Uh probably in a world where Gram isn't paying the game? Woof
Ok I’ll say what my biggest problem is with pushing alco. I do agree he looks pretty bad around tweet overall, and I’m not any more confident on gram being mafia than I am on alco
But, one hold up I do have is that I find it fairly hard to imagine a scum alco trying to pick a fight with gram of all people. I can’t see a world where he thinks that ends well for him
Can't say I noticed, what did he sus him for?That’s not really why he was sussing him tho, and he first started prodding him on D1
I don’t think that’s massively relevant tho, especially not as early in the game as it came. You’d always expect him to show up and start playing at some point soonUh probably in a world where Gram isn't paying the game? Woof
bro I forgot you were still with usSooooo
Everytime I come in here and wanna catch up, all I see are AIDS posts
He took issue with gram sussing tpein. He said in the previous game gram read tpein as town for playing basically exactly the same way and didn’t understand what was different here to make gram read him as scum. Then he pointed out that gram ignored his question as you’ve just quoted. I think he brought that up a few times as wellCan't say I noticed, what did he sus him for?
I’m sorry but Ekko your arrogance (or confidence w/e) is so extremely misplaced here. You barge in yesterday 1 hour begrote deadline demanding a case while bekend certain Tweet would flip town and now You’re gonna hindsight hero again and do your thing where you accuse everyone at least once so you’re bound to be wright.
it comes across as very disingenuous
I was gonna say Odo (Gramma), but Ekko’s coming in a close second and gaining with his unwarranted cockiness
Points to anyone who can spot the problem with these posts.
The top part is approached from a place where Ekko is town is what I’m guessing you’re talking about
Yes.
Also, this is my observation of Ekko's town meta
I don't remember where I said this, possibly in discord, but after a game this was word for word my critique of Ekko's play, so I know this is not conflation on Alco's part.
the first paragraph itself doesnt add up
calls me doing my thing where i accuse everyone (he has only seen me do this as town), and the word "doing my thing" implies doing the usual stuff i do - i have only been town or indie here.. 1 game subbed and mafia for 1 day
then calls it disingenuous in the same sentence when it was implied that he is addressing my town meta
Fwiw I also think alco looks pretty bad in a bubble here, but I share his suspicion of gram and they’re really unlikely to be aligned so that’s another reason I wanna wait for Pein
Are you saying I’m copying you?
I am saying this is a specific observation I made in/after a game that was met with some applause. I don't believe you say this completely independently, no. It's not the most damning part - it can be derived you were talking about town Ekko without that context - but that is why it struck out to me
I think you’re overestimating how much I care about mafia if you think I’m gonna go out there and quote something you said on the Discord lol
I see where You’re coming from, I think, in that I use supposedly town behavior to accuse Ekko, but in this case what’s bothering me is that he’s leaning so much into it without any merit. Almost as if he saw some people questioning his absence and him wanting to make up ground
I'm saying the opposite - you didn't mean to quote me, it was something you just said subconsciously that just happened to be my observation. You reached for something in your brain to shade Ekko and that's what you found.
Oh like that. Yea I don’t agree but if that’s your perception then so be it
anyway I’m going to bed
unvote
For now. I’m not sure whether or not I’m fully sold on lynching gram blind tbh, and I’m still pretty interested in a ratchet direction.
vote ratchet
Might switch back lol I’ll see tomorrow
I don’t think this is the gotcha you’re making it out to be fwiw lol
I forgot.
you townread gramma?
I don’t think this is the gotcha you’re making it out to be fwiw lol
He did say in the original post that it comes across as very disingenuous which backs up what he said later about thinking Ekko was leaning into it too much and it being fake
I’ve seen it once or twice I think, can’t really remember his alignments in those games tho loldoes he ever refuse to claim?
But what I’m saying is it wasn’t really ad hoc, because there’s evidence of this thought process in the first post because he calls it disingenuousThat was an ad hoc explanation, and not really a convincing one. Woof.
Okay that's a lot more fair than just "he doesn't post, he sus" and actually makes his post I had issue with a lot less slimyHe took issue with gram sussing tpein. He said in the previous game gram read tpein as town for playing basically exactly the same way and didn’t understand what was different here to make gram read him as scum. Then he pointed out that gram ignored his question as you’ve just quoted. I think he brought that up a few times as well
Ur a bit behind but I’ve already claimed bus driver who used to ensure tpein couldn’t be messed with last night, and giving him another bus drive shotOh btw also on topic of Poyser, the thing I kinda failed to realize yesterday is that as scum he's neither perfect nor is everything he does orchestrated incredibly far in advance, so him pivoting on me could just be something he decided in the moment and went with. That being said, over the course of the day he kept changing his opinion on me back and forth and back again, and while I think that's not unfakeable, I lean that it's more likely towny than scummy behavior.
He's a big bag of WIFOM to me at this point and I'm reminded of one scum game Gram had where he faked info on a townie and then tried to escape by asking "now why as scum would I ever do that, and if you say 'for the WIFOM', you're trash tier" or something similar. Do with him whatever you like, I'm kinda past caring.
Tbh with my success rate so far this game he’s probably scumOkay that's a lot more fair than just "he doesn't post, he sus" and actually makes his post I had issue with a lot less slimy
Hmm I don't think that initial quote is a gotcha, strikes me more as one of those slips that isn't a slip.
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