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[Dr. Watson]

Precisely

The more I play with him the more I can get a better grip on his angles and deepwolf tactics, this doesn't look anything like it

The frustration is also absolutely 100% NAI fwiw

He's had the urge to piss in my cereal before when I'm either alignment because I make him want to tear his teeth out with a toilet plunger

So I mean

 

[Atsumori]

How many people on Alco?

 

[Ratchet]

Fwiw aside from Alco my legacy (and maybe I'm here to push it, but just in case) is going to be hime, then Sky/Xadlin. For hime, I feel like if she comes in with this belief she probably just duels me to make it a thunderdome, I don't really see why she would be happy to compromise with me by voting a town read of hers. She could have at least asked for Tweet given I have him middle of the pack and she has him at scum.

Kweh

 

[Flower]

Btw I think RDK should be more or less confirmed now. He's our only claimed protect and scum would likely just kill Nibel here if they had no protection to fear.

 

[Dr. Watson]

First order of the day is to check whether X deliberately avoided mentioning CP.

Copy this, so you can quiz me if I dismissed this r this doesn’t feature in my reasoning

Nice to meet you too. I didn’t know they subbed into X. I don’t like votes on high counts without reading back, so unvoted

I mentioned above that we should check to see if BPD avoided mentioning CP.

I feel this is a good way of identifying BPD’s alignment, because scum are unlikely to bus early and CP is a very good and very established player. So X/BPD would be less likely to bus CP.

That leaves two options really; he can defend CP or he can ignore it.

- I don’t think he’d defend CP, because he doesn’t have a substantial amount of thread away (last time I checked). Also he probably wouldn’t want to put his head parapet for a scum buddy at a formative junkture. Especially, as he himself is a frequent mislynch

- In the early stages, it’d be more logical to just ignore the wagon and hop on a more appetising mislynch. There’s often a multitude of different directions early doors, so plenty of chances for other people too fall in rhe cross hairs . He also wouldn’t have to directly tie himself to a scum buddy, so could mobilise and decide whether to bus CP or work directly with CP at a later point.

My vote was because Tweet just linked a post from Flower, suggesting that Psychic had been avoiding CP and vice versa. As such, I felt it was a sensible place to stick my votw

I don’t really know who the better players are, but the more junior/less established players I think will mostly be ignoring CP.

I suspect it’s a junior/less experienced scum by the Magic kill. Probably a scum team that fears town leadership, so it would reconcile that it’s a scum team without much (as evidenced by the Magic kill).

This reconciles with a junior scum team. I think these are all worth pushing

that’s based on Magic’s reads - so I’m reasonably happy to YEET BPD . The blue colour may be off, as I’m lazy but we know it’s a predominantly town pushed wagon. I’ll have a check when the Orcs voted. If it was after four votes were made on BPD, he can be town

No, I think you’re town.

I think a scum member with an increasing wagon on his scum buddy would almost certainly bus his teammate. Parking their vote on a town player is such a left field move, I dont believe it being legit.

Scum have full fakes and this could be the exact same verbiage as the fake and the Real McCoy, so we’ll leave a modkill for Another Night (hope you appreciate the German music references)

I don’t think he should have done it, but not worth a modkill imo. Though I understand if he gets one

Vote Haza

Thoughts on:

A) The utility of the role for mafia
B) The overlap between him and Hime

Scum have the indy cop.

So I think town would be more likely have the census.

It would reconcile each team had a way of identifying that there was more than one indy.

That said; it’s a pretty good case by Ratchet on Evans so it’s not a strong conviction

Scum having an incel cop and a census would give them a lot of ammo in finding the third parties;

- Scum would know of their existence from the census
- Scum would have a specialist role to identify them.
- Town’s cop would get an innocent result on the incel

Vote Hime
Vote Alco

He’d be getting lynched w/o the role. So I can see a world where he’d optimise a chance to reduce being mislynched.

I don’t think it’s inherently scum to play for survival fwiw. Optimal scum play is damaging town, I’d say town’s chief role is to show themselves as town and identify others as town.

