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I feel like people only post this almost defensively because of how serious they take DB. Imagine being this butthurt that a character lost nearly 10 years ago from the first season.
According to Ben from a DB panel a couple years ago a fan even took a swing at him over the Goku vs Superman video and he had to call security.

like bruh their fights are non-canon to the franchise. It's just their interpretation on a theoretical scenario, they didn’t literally kill Goku :smh

fans of Death Battle I don’t mind it’s Death Battle fans that treat this shit like it’s the actual NFL. Like half the show is literally just a neet and a redneck throwing around puns and memes while regurgitating old calcs that other people worked on, you don't need to take this shit so seriously.
 
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I do plan on making a 10th anniversary blog on January 10 for GvS based on my VSB one that comemmorated GvS2's 5 year anniversary, but I will expand and tweak it
 
OrlandoSky said:
I feel like people only post this almost defensively because of how serious they take DB. Imagine being this butthurt that a character lost nearly 10 years ago from the first season.
According to Ben from a DB panel a couple years ago a fan even took a swing at him over the Goku vs Superman video and he had to call security.

like bruh their fights are non-canon to the franchise. It's just their interpretation on a theoretical scenario, they didn’t literally kill Goku :smh

fans of Death Battle I don’t mind it’s Death Battle fans that treat this shit like it’s the actual NFL. Like half the show is literally just a neet and a redneck throwing around puns and memes while regurgitating old calcs that other people worked on, you don't need to take this shit so seriously.
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Bruh folks still seethe over several fights
Fks still mad over Tifa losing to Yang,Gaara losing to Toph and a bunch of other shit to go on about
Vs is serious business
 
Someone was actually butthurt enough over Goku vs Superman outcomes to attack one of the DB hosts.

What a sad fool

:hestonpls
 
seth said:
wod is too niche really.
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Its getting some more exposure, and is fairly influential on series like Buffy, etc.

But I mostly put them forward as their rituals and ceremonies may actually give them a small amount of resistances to not get instantly destroyed by a Vampire
 
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Maddie said:
Maybe you can get away with not allowing the Thought Robot (Who is the weaponized plotpoint of Superman), but Strange Visitor Superman shattered the Fifth Dimension and went to the plane of existence beyond it. He is a Godsphere, potentially Limbo tier character (Depending on how you interpret the Fifth Dimension).

There is also Milkman Man who sees DC as fiction and fucks with it.

Otherwise, tbh, yeah, DBH Goku beats most versions of Superman, but not all. Strange Visitor and Milkman Man are simply on another level.
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Can I get small run down on why one of the strongest versions of Superman is called Milkman Man? :blobwhat

When I imagined a Goku vs Superman III, I imagine it as Xeno Goku vs whichever was the strongest version of Superman, I know very little about the Thought Robot, just that he was activated by fusing two Supermans and someone sending it to a higher plane of existence to activate it? It would be like using that GT Goku/Super Goku fusion from one of the games. Because they make shorter battles now that's the only Goku and Superman they would use.

Although the one I wanted that nobody would make, would be multiple Gokus versus multiple Supermans, like show how far each Goku could make it if you put all the Supermans in a tier list. And for the love of God if they are going to have Goku lose, can they at least make it look like he can hurt Superman, instead of him just being squeaky clean at the end of the battle. They already had Thor get fucked up by Vegeta before he won.
 
Sigismund said:
Its getting some more exposure, and is fairly influential on series like Buffy, etc.

But I mostly put them forward as their rituals and ceremonies may actually give them a small amount of resistances to not get instantly destroyed by a Vampire
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the vampire needs to be powerful enough not to get destroyed by the werewolf. The garou are quite powerful. with dealing aggravated damage, regen, travel to the umbra, spirit magic. The only vamps who can fight them are the methuslah and those are atleast mountain busters
 
seth said:
the vampire needs to be powerful enough not to get destroyed by the werewolf. The garou are quite powerful. with dealing aggravated damage, regen, travel to the umbra, spirit magic. The only vamps who can fight them are the methuslah and those are atleast mountain busters
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Composite Vampire vs Composite Werewolf? :maybe
 
Paxton said:
Composite Vampire vs Composite Werewolf? :maybe
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vampire. Composite one has hax lords like wod cain who is already a composite vampire in his kindred since he has every powers like planetary level mind control, void hax, reality warping and whatever the plot demands no joke its an actual power
 
seth said:
vampire. Composite one has hax lords like wod cain who is already a composite vampire in his kindred since he has every powers like planetary level mind control, void hax, reality warping and whatever the plot demands no joke its an actual power
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Doesn't Mandrakk technically count as a vampire? :mjpls
 
seth said:
the vampire needs to be powerful enough not to get destroyed by the werewolf. The garou are quite powerful. with dealing aggravated damage, regen, travel to the umbra, spirit magic. The only vamps who can fight them are the methuslah and those are atleast mountain busters
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I mean Elders can and have thrown down with, if not outright slaughtered Garou, the Shadowlords are more than familiar with that.
Even particularly powerful or crafty Neonates have had canon victories over Garou. Garou dont have as vast a gulf between their most powerful members to their weakest, but it certainly exists.
Youre not gonna expect a Bone Knawer cub in the middle of the first change to stand a chance in hell if they run into Old One Eye.

The last Garou vs Methusalah match up I can recall was a full pack vs a just waking up from being directly firebombed into torpor Mithras.
Mithras won, if just barely. When blood starved, having just woken up from torpor.

Then of course there was Zapathasura as a White, showing that even a full army of Garou couldnt get close to him.

I just suggested the garou for the magical array of powers, stat wise, they dont even clear their verses Vampires.

Its even canon that the biggest reason why Werewolves tend to beat Vampires is "Several Pack Hunters vs Paranoid Recluse with more enemies than friends". Otherwise, you get giant wars where at best a bunch of Neonates and Cubs get killed (Eg Chicago), at worst to a stalemate requiring Kine Intervention to settle disputes (How Durga Sin fell into the Ravnos's and Baba Yaga's Jihad)
seth said:
whatever the plot demands no joke its an actual power
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Technically, thats just the 10th Level Discipline skill for any tree "Plot Device", the Antedeluvians also have access to it.

Caine theoretically has 2 more levels of higher plot device, and his actual rules are just straight up "you lose"


For the few times (aka Gehenna) where Caine does have even beyond those rules..
Well even Lilth has to dodge the 7 fold return curse when she comes out to fight Caine in "Gehenna: Fair is Foul" , and if Able is the first Wraith, he is protecting Caine and is more powerful than both Lilth and Caine if used by the ST.
 
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