I know he didn’t beat Ultimate Kars through conventional means
But it does state his Hamon was very powerful and compared it to Kars
Araki is the one who wrote this so maybe he just views post-training Joseph as very powerful
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But it does state his Hamon was very powerful and compared it to Kars
Araki is the one who wrote this so maybe he just views post-training Joseph as very powerful
He is, his Hamon tears through the Pillar Men post training like nothing. It’s just him being above his grandfather that I think is debatable since he still relies mainly on tactics and diversion over direct combat to get the leg up on his opponents
It’s debatable but at the same time the people Jonathan fought weren’t as strong as the people Joseph fought
Said Pillar men beaten from Joseph’s 200 IQ moments which he otherwise wouldn’t have stood a chance against,
For example, Wammu nearly one-shotted him with his Sandstorm had Joseph not interrupted it at the last minute during their chariot fight
Sure but he’s also physically clashed with all three of them
Broke Kars’ steel slicing blade, broke Esidisi’s drill horn, and clashed with Wamuu’s legs
I mean, that part is non-negotiable. For all of the Vampires in Part 1 and the feats we give them, they are ultimately nobodies to the Pillar Man by something we call the Cycle of Life.
The Pillar Men have shown things that go completely beyond anything a Vampire can do in JoJo and we know that Joseph has insanely good Hamon even compared to Jonathon from the beginning, the issue was that he sucked at actually focusing the shit down till he got the Rings of Death and had to really train for it all.
The only reason to believe the Pillar Men are weaker than Vampires is to go too much on the destructive power of the Vampires without realizing the story structure puts the Pillar Men >> Vampires from the start.
Even DIO ultimately needed a Stand to matter at all against Jotaro which is primarily why he never used any of his Vampire tricks:
They wouldn't have mattered at all against a Stand User.
@Papa Nier how good is Rem?
Should I get it I don't really have a good support. I didn't get quina, and Aerith BT.
Should I get it I don't really have a good support. I didn't get quina, and Aerith BT.
Rem is very good with heavy hitters and has very good turn manipulation that would always end with her damaging foes with Absorb Magic via Siphon Sphere if you still have the buff up and works with every action. Good healer too.@Papa Nier how good is Rem?
Should I get it I don't really have a good support. I didn't get quina, and Aerith BT.
In all seriousness, aside from geometry angles now being OP, Whis slaps everyone on team A. Jiren and Vegeta can just sit back in the background like good little boys and watch what happens when an angel is allowed to actually fight for real.
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