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Final Fantasy XIV Mafia - Game Thread

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He might be paranoid. But seems you sus him hard for his response. Hmmm.

Very good wasnt expecting this heated back and forth so early.
 
May I just ask why exactly you keep repeating that I’m following BPD? It doesn’t stack up because my stated reason for voting you has 0 to do with anything he said,
You claim this, I'm not under the impression I believe your saying this though.
it’s specifically to do with how you responded - what he said is virtually immaterial which I’ve been pretty clear about.
Then you are being crystal-clear disingenuous. If you wanted to be analytical and playing to win as town, you'd be fully aware that BPD has a long history of making very bold flat-faced accusations without much proof behind them and zeroing in on a single post I made while lying about it being a delibarate attempt to "copy" my entrance from the last game should've been a red flag to you about him, not me.
What exactly is the benefit of being ‘careful’ here - what am I supposed to be waiting for? If you do stuff that makes me think you’re town, I’ll move my vote, just as I do any other game?
This seems to be defensive on your part. Especially since I already exhaustively explained why its more suspicious your following in BPD's footsteps on something you know has zero tangible proof to operate as me being suspicious for not bothering with an initial rebuttal but I suspect you already know that and are just ignoring it.
Why would I need BPD to work in tandem with if I were trying to mislynch you?
Why wouldn't you?
I’ll clear it up for you - I think you are pretty blatantly scum and will be strongly advocating for your lynch. I think you are wilfully misrepresenting the reason for my vote as you think it’s your best chance to survive
I'm not unduly bothered by you advocating for my lynch, even as misguided as it is. I'm more annoyed you are intentionally misrepresenting my entire response to X, then having the absolute nerve to say I'm taking your words and misusing them when you started this with a strawman about me calling X scum when I said it could be scummy. I'm not going to be lynched today either way and I know what my slot is.

You need, and have failed several times now, to explain how my actions are "blatantly" scum.
 
This feels like a very loaded question, do not like.

For the sake of argument, like 90% of players he is prone to saying stuff that makes no sense, however the best way to weigh it up is get as much on the record as possible, no?
You are the one who needs to have the gun to his head.

You have yet to make even a single case on how I'm being "scummy". I'm waiting.
 
Yeah, but your role is weaker. I will eventually have to buss you, as your Godfather I need to secure my position.

Did Ratchet gave me that role on purpose? LOL!
lowkey sound fake bc i never claimed being part of your team. im actually a traitor with no fake claim and you outed urself over it. sad.jpg
 
This feels like a very loaded question, do not like.

For the sake of argument, like 90% of players he is prone to saying stuff that makes no sense, however the best way to weigh it up is get as much on the record as possible, no?

ya but he's more prone to it than most. he can dig himself into a hole by standing his ground due to the way he perceives things playing out not exactly playing out what it's like in reality.

such as him attributing your push to bpd's one line or questioning if it's possible you two are working in a tandem effort against him.

overall i do see the divergence from his current play and defense compared to last game, but it might be related to other things.

what do you think of bpd?
 
ya but he's more prone to it than most. he can dig himself into a hole by standing his ground due to the way he perceives things playing out not exactly playing out what it's like in reality.

such as him attributing your push to bpd's one line or questioning if it's possible you two are working in a tandem effort against him.

overall i do see the divergence from his current play and defense compared to last game, but it might be related to other things.

what do you think of bpd?
No, its more that Grammaton is being absolutely disingenuous and misrepresenting anything I said and then falsely accusing me of doing that to him. If you look carefully back on my exchange with him so far, he doesn't actually address anything about the fact his vote and tunneling on me immediately after BPD drops a literally bullshit post on the spot with zero evidence or proof to it, just a one-liner and fucks off from the thread.

Thinking I'm attributing this entirely to BPD isn't true I said simply it was 'possible' if they were aligned it comes off very suspicious how quickly he does that while BPD evacuates from the thread.
 
No, its more that Grammaton is being absolutely disingenuous and misrepresenting anything I said and then falsely accusing me of doing that to him. If you look carefully back on my exchange with him so far, he doesn't actually address anything about the fact his vote and tunneling on me immediately after BPD drops a literally bullshit post on the spot with zero evidence or proof to it, just a one-liner and fucks off from the thread.

Thinking I'm attributing this entirely to BPD isn't true I said simply it was 'possible' if they were aligned it comes off very suspicious how quickly he does that while BPD evacuates from the thread.

his case is that instead of acknowledging bpd's one line or bullshit accusation properly you just called him a retard without putting any effort into it(in a similar vein to how you are now in response to gramma's case).
 
You claim this, I'm not under the impression I believe your saying this though.

Then you are being crystal-clear disingenuous. If you wanted to be analytical and playing to win as town, you'd be fully aware that BPD has a long history of making very bold flat-faced accusations without much proof behind them and zeroing in on a single post I made while lying about it being a delibarate attempt to "copy" my entrance from the last game should've been a red flag to you about him, not me.

This seems to be defensive on your part. Especially since I already exhaustively explained why its more suspicious your following in BPD's footsteps on something you know has zero tangible proof to operate as me being suspicious for not bothering with an initial rebuttal but I suspect you already know that and are just ignoring it.

Why wouldn't you?

I'm not unduly bothered by you advocating for my lynch, even as misguided as it is. I'm more annoyed you are intentionally misrepresenting my entire response to X, then having the absolute nerve to say I'm taking your words and misusing them when you started this with a strawman about me calling X scum when I said it could be scummy. I'm not going to be lynched today either way and I know what my slot is.

You need, and have failed several times now, to explain how my actions are "blatantly" scum.

This should be fun. In order:

- I think the person who can’t decide if he thinks someone who is said is scum is actually scum or misguided town (you, for the avoidance of doubt) has a significantly greater ‘don’t believe what they’re saying problem than the person who presented a case, gave you a chance to respond and then decided you’re full of shit

- 2nd paragraph is dismissible. Already confirmed what BPD said is immaterial, it’s how you chose to rebut it. Dunno how many times I need to repeat this.

- There’s nothing for me to defend here tho. Im asking you to explain what exactly I’m supposed to be waiting for, you’re saying im not exercising any caution, why exactly do I need to? It’s your point, explain it

- if we were scum together, co-ordinating an attack on town from the off doesn’t seem like a good plan, and whilst it’s self meta and thus somewhat dismissible, you’ll struggle to find anyone who’s played with me as scum who thinks im likely to do this, simply because it offers no benefit and a lot of potential drawbacks

- Well, we’ll see won’t we? Better hope you’re sitting on the goods!

- I think this game has all the hallmarks of your typical scum game - caught early, no substantive answers, more worried about perception (you’re worried about looking like suspecting me would be OMGUS, which is scum mentality cause if you’re town, you’d just think you’d caught an overextending scum). Need I go on?
 
Ya this . kinda emotional player. Not tactical
Do you have anything to add besides being a worthless cheerleading commentator?

his case is that instead of acknowledging bpd's one line or bullshit accusation properly you just called him a retard without putting any effort into it(in a similar vein to how you are now in response to gramma's case).
No, he has no case. Grammaton's entire pivot to me was based around BPD, therefore BPD is contingent to this. He hasn't acknowledge or refuted that X's post was worthless for quite awhile now, which is telling he really doesn't have much to go here on.
 
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