Evans
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Also @Ekkologix my town reads haven’t really changed from when I posted yesterday with the multiple posts
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Elaborate please, because her conversation with lethal looks like a big fucking waste of time to me, given she’s currently voting with him ?
Evans
Exceptional
On my phone but I agree. Need to check something about CP but some of his posts around how he did stuff with Aurelian as scum mates previously looked like constructs to distance eachother whilst trying to look good.
My brain may be malfunctioning but it’s a similar play I swear he’s done before as scum
Thing is tho they’re not trying to distance here, the thing that’s putting me off is that it feels almost too all-in, there isn’t even any plausible deniability built in
i tend to agree. thoughs @Magic
its outdated asfk yeah,, and probably aged poorly tho i still think there is a possibility cp is teammate with one of tpein/aurelian
also he didnt bus tpein, he just shaded him. tpein invites that onto himself by his posts. if cp doesnt comment on tpein after the last game then cp will get sused for it, so he had to do it
whats ur read of cp, fang, BPD rn?
aurelian gives u info on gram, magic, evans, melkor, and generally almost everyone as they all commented on him one way or another or chose not to say anything when wagon was growing. BPD not as much
Evans
Exceptional
I mean
If T-Pein is town, CP diverting onto Aurelian without any real push other than putting a vote down on his wagon (which he then unvotes and says he doesn’t buy him as scum) gives him plausible deniability and he looks good off it.
It’s the level of WIFOM play CP is capable of making that “would I vote/bus my partner then unvote and retract my scum read knowing it could make me look bad?”
put sworder in solid town as well after his comments RE: BPD
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Jokes?
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Definitely just town here.
But that’s not what hapoened
CP was on Aurelian first, then he moved to Tpein - what I’m saying is if tpein and CP were scum, that doesn’t happen. CPs MO as scum is to accept gifts as they’re given, he’s not going to add extra layers of deception like that
well aurelian and BPD dont make much sense as a team together and im glad tpein said it in his response to this that he has aurelian town and thinks people (me and magic) are derailing from BPD
the question now is, why do u scum read BPD to start with @T-Pein™
why?
yeah kekko is scum.
sad.
Not BPD?
Arne Slot
The Shiny One
Nah I got a bad feeling about the bpd lynch after rereading his earlier posts. Lethal is hard buddying you/me/magic and his "hope" town read on me feels fake af. TPein has just been hiding
Time for Evans:
He clarifies to Grammaton that he felt like Magic was testing him.
Paralleling this when I asked a question to Evans in the last game in a similar way, Evans reacted with extreme hostility and accused me of putting a smoking gun to his head about reads with iirc BPD and someone else.
- repeats his same stance and posturing regarding his desire to have T-Pein lynched
- gives a one-liner about my slot but otherwise nothing else
- circles back on Craig; tying himself to Grammaton regarding the arguing between me, him, and BPD. It strikes me as very disingenuous that he is trying to tie and shade Craig as being shady for his reservations and on how Evans was trying to handle the rest of the game by tunneling about T-Pein
- this post from Evans is #722 in the thread and at page 25 for me; despite this he doesn't give reads or input on BPD, Tweet, Magic, or much anyone else
Strikes me very fucking weird.
What prompted this town read?
Ekko gives a town read on Evans since he has T-Pein as one of his suspects as scum and Evans again quickly bounces a town read back to him on the heels of that.
This is two times in a row this has happened.
Seems a bit baffled by this.
So my mind is pretty scattered brained so I'm going to say here now:
- the meat of Evans interactions and activity are about T-Pein or with Magic, Tweet and Craig
- he has a little bit of involving himself talking to Psychic, Grammaton and Ekko
- token input on Raem and Lethal to be honest which feels forced
- he has offered nothing about BPD or most other players in the game for that matter until now that we're nearing EoD
I don't feel Evans is town here. I can see him being aligned with BPD if the latter is scum. There is precious little of his input about most other players and we've had a 50 hour day 1. This really can't be ignored.
Pretty early on is acting and behaving in a way that is typical of Evans: hostile, targeting T-Pein, wanting him lynched, and sort of acting petulant.
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v These posts highlight Evans getting annoyed, acting out, and generally not liking Grammaton, Magic, and Craig reaction to them. He gives a oneliner response to Craig saying it doesn't help the game or do much besides make it toxic and in a follow up post that Evans replies to Craig he just says it helps "drive attention", Grammaton echoes this sentiment. He also follows up about shading and undercutting Magic calling the tactic weak and not active enough and even calls him as misrepresenting Evans for doing it.
He clarifies to Grammaton that he felt like Magic was testing him.
Paralleling this when I asked a question to Evans in the last game in a similar way, Evans reacted with extreme hostility and accused me of putting a smoking gun to his head about reads with iirc BPD and someone else.
Evans comes off defensive to Magic's comment and is essentially accusing him of being lazy repeating the same pathos as the start of the last game.