Vote Alco

lets go for Alco

Ah this explains partially why he was prioritized over Ratchet - I think scum assumed since Rug was adamant on this read and had the ability to alter the direction of wagons he was a partial threat in terms of thread control

There's also the census theory he laid out - there's probably a lot of very valid things he demonstrated, too, and they were likely fearful he had a role wherehe could fish for the inconsistencies

Basically he could have been a detriment to scum endgame, as he also wants necessarily LHF either

 

[Dr. Watson]

This is a shoddy angle but bear with me

Do we think the reason Xad wasn't modkilled (if he had to be, it wasn't quite clear; if not disregard) it was because it wasn't a legitimate claim

Just wanted to sweep this under to rug
(Tehe)

 

[Dr. Watson]

Don’t waste your time

Alco I’d be fine with lynching too (over orca) already said I don’t believe the PR but I’d want to check a few things before committing

Bam

 

[Flower]

I had Rugrat as solid Town right off the bat. As scum or Indie he's like "says random shite, refuses to elaborate further, leaves." No sign of that here, so no idea why Hime is saying he was sus.

 

[Dr. Watson]

How many people on Alco?

I don't think it's anywhere close to a hammer if that's what you're asking

 

[Ratchet]

This is a shoddy angle but bear with me

Do we think the reason Xad wasn't modkilled (if he had to be, it wasn't quite clear; if not disregard) it was because it wasn't a legitimate claim

Just wanted to sweep this under to rug
(Tehe)

I don't recall seeing anything that would be modkillable.

Kweh

 

[Dr. Watson]

I had Rugrat as solid Town right off the bat. As scum or Indie he's like "says random shite, refuses to elaborate further, leaves." No sign of that here, so no idea why Hime is saying he was sus.

Best case scenario is Hime is straight up bussing and knows she can't win others over and just doesn't have enough pull by herself
(As seen via trying to go for the Ratchet angle)

Worst case scenario is she genuinely is lost and scared shitless over a deep wolf Ratchet, but my question is why that seems to be the primary concern over anything else - no examining the lynch results further, no mentioning previous wagons by highlighting potential equity among players

I think scum are trying to latch onto angles that they think could possibly be taken into consideration, especially for players with a history of being paranoid over certain slots
Which is why I'm so persistent over Ratchet being town, this is a red flag to me

 

[Dr. Watson]

Errrr

You can convey results you get verbatim, your role PM itself not so much

@Ratchet this is what Rug quoted earlier from Tweet which is what I was referencing

I just didn't know whether what he saw was actually modkillable or not, if it was, Xad goes even higher up in the PoE

 

[Flower]

I would be fine with Hime dueling Alco today. Doubt the lynch will be anyone else today and if she's scum her saving up the duel just makes me anxious. The only Town utility I can see for that role is during endgame if scum has parity since she wins if there is a tie, but she's not going to make it there anymore anyway.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Wasn't*

 

[Dr. Watson]

I would be fine with Hime dueling Alco today. Doubt the lynch will be anyone else today and if she's scum her saving up the duel just makes me anxious. The only Town utility I can see for that role is during endgame if scum has parity since she wins if there is a tie, but she's not going to make it there anymore anyway.

Hell no, fuck that mech

We just derped majorly with Dest and a potential duel is at the bottom of the list

I'd be more comfortable extending an olive branch to her to *not* use it - the idea of giving her an option to is not wise imo

 

[Dr. Watson]

It's either her or Alco today

 

[Flower]

It's either her or Alco today

Yeah, so whether by lynch or duel doesn't really matter lol.

But yeah, probably best not to use it. I agree with Ratchet tho that Town Hime would have likely used it on him by now and made it a Thunderdome.

 

[Poyser]

Day 4 Vote Count

Alco (5) - Melkor, Hime, Ratchet, Retro, Flower
Hime (1) - T-Pein

With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch. You have 22 hours remaining.​

 

[Dr. Watson]

Oh NVM it is close to a lynch

 

[Flower]

Relevant posts:

so im thinking atleast one of the vanillas gonna be scum, leaning melkor
one of the PRs gonna be scum, leaning evans
and one of the duellist/double lynch/vig claim gonna be scum, one of hime/x

b-but kekko senpai, it cant be this easy

shut the fook up

there is literally none cooking here, i see bunch of bickering and i cba to pick a side

noow we find the last 2 once everyone full claims

for indie, it's likely not one of the killers. if it's not x i have no clue who. maybe its flower

ratchet not gonna do shit but cry as usual

Ratchet and Ekko likely not aligned from this.

@Xadlin can u claim ur targets for n1 and n2 again pls. its flower and who?

was he town reading flower

Xadlin prob not scum from this either.

dont shoot the claimed bg to test it ffs, what if they r town and get blocked, who even suggested this

RDK has scum equity with him from this, but since they didn't kill Nibel and he's our only claimed protect he's very likely Town anyhow.