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Game Unranked Archived Fairy Tail Mafia - The Dawn of Fiore [Main Game Thread] (Game Ended - Zeref Dragneel and Acnologia have won the game)

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Ratchet said:
There isn't a point being made here either - you're just saying it's convenient because you want people to accept this at face value. If anything, claiming it deters the Vig from wasting more shots, and given that no Vig has claimed shooting me, looks like it really was scum.

I never once claimed my being shot at was crucial information, by the way. Just information.
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- Not really. If you were town, you would not advertise being BP, or at least you would do it in DAY 1. You did not do that.
- If you were survivor, you would not advertise being BP when there was no pressure on you to begin with. You just survived a shot and? No vig came forward with that.
- If you are scum, you have every bit of incentive to push the narrative that you are BP so that vig does not target you.

Again, you being BP is YOU and YOU alone. It is not proven. Next.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
May I ask about the reluctance to claim your wincon?
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Not really any value in it, and if I'm town here scum thinking I'm Indie is useful for it's own reasons. I am pretty sure I'll be able to verify a pro town ability "soon", hence why my alignment being Indie or Town shouldn't really matter here.
 
Ratchet said:
Not really any value in it, and if I'm town here scum thinking I'm Indie is useful for it's own reasons. I am pretty sure I'll be able to verify a pro town ability "soon", hence why my alignment being Indie or Town shouldn't really matter here.
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How fascinating.
 
Black Pegged Dragon said:
What else do you got for me besides Ratchet? Help me help you.
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I would like to resolve Hime - Prof - Ratchet - Aurelian because there is an inconsistency with what they claim to be the case. Other than that, we should look at who may have bussed Xadlin yesterday. The difference in his D1 and D2 wagons should give us clues.
 
Day 1 - Final Votes
Votes:
Kobe -> Ultra > Magic > RDK
Magic -> Kobe > Sworder > Prof > TAT
BPD -> Flower > Sworder > Flower > Kobe
Ratchet -> Sworder > Xadlin > Kobe > Xadlin
Sworder -> BPD > TAT
Aurelian -> Sworder > Kobe
Tpein -> Sworder > Unvote > TAT
OLU -> Flower > Unvote > Hime
Flower -> Prof > Unvote > Voldemort > Kobe > Unvote > Ratchet > TAT
Mango -> Sworder > Ruffles > Xadlin
Xadlin -> Sworder > Unvote
Hayumi -> Prof > Kobe
TAT -> Sworder
RDK -> Xadlin > TAT > Xadlin
JW -> Sworder > Ratchet
Tweet -> TAT
Hime -> Kobe
Prof -> TAT
Melkor -> Xadlin

Count:
TAT = 6 (Magic, Prof, Sworder, Flower, Tpein, Aurelian)
Xadlin = 5 (Melkor, Ratchet, Mango, RDK, Tweet)
Kobe = 3 (Hayumi, BPD, Hime)
Ratchet = 1 (JW)
Sworder = 1 (TAT)
Hime = 1 (OLU)
RDK = 1 (Kobe)

Not Voting: Xadlin, Tpein, Psychic, Gad, RAEM, Ruffles, Poison, Juliet, Natalija

Day 2 - Final Votes
Votes:
Tpein -> RDK > Tweet
BPD -> Aurelian > Psychic > Xadlin > Tweet > Xadlin > Tweet > Xadlin
Magic -> Magic > Tweet
Flower -> Psychic > Hime > Tweet > Xadlin
Hime -> Tweet
Psychic -> Flower > Xadlin
Kobe -> Psychic > OLU > RDK > Tweet
Natalija -> Hayumi > Tweet
Tweet -> Xadlin
Juliet -> Xadlin
Ratchet -> Xadlin
RDK -> Xadlin
Xadlin -> Psychic
Prof -> Xadlin > Tweet > Xadlin
Sworder -> Tweet
Mango -> Mango > Xadlin > Tweet > Ruffles
Chuck -> Tweet > Xadlin
Aurelian -> Tweet > Xadlin
JW -> Xadlin

Count:
Xadlin = 10 (Tweet, Juliet, RDK, Ratchet, BPD, Prof, Chuck, Flower, JW, Aurelian)
Tweet = 5 (Hime, Magic, Tpein, Kobe, Sworder)
Psychic = 1 (Xadlin)
Ruffles = 1 (Mango)
RDK = 1 (Natalija)
Flower = 1 (Psychic)

Not Voting: Dofla, RAEM, OLU, Hayumi, Ruffles
 
Kobe said:
If I was scum who targeted you, there would be more people pushing you now. You are the one throwing shade with OMGUS vote, and absolutely refuse to withold information that can help resolve what happened with Hime, you, Prof and Aurelian. The thread work is that you lynched Xadlin? That is it? How does that clear you from being red mafia or hostile indie?
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Obviously from what I’m reading your view on Ratchet is clear, but how do you view Prof, his response to Ratchet’s claimed result and Hime’s info that confirmed his stated actions?
 
Xadlin = 5 (Melkor, Ratchet, Mango, RDK, Tweet)
Xadlin = 10 (Tweet, Juliet, RDK, Ratchet, BPD, Prof, Chuck, Flower, JW, Aurelian)

Flower, John Wayne, Juliet, X, Prof are the additional votes on Xadlin. From these 5, Prof and Flower voted TAT. X voted me in D1. John Wayne voted Ratchet and Juliet did not vote.
 
Ratchet said:
No, because I don't need to full claim here. I was asked how I knew I wasn't redirected, I explained why - if you dismiss my claim to this point, you'll continue to dismiss it. If you've reached this point, knowing what ability I used on Melkor wouldn't tell you whether I'm lying or not - this is purely you fishing for information without getting the consensus required for it first.
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I haven't read a lot of context but didn't you say the phase before you'd clear up your role this phase?
 
Hayumi said:
Obviously from what I’m reading your view on Ratchet is clear, but how do you view Prof, his response to Ratchet’s claimed result and Hime’s info that confirmed his stated actions?
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Prof claims to have vigged Ruffles. The motivation was meh. I thought there were better targets, like for example Tweet or RDK, or T-pein, or me. Ruffles being a vig shot based on his inactivity was just meh.

Other than that, how he handled the Ratchet claims and his passiveness around not pushing Ratchet was quite sus. Hime has some mechanical results but between Hime and Ratchet, there is a bit of inconsistency based on how they perceive the actions to work out. So I'm not sure what to make of that unless Ratchet stops witholding information.
 
Kobe said:
Prof claims to have vigged Ruffles. The motivation was meh. I thought there were better targets, like for example Tweet or RDK, or T-pein, or me. Ruffles being a vig shot based on his inactivity was just meh.

Other than that, how he handled the Ratchet claims and his passiveness around not pushing Ratchet was quite sus. Hime has some mechanical results but between Hime and Ratchet, there is a bit of inconsistency based on how they perceive the actions to work out. So I'm not sure what to make of that unless Ratchet stops witholding information.
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Lol I would have been a horrendous vig shot what are you on about
 
RDK, not sure why you are disliking that post when I have my name there. Those 4 names were the only names outside of Xadlin and TAT who received attention in D1/D2. Of course, they are a perfect candidate for vig.
 
Kobe said:
RDK, not sure why you are disliking that post when I have my name there. Those 4 names were the only names outside of Xadlin and TAT who received attention in D1/D2. Of course, they are a perfect candidate for vig.
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People receiving attention are not good vig candidates especially if they're active. You solve slots that can't be solved on play with vig shots.

Ruffles is a fine shot for a vig, it's unfortunate they didn't hint they could confirm themselves whenever but it is what it is
 
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