the holdup is cuz of ratchet who wants to give more time for his scummate luka to establish himself in the thread so that ratchet can more "organically" come to a townread on him and he can push xadlin next day with ease and town will dick ride him to a lossThe holdup for a lynch like this one points to a more positive sign for me that we're going the right direction at the very least
Scum seems to be in no hurry to flip Hime
Don't think anyone would make the 5D unconventional play where they'd stall just to give a false sense of security (props to anyone who does in the future tho)
So
Yeah, plenty of time
I don't think you believe this to be honest.the holdup is cuz of ratchet who wants to give more time for his scummate luka to establish himself in the thread so that ratchet can more "organically" come to a townread on him and he can push xadlin next day with ease and town will dick ride him to a loss
Why are you letting them take control of the thread, then?the holdup is cuz of ratchet who wants to give more time for his scummate luka to establish himself in the thread so that ratchet can more "organically" come to a townread on him and he can push xadlin next day with ease and town will dick ride him to a loss
I don't have a better answer to your question watson because I haven't really given any thought to what if I'm wrong. I don't think along those lines, after those 4 I'm least confident in Luka and Tweet, that's all I have currently
Kweh
Hang fire for now please. I want Luka/Xadlin to take the point here, I can explain why after
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Sky. I am admittedly getting nervous of the prospect of having Luka/Xadlin around for endgame as we are going to need to rely on their votes, but that can be sorted through tomorrow. Between the two I'm more confident hime is town than Sky, mainly Sky has repeatedly at crucial moments defended scum in Alco and to a lesser extent around CP which is the main issue I have between the two. Hime, at least, has her pushing Aurelian to shoot CP in her favour.
I don't know if I'll be here tomorrow, but all I can stress is focus on making the game simple rather than trying to solve with everything at once. Boil it down to as few tells and important moments as possible and I think we have a solid PoE in place.
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Strictly on an individual basis, this is what I've got:
Scum - Xadlin, Luka, hime
Town - Flower, Melkor, T-Pein
That leaves Tweet, Retro, Lethal.
Of those 3, I think Lethal is most likely to be town.
I'd like everyone to do something similar to the above to establish a consensus - my consideration today is twofold. A scum flip is obviously ideal, but I'm also trying to consider what a playable LyLo would look like, because we should be 7v3 today. At worst, 6v3v1 but I think Sky not being Indie more or less puts that to bed.
Need to try and make the PoE take the lead today to an extent, don't throw any votes around yet please.
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So my consideration with Luka is that I've seen him as scum before and this game he's nothing like that. He was similarly low energy to start, but as the game went on he started posting big ISO's and made a show of doing "townie things". There is none of that here.
I don't think it's clearing for him. But I am struggling to get to him being my primary scum read because of that. I'm starting to reach the point though where I think we basically have to clear these slots in some way so yeah I don't hate it.
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They've voted scum and co-operated, Melkor especially. I don't know why you think, after basically not playing the game, that you can just insist we lynch someone without any real case behind it and that it will ever go over? Like what games are you used to that that actually flies?
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The emotional response to what I said felt townie to me but if town, it's so selfish it beggars belief.
Anyway,
Vote: Hime
This is the best compromise I have today. I think her play today especially has been pretty weak too - she's almost exclusively just defended herself rather than finding a proper alternative, and her decision to put Luka down as her choice over Retro doesn't sit well with me. Pretty sure she had him at "probably town" a few days ago and I don't really see why that has been reversed.
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HimeI rest my case to be honest.
Anyway I was thinking over the numbers and the thing I mentioned earlier actually doesn't apply as much because of MyLo vs LyLo. It's still kind of relevant because it would mean we'd have to no lynch tomorrow but I'd like to avoid it. Basically, if hime is town we can't have her and T-Pein around in LyLo because he's going to vote her and that will be the end of it. I was hoping to see some urgency from her because she's surely aware of his position and the game likely will hinge on her convincing him otherwise, I've seen none of that so she can go.
I think the correct lynch today is hime. There is the conflict with X's role, she's in everyone's PoE and someone we can assume is town is tunnelling her to death anyway. If I were to go for my preferred lynch I would pick Xadlin. If I'm dead tomorrow please respect that part of my legacy.
Best case is hime flips scum and we have more wiggle room but we don't have much left as is and it's only getting smaller. Basically half of you just haven't played today and it's getting pretty annoying. Like can you at least try
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i dont really care what u do or dont think ratchetI don't think you believe this to be honest.
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im literally busyWhy are you letting them take control of the thread, then?
@Dr. WatsonSo my consideration with Luka is that I've seen him as scum before and this game he's nothing like that. He was similarly low energy to start, but as the game went on he started posting big ISO's and made a show of doing "townie things". There is none of that here.
I was the one that brought the ISO speed race up to begin with in contrast to Fuji's game@Dr. Watson
id like for u to read this in ratchets own words and tell me what u think luka is doing
I mean that's just not true. Literally every single player has you in their PoE, either an interchangeable slot or not. Again this whole thing is reading more to ke like frustration than any solving - your progression on me has gone from "I'm paranoid again" to "lock scum" because I'm saying we should lynch you. There is no consideration for my wider play all game at all. In fact, that seems to be the case for most of your reads.i dont really care what u do or dont think ratchet
more ppl prefer luka today and thats a fact
i said i have finals today and tmrw morning
i will be free to do isos and stuff in like 19 hrs from now
the amount of patience being extended to a guy who cant seem to make up his mind and is content with holding the day hostage is beyond me
he said me and LM r his only scumreads yet cant even qualify that nor is he willing to vote me today??
that is such a turn from yesterday
also he is literally doing what u said he does as scum with the grand big acts of towniness randomly
yet u r completely entertaining it and even coming around to him being town
y?
i dont really have a case for uI was the one that brought the ISO speed race up to begin with in contrast to Fuji's game
Let's say you have equity with Luka - if you're mates, you're either trying to stew over this in scum chat to make a clearing for him to muddy the waters and reads on him
If you're time, you're just doubling down and this isn't agenda driven
Like I said, Ratchet and scum in general would have more consistency on a slot like this - there would be less room for backpedaling, not more
Inconsistency over reading a slot like this is a general townie trait to me but we can agree to disagree
Like, scum is literally in the perfect position to seal the deal. Why would they wobble in and out over a slot that's already a delicious snack?
Have you also explained why you haven't elaborated on why I'm in our PoE? You've made your case for Lu and Ratchet, but me?
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