person is dead. You are making assumption.
It is logical assumption and it is still assumption.
Dude can use fire without burning himself? You assume he's fireproof.
Yes. This is logical assumption. His power may not be fireproof itself but he have possibility of having some kind of power that emulate fireproof in practice.
Or it could be that he is immune to his own fire but not other's fire. So he is technically not fireproof.
Unless the story explicitly state he is fireproof or not, it's either you assume he have some kind of fireproof or you don't.
Those are assumptions. Regardless if you want to accept it or not those are assumptions.However, the things you are saying are not assumptions. They are not based in any form of logic, in or out of the fictional universes we are discussing.
You made a stupid statement and are attempting to obfuscate that by saying "well actually everything is a stupid statement". No dude, it's just you.
We literally need to assume because there is no official crossover between the two. Hell, if there is, it may not be canon or contradict canon and so we still need to assume.
What you are saying is based on logical assumption and when I point it out you say I am not basing on logic. I am basing on the fact that you have to make assumption here. It is logical for me to say it.
And no I never said "actually everything is a stupid statement" when did I say that? Quote me, I dare you.
How do you not make assumption? Do you not consider the human in Danmachi no different than normal human in Fate, despite there is no literal statement they are the same, because there is no actual official crossover?I'm not making an assumption. Gareth has demonstrated the limits of his strength, and it was roughly city level. He can break adamantite. Thus adamantite has a durability of less than city level.
Yes and you are assuming the durability of Danmachi are not planet level.Adamant has deflected a shot that once bored a hole through the planet. Thus it's durability is planet level.
This is not an assumption, it's a statement of things that happened in the stories. Unless otherwise contradicted by those same stories, that is the same as objective fact in their respective universes. That's how fiction fucking works.
Are you going to say there is no evidence to suggest that? Yes there is none, unless you assume both Adamantite are the same. If you assume they are different, then there is no evidence to suggest that.
But is there any direct statement that the power needed to destroy a planet in Fate is not required to destroy adamantite in Danmachi? None, so you are still making assumption.
I am not saying it requires that many power to destroy adamantite in Danmachi, I am pointing out how it is still assumption to not assume it requires such energy
Stop saying assumption. You are not using this word correctly.
You mean I am not using the word the way you want it to be, hence your reaction.
If there is no direct statement or showing that state/shows something is the case, you are making assumption. That's it, it's that simple.
I really don't get the allergy you guys shows to the word when you do the literal action when I am not even saying that doing it is wrong.
Bruh this is like saying humes in FFXI is not mean to be humans since they goes by slightly different name. Despite they are meant to be humans.I'll note, however, that while Adamant, Divine Steel, and Adamas are all used for the same metal in Greek Mythology, it is never once referred to as Adamantite
This is just distinction without difference in literal definition. Like sure Danmachi Adamantite and Fate Adamantite may not have similar feat, but its obvious Adamant is mean to be adamantite