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Game Ranked Hades Mafia - Game Thread

Poyser
Ratchet
Ultra
Aurelian
Hans

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Dofla is claiming Orpheus and Vanilla town.
Also I don't think Watson would claim something like this as scum.
 
At some point yall need to stop treating Orca like the class Gerbil and hold him accountable for his positions, he has 0 progression on Poyser since reading him at start of the game. If T-Pein posted this crap he'd probably be in the dirt.
 
They're so nice >.>

That's so rude!
This feels like a pocketing attempt. Given his enthusiasm overall in the beginning I do read him sincere tonally.
Town
Nibel

Xadlin
Magic
Lord Melkor
Hans
Dr. Watson
Polar Bear
Alco
Dofia
Ekkko
Scum
He's started his lists (NAI) early here, I see.
Why vote Nibel over me here? I'm very clearly trying harder.
-1 for lousy reasoning
The Orca had a townie vote. I think that Hans has hard town told by this point. I am very easily pocketable so >.<
I do agree with his take on Orca & Hans. Why he noted he's easily pocketable doesn't compute. Need further elaboration to pick his brains. Luka, if you strongly town read both of them, are you saying you're worried they're pocketing you somehow due to it?
They’re town and you guys are scum!
I can go into more depth later, sorry! Kind of hate explaining on my phone.
You need to expand more often - alot of these posts give nothing to work off of for most of us.
Nope! I forget why they were evil, so I need to go into my pc to iso! Nothing about paragraphs.
Did you?
T-Pein hopped in thread saying "who are we killing", which is categoric with the scum gane I just finished and they aren't contributing anything.
Ekko doesn't have a single good post and I'm fine with either 1. Pressuring them to play the game or 2. Getting them to town tell; thus far all they've contributed is filler in a wolfie way. Also kind of an opportunistic vote on me to guise that they're s!hunting!
T is a coinflip, fwiw. Many players regardless of alignment do open with this sort of thing, so this is quite a weak observation to me.
I can explain my list very well? I would just very prefer not to.
What's the reason for this? Why the reluctancy?
I don't love the question list. Doesn't feel like its contrubting much, but I wont call it inherintly wolfie. Going into the null section to be honest >.<

I think that this might be a possible distancing attempt with them. Nothing definitive.
Scattering reads all over the place is going to be a drag to sort through later on, my guy. You have definitive reads (or so it seems), what is it about certain players that make you struggle with reading them?
What motives, what characteristics, what types of profiles match with scum and town? You haven't delved into this very much if at all - specifically why you even read me as Town to begin with.
The way I make my reads is I change it. I set everybody to a baseline so to speak and I move them up or down with townie or wolfie posts. This both makes me easy to pocket, and makes me very hard why I remebmered what. I would prefer a name so I can ISO them!
Tracks.
> we shud make it 4 vote lynch luka competitive asfk
This is the first post that gives me read pings. There's two reasons as to why. First of all, its placing another vote on a slot with 4, so it already isn't doing much in terms of pressure. Not to mention it was a high poster at the time, so that makes little to no sense. Also hoping on the bandwagon of course. Second of all, it just feels like a lackluster start. It doesn't give thoughts on the gamestate or other players; and yes, there were things to attain. It just exists to exist.
>according to the data, yeeting indies increase the chance of having a fun game by 60% just look at the previous games here proposal: town and scum shud unite to yeet indies early gram will put a filthy serial somewhere, take that mother trucker out
Another weird post. Something to note is that they did this in the WorstGen game, so that could be trying to follow an established meat. However, in the WorstGen game there was a census giving is known indies; we don't even know if there are any here. Which is why directing scum hunting to indie hunting makes no sense coming from a townie mindset, especially when to my knowledge they consider games serious here.
> not very sold on luka being town yet because he's surely not gonna play the same way that got him scum read last game here regardless of alignment if he wants to actually survive. he'd pivot toward playing how he played in his WG first game the biggest difference is he struggled to form reads...
Just wanted to highlight this. Kind of NAI however the sole fact that im the only slot they're focusing on is weird. Feels like they're under pressue from the votes but dont want to fully play the game for spew reasons. I also don't like the fact that they're shading my slot for not much reason? It's just really unneeded to verbalize.
> thats not rly what im doing tho, i have a set expectation of his play, if he doesn't hold it he can be yeeted, i just don't like how ppl give him this easy pass also its not like he can replicate this at will anytime, it's a whole playstyle consistency. i think he struggles with handling reads...
So this is just wolfy for a few reasons. You shouldn't have a set expectation of my play given I play so much games and you've only seen me in 2, one as each and I do have off games, as does everybody. So the first part is ultra wolfie just due to providing an excuse for what can be said later. Also more focus on my slot, and semi-incorrect meta.
> why is xadlin and ratchet green why is me alco and tpein red
Note for me since I need to respond to this.

Anyways, alot of there interactions are only with my slot and nothing else. Alot of it feels strange too; contributing nothing to the gamestate. Just trying to feel as though they're doing things.