Grammaton prompting Evans for activity again and input:
- repeats his same stance and posturing regarding his desire to have T-Pein lynched
- gives a one-liner about my slot but otherwise nothing else
- circles back on Craig; tying himself to Grammaton regarding the arguing between me, him, and BPD. It strikes me as very disingenuous that he is trying to tie and shade Craig as being shady for his reservations and on how Evans was trying to handle the rest of the game by tunneling about T-Pein
- this post from Evans is #722 in the thread and at page 25 for me; despite this he doesn't give reads or input on BPD, Tweet, Magic, or much anyone else
Finally a post that isn't involving Craig or T-Pein, ah its a nothingburger for Lethal. Almost like he's fence-sitting with this specific post.
This doesn't read well. Evans is saying he sort of likes Lethal's catch up but doesn't like/suspicious in a more benign way about Lethal's direct interactions with him or lack thereof.
Not sure why Evans is town reading RAEM but I guess its based around also wanting to mutually have T-Pein gone and ties it to himself aligning with Raem. The post before that Raem says he town reads Evans though.
Strikes me very fucking weird.
Evans again backtracks to the easy town read on Grammaton; seems like busywork with the quick player reads. Again seems like he's building up to either distance or close ties with Magic's play but he ends it with a question so not sure how to translate this fully.
Why? Why does he say Melkor looks good? Melkors key contributions in the game have been to say he didn't like the wagon on me and that he town read me, Ekko was saying he viewed Melkor as scummy and he wasn't getting the town vibes on him either.
What prompted this town read?
Okay
Repeats this, not really solving players, questioning motives, or do anything else, just mindlessly death tunneling T-Pein again.My vote is still on T-Pein and I said I still want him gone
Evans lying about his 'parity' as he claimed later with aligning on most reads or behavior in the game with Craig. He gets unduly defensive and twitchy again about Craig calling this out when Evans has done precious little else constructive in the game for solving anyone or anything.
Just like with Raem giving a town read on Evans for wanting to lynch T-Pein.
Ekko gives a town read on Evans since he has T-Pein as one of his suspects as scum and Evans again quickly bounces a town read back to him on the heels of that.
This is two times in a row this has happened.
Evans response to Ekko giving his updated reads list which involved pushing T-Pein from null/leaning scum to null/leaning town.
Seems a bit baffled by this.
Shades and insults T-Pein, nothing actually game motivated coming on the back end of this.
Seems defensive about Craig pushing Evans into his own read list as leaning potentially scummy. Not sure why he's shocked about this when Evans has done nothing else except follow Grammaton and Magic as town and a lesser extent Craig but the vast majority of his posts are just talking about wanting to lynch T-Pein or complain about being called out for it as being 'unfair' or shading him.
Evans keeps bringing it back to being about T-Pein to Craig.
This is after another post or two of his on why Craig has Evans as potentially scummy while looking back Evans has offered next to no reads or input around BPD's slot at all.
Evans post to Craig and Psychic. This is following him quoting several of Craig's posts and trying to shade/snipe at him for pressuring Psychic. As far as I'm aware, Evans has also zero interactions directly or indirectly with her prior to this point in the game's activity or timeline.
^Further evidence of the above I've stated about Evan's motives.
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^This one is to Magic. He's questioning Magic and it feels like he's setting him up for putting the smoking gun to his head here too.
This is Evans response to Tweet questioning him about his Raem town read and still pressing about T-Pein with Bird Boi pointing out Raem's list was essentially a definitive OMGUS in action.
Weird vote shift here.
^This is to Psychic.
Evans replies back to Craig, doesn't really articulate the shift in pushing him now. I guess this is double-backing from Evans getting frustrated or annoyed about Craig's earlier interactions with him on Psychic and gaslighting him earlier to tie his actions in pressuring Psychic. It also feels weird he wants to tie T-Pein into this as the justification for voting Craig.
Evans replying to Tweet. He's still defending his town read, I believe, on Raem here. He compares it to himself and it makes it seem like he wants to me at least, that he wants to tie familiarity for further allowance to justify any later presses involving Raem against someone like T-Pein or Craig or Psychic. He also relates this to the start of the game and tunneling T-Pein but I think this makes Evans look worse, not T-Pein.
Shades Craig again.
^More of that.
Then references it further and to his later change in vote on me.
So my mind is pretty scattered brained so I'm going to say here now:
- the meat of Evans interactions and activity are about T-Pein or with Magic, Tweet and Craig
- he has a little bit of involving himself talking to Psychic, Grammaton and Ekko
- token input on Raem and Lethal to be honest which feels forced
- he has offered nothing about BPD or most other players in the game for that matter until now that we're nearing EoD
I don't feel Evans is town here. I can see him being aligned with BPD if the latter is scum. There is precious little of his input about most other players and we've had a 50 hour day 1. This really can't be ignored.
Could you elaborate on this (the BPD bit)
I really would prefer you dissect it instead of giving your equivalent to a one liner and in effect just saying "this looks too good to be from Aurelian, he was being coached by his scum buddies and by that I mean probably Craig".
Oh well it is what it is.
VERY excited to hear some takes on Aurelians post just now 
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