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OBD Convo #45: Roll For Initiative

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Adamant soul

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Is Shad on drugs or what?
Avatar actually does spell things out for the viewers.

Reminds me of a "why don't people with TK crush enemies' brains from inside instead of throwing stuff?" discussion I've been part of.
TBF that's usually more of a mind-set restriction where there really isn't anything actually stopping them from doing that other than it just not being in-character for them to do so. There's no reason Twilight Sparkle couldn't just rip somebody's heart out of their chest with TK other than the fact it's OOC for her, a hypothetical bloodlusted Twilight would therefore be fucking terrifying.

Whereas Bending has specific restrictions on how it works that generally keep anyone from doing the more broken stuff.
 


"What if you ignite the air in someone's lungs?" - That is NOT how Fire bending works. They either have to use their OWN breath to create fire or use fire that already exists.

"What if you make the water in their body explode?" - Damn it Shad, that is NOT how water or blood bending work. How the hell are you making it explode? I assume you meant to have it EXPAND, but we haven't seen anyone do that so.

"You have to be a BLOOD bender to do that?" - Blood benders ARE water benders mate, just high level ones. How do you think they're bending the blood in the first place? It's a little disingenuous to try and separate them from this discussion. Metal, lava and lightning bending should also be included.

Anyway the actual answer based on what we've seen in the show is air or water being the most outright deadly at top levels. In terms of just shooting elements at people like they were doing, it would be lightning bending.

This is like in his Legend of Zelda vid where people were dogging on him because he said to get rid of the jewel because it’s useless on the master sword

Not knowing that’s Fi
 

Adamant soul

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This is like in his Legend of Zelda vid where people were dogging on him because he said to get rid of the jewel because it’s useless on the master sword

Not knowing that’s Fi
Or when he talked shit about lightsabers in Star Wars not understanding that Jedi and Sith DO in fact have superhuman speed to justify the use of the thing, hell he tried to say Jedi specifically DON'T have superhuman speed.

I understand he's trying to look at these from an at least somewhat realistic point of view but it's usually to the point he completely ignores important pieces of context. Like how Cloud wouldn't be able to wield his sword realistically despite that being a setting drenched in magic shit.

Kind of the reason I'm not even remotely interested in reading his fantasy book that he wrote. He's too fixated on things needing to be realistic, even in fantasy stories. :maybe
 
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"What if you ignite the air in someone's lungs?" - That is NOT how Fire bending works. They either have to use their OWN breath to create fire or use fire that already exists.

"What if you make the water in their body explode?" - Damn it Shad, that is NOT how water or blood bending work. How the hell are you making it explode? I assume you meant to have it EXPAND, but we haven't seen anyone do that so.

"You have to be a BLOOD bender to do that?" - Blood benders ARE water benders mate, just high level ones. How do you think they're bending the blood in the first place? It's a little disingenuous to try and separate them from this discussion. Metal, lava and lightning bending should also be included.

Anyway the actual answer based on what we've seen in the show is air or water being the most outright deadly at top levels. In terms of just shooting elements at people like they were doing, it would be lightning bending.


What about combustion bending? That one always came off as the most powerfull in terms of raw destructive power.
 

Adamant soul

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What about combustion bending? That one always came off as the most powerfull in terms of raw destructive power.
It could be but this is about which one is actually the DEADLIEST, not simply the strongest so it's pretty safe to say the ones that can allow you to suffocate people or control their blood are the most deadly since they'd allow you to kill the enemy the easiest.
 

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Rocksteady about to go down just like Volition studios did and Playground Games is about to whenever that disastrous Fable game releases

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Because people totally want the new Fable game starring what looks like a cross between Abby from the Last of Us 2 and the ugly step sister from Shrek
 
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Masterblack06

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anything in bleach
on par with the infinity gauntlet

The MCU has poisoned niggas minds jesus christ

:smh
Yeah, yeah and if the Pokemon weren't okay with the way they were being treated, some trainers would be getting their shit fucked up. Hell arguably they are much more willing to do this than Digimon are, who put up with a whole lot of bullshit before they'd turn on the kid.
Bro i'm so tired of people not realizing this shit. They've watched the anime, they should know by now that if the pokemon dont want it they can just leave whenever they want and the pokeballs cannot stop them
 

TrueG 37

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This is actually the craziest part because Kakashi should have literally known that Naruto is Minato's Son.

:eksip This also pretty much shows that kishi didn't really planned shit out and just inserted the back story along as the story progress.
Kakashi knows the rasengan

Chides Jiraiya for teaching it to him despite teaching Sasuke Chidori and Jiraiya telling him months before that an organization of highly ranked ninjas are trying to kill Naruto. Including one that just got done beating his ass.


Best teacher :mjlol
You can see Square tried to amp the sex appeal a bit but at same time they are still shy trying to appeal the ethics department with a lot of stuff, the anatomy looks pretty bad when you pay attention, also no ass :skully
Meh most Final Fantasy females barely have any ass tbf:mjpls.
 
Or when he talked shit about lightsabers in Star Wars not understanding that Jedi and Sith DO in fact have superhuman speed to justify the use of the thing, hell he tried to say Jedi specifically DON'T have superhuman speed.

I understand he's trying to look at these from an at least somewhat realistic point of view but it's usually to the point he completely ignores important pieces of context. Like how Cloud wouldn't be able to wield his sword realistically despite that being a setting drenched in magic shit.

Kind of the reason I'm not even remotely interested in reading his fantasy book that he wrote. He's too fixated on things needing to be realistic, even in fantasy stories. :maybe
Yeah the lightsaber shit makes me mad because even Corridor Digital kinda makes the same complaints and it’s equally fuckin lame
 

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Oh, that absolutely vile site that had the nerve to call the anime / manga community and the country Japan itself a “pedophile culture” WHILE hypocritically defending actual pedophiles at the same time is closing its doors?

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Music to my ears.

Hopefully this will be followed up with an investigation of every journalist in that company and the inevitable discovery of child pornography and email exchanges with Jeffrey Epstein found in their computers.
 
This is actually the craziest part because Kakashi should have literally known that Naruto is Minato's Son.

:eksip This also pretty much shows that kishi didn't really planned shit out and just inserted the back story along as the story progress.
He did have the Team 7 picture of Minato in like Chapter 16.

So he knew for a long time but thought that teaching Naruto his father’s jutsu would be a bad idea.

So he’s actually just incompetent

Chides Jiraiya for teaching it to him despite teaching Sasuke Chidori and Jiraiya telling him months before that an organization of highly ranked ninjas are trying to kill Naruto. Including one that just got done beating his ass.
Best teacher :mjlol
he taught Sasuke, who’s literally stated to be driven by revenge, Chidori as an assasination technique against Gaara despite having numerous other lightning techniques that can work against Gaara. But Jiraiya is the irresponsible one for teaching Naruto his dad’s jutsu
 
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