Re ISO-D Aur
I'm fine with just locking them town
> Magic you seem really defensive right now m8. Aside from Luka and you saying Craig is the hardest player for you to read, you've just double downed on defending Orca more than necessary for a day 1 kickoff.
Feels like town who thinks they've caught a scum
> Don't agree. I called this out earlier too, pushing a wagon and going after a then inactive slot isn't reactive. It's suboptimal play assuming he is town. Already said you do more solving with active players then ones that are absent.
Townie Mindset Post
> Yeah and I was wrong on you in fairness too. And uh our vig last time for shooting you. Either way I want to see if she can replicate her town self all over again in this. I'm saying basically you know Melkor is usually an easy player for you go push or pressure, so it's weird how you barely...
Townie Mindset Post
Few more but I'm to lazy to link them
Consisent townie mindset throughout posts, solving feels genuine; if they flip we get alot of spew either way

A few reasons.
First of all, in the WG game where you were doing the exact same indie hunting start you came off much more genuine. You were just trying to have fun and nothing was stopping you, even with some pressure. Here basically everything you say I cant see in good faith.
A second reason is your supposed seriousness of this site; you admire it and revere it and your start was jumping on a LHF wagon by a slot that town told 1 post into the game. Doesn't make sense to come from a twonie alligned perspective.
A third reason is the lack of content proportional to posts; you seem to be doing nothing but giving idle comment, not analyzing any slots. You haven't commented on Ultra for example, or directly called him an allignment nearly as much as youve thrown suddle shade on them.
A fourth is possible pairing reasons with Alco, in which yo soft defended; as well as Dofia. I think that you flipping scum gives us a bunch of spew.

Overall, I cant see anything you do with good faith. If you are Town what I would do is stop trying to defend yourself. Try to give reads and leave a legacy worth remembering; its blatent that you're flipping today unless you claim a strong role.
More of this. Town points given.
ratchet for agreeing with me
xadlin for townie mindset
i said those two
tpein for mimicking the gmaeplay I saw on WG
Alco for doing nothing in te thread while they're there and active lurking
youre red due to having 60 posts contributing nothing defending 2 scum canidates not claiming not giving reads and all ur pushes are omgus
1. No
2. ?
3. Elaborate
4. Elaborate
5. Context since I'm skimming most of the thread
Town
Nibel
Hans
Dr. Watson
Xadlin

Ratchet
Aurelia

Magic
Ultra

Voyer
The Orca
Polar Bear
Game

Lord Melkor
T-Pein

Dofia
Ekko

Alco
Scum

This is likely aligned! Feels confident, smug, outfacing. Not hiding anything, in that they genuinly always think they caught a scum.
Observational
For Polar and Orca respectively, there push seems really bold. I think it's to bold for scum them to do, they would likely try to hop on a wagon that's going to die. In the event that you flip town they gain no credit, and infact I kind of want to hell push them. If you flip scum they gain a bunch of credit.

I want to call Lethal town. It's a few small things but:
> Not sure what to gauge from that first page amongst all the fluff. Meh. Why all the focus on Luca? Eh 2 pages in. Chore to read. 2 games at once ugh
This reads really genuine. In my games I tend to focus on scum games first, Them not interacting with this game feels like well- genuine townieness!
> Is this even remotely trying to do anything? Or just word salad to appear productive?
Fakable, but genuine question.

It's very small but regardless, I'm fine with killing this during the night.
So your ISOs feel like they've progressed naturally - when you're scum, you tend to work yourself into a frenzy and wait endgame to establish them (imo.)

I think your slot is town, but you need to put in more work.

Phone posting sucked for me originally, but you have to suck it up or you're going to quickly go into the null pile.

I do like your ISO and how early on you did it, but I'm not comfortable discounting you switching up your play as potential wolf here.

Tl;DR
The potential natural flow as Town!Luka vs wolfing

+ Your enthusiasm strikes me as sincere, possibly due to not rolling wolf
+ Your ISOs and read lists aren't given via pressure, you're keeping track of the thread and player behavior and what's alignment indicative or not
- Your play as wolf might be reverse psychology
- You're pocketing me assuming due to my read on you I won't rescind it

No offense, I don't know if you have the ability to do this type of thing as wolf, but we shall see

Strong town unless it needs to be re-evaluated and you ring alarm bells
 
I wouldn't say it flips my read, but I do think there is something to be said for it - if a scum team is struggling for claims someone claiming easily in that team is jarring.

I didn't like this because it seemed like a needless elaboration from you based on gamestate reasoning. There's a lot of ways this can be easily explained, including Dofla having a role sheet that is mostly passive, or him just taking the safe route of a vanilla town without much strategic forethought.

What's more relevant is if this is something you can see Dofla doing, drawing a relation to whatever Ekko/Watson is doing is meh especially before they've flipped
 
Orca, your read on Ultra is prolapsed ass

Are you sure you're just not spite voting and mischaracterizing because you want him to be scum? Or are you implying you simply don't trust him day 1?

He's playing his town game to a T and taking a leadership position which is fairly easy to spot from the getgo

Can you explain
 
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