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The problem with the skeptic argument is that it’s literally just “there is no evidence” to which the appropriate response is “the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence”. After which you proceed to construct the magnum opus and yes there is evidence of God found all over the universe and in three planes, astral, mental and physical (the physical evidence will be the final nail in the coffin.)

But just consider the history of man for an instant. If we trace its roots back to antiquity we see a common thread of creator gods and lesser gods. The sun and the sky is most common, time being the enemy. This has devolved into fairy tales of the oral variety such as Disney’s princes who save the princess, and then more into modern fiction. Just as an example darkseid’s anti-life equation is inspired by Pythagoras who believed “all is number”. Pein from Naruto was inspired by Buddhism, dbz by journey to the west, etc. so by these patterns we understand that all of this is coming from the mind of God.
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God, Wisdom, and the Chess Metaphor

Let me start this post with a big caveat. Metaphors are useful for conveying ideas about specific points of reality and inadequate for conveying the entire complexity of our lived experience. The chess metaphor falls short in explaining the plan of salvation that God has for His kingdom. Still...
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"Iyo Sky vs Bianca Bel Air seemed like the perfect choice storyline and name value wise, not to mention the fact the King and Queen of the Ring finals have no storyline behind them hurts their hype factor."

I don't agree. Frankly I think Iyo vs Bianca was SO obvious that making the swerve was actually the right thing to do. Add on top of this that the goal is to make the King and Queen of the Ring Tournaments feel important so IMO you actually DON'T want the finals to be overshadowed by the past history/feuds of the people involved since, at that point, it's not about the tournament anymore.

I'm much more excited about the Cinderella underdog story being told through Lyra's run in the tournament than I would have been if they just went with the expected match. Assuming Nia does win on Smackdown, this adds to the underdog story even more because Nia is not only a proven name but is a freaking massive monster heel. All of this is of course helped by Lyra already having proved she can put on great matches.

On the Gunther vs Orton side, the storyline is Gunther trying to assert his dominance by becoming King of the Ring while Orton is trying to achieve the one thing he hasn't done in his career. The storylines are actually there, it's just that those storylines are actually centred on the tournament itself which makes the tournament and its finals feel all the more important.

The ONLY thing I'll agree with Santi on in this front, is that the winner NEEDS to get SOMETHING for winning beyond the crown. Preferably a shot for the winner's respective big title. If all they get is ultimately a meaningless moniker then it just makes the tournament a waste of time.
 
You know the Helldiver Sub-reddit are a circus, when they literally praising the one dude trying to fix shit stepping down as a great move.

Helldiver Ceo stepdowns -> Hire a new Ceo, New Ceo Shams Jorsomething I forgot.
Known for games that literally bogged his last position with DLC and shit.
DLC priced as worst as apple fucking products.

So just to give you an idee
Dude was Paradox interactive CBDO - Put Lots of DLC on their games.
Same dude that requested steam to police the games for its reviews.
Has DLC as high as a 1000$.. yes fucking DLC cost that much.

:eksip absolute clowns.
 
So caught up to one piece, Why is Luffy turning into something like a messiah instead of a random dude that ate a fruit by mistake.

Why does he need to have the same personality as Joyboy? Why is him being the person who accidentally ate joyboy's fruit the only one solving this issue, why is those other like shanks and dragon still not stepping up considering how big the issue is now.

Like seriously. Shit is too forced for this.

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shade0180 said:
So caught up to one piece, Why is Luffy turning into something like a messiah instead of a random dude that ate a fruit by mistake.

Why does he need to have the same personality as Joyboy? Why is him being the person who accidentally ate joyboy's fruit the only one solving this issue, why is those other like shanks and dragon still not stepping up considering how big the issue is now.

Like seriously. Shit is too forced for this.

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That explains why I’m seeing so much of Naruto and One Piece fans butting heads.

That whole description sounds like a repeat of Naruto being the “Child of Prophecy” shit everyone similarly hated with how it contradicted the themes of Part 1
 
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Yup pretty much. There’s nothing wrong with a protagonist being the Chosen One in itself. It’s just bad when it goes against what’s previously established.

Naruto was never the “underdog” in Part 1, just a late bloomer that was destined for greatness from the start by inheriting not just Kurama but the chakra of a literal demigod alongside fellow Fate Brother Sasuke.

Destiny isn’t a thing and hard work always beats natural talent though, amirite?

Can’t say how bad One Piece handles this for Luffy because One Piece bored me and I couldn’t get into it
 
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Yup pretty much. There’s nothing wrong with a protagonist being the Chosen One in itself. It’s just bad when it goes against what’s previously established.

Naruto was never the “underdog” in Part 1, just a late bloomer that was destined for greatness from the start by inheriting not just Kurama but the chakra of a literal demigod alongside fellow Fate Brother Sasuke.

Destiny isn’t a thing and hard work always beats natural talent though, amirite?

Can’t say how bad One Piece handles this for Luffy because One Piece bored me and I couldn’t get into it
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That pic basically summarizes Arlong Park Forums the last decade. I don't know about current Arlong Park Forums because I don't visit the site. But I remember their Naruto thread where they mocked about all this. And, like a curse, the same is happening to One Piece now. Also, not represented in the pic, they criticized the fact that Pain and Karin were Uzumakis. And, ironically, the same is happening with the D's in One Piece.
 
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