Ranked One Piece Wano Arc

[Ultra]

Alright so I'm going to be pulling up some quotes from what I consider the most crucial period of Day 1 which is after the duel was announced and when the lynch outside of Kurumi was being debated upon

A lot of this is selective - it's a fuckload of quotes even so, but I try to capture the scope of what I feel is commentary that looks good/bad from existing players. Feel free to go back and check for yourselves

Spoiler

Sorry I was sleeping.

Duel has been activated between @T-Pein™ and @Kurumi. It wil act as additional lynch between these two. Please vote for the winner until EOD.

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1. @Sigismund;
2. @Fujishiro;
3. @GoddessBlade
4. @T-Pein™
5. @Kurumi
6. @Psychic
7. @Whicker
8. @CraigPelton
9. @Great Potato
10. @Ultra
11. @Aurelian
12. @Ekkologix
13. @Kurosaki Ichigo
14. @Magic
15. @Doddsy
17. @Hans Tweetenberg
18. @Bachi
19. @Lethal
20. @Rena
21. @Ratchet

Starting point, there was technically some votes around the assumption Kurumi was being dueled but before this it was somewhat negligible

vote tpein to win

vote lynch doddsy

may not be able to read everything, i trust in town to do the best!

Ekko's entry, noted.

I am saying I think Doddsy is aligned with Sky.

Aurelian's Entry, noted.

Vote T-Pein to win
Vote Doddsy

Ratchet's entry, also noted.

Vote T-Pein to win the duel

Ichigo's entry, absent of another placed vote. Should note that they were very scarcely around since Sky died and have now popped up more right when the second vote is in determination.

Mmm, I suppose even though there's been literally not a single reason given for it that is actually based on what happened in the game.

I'm Sanji, Amp, x shot

Doddsy comes in and claims

Why are we wanting Pein to win the duel? Strapped for time and cba reading his posts :shrug:

Lethal also makes an entrance after having largely been MIA

@Doddsy How does the amp work functionally here? Like in what way does it upgrade?

Thoughts on Bachi claiming today?

Ratchet begins questioning Dodd, then surveys if Bachi should claim.

Vote: Pein to win the duel

Lethal voting for duel absent of a second vote.

It makes them harder to prevent is as far as I'd be willing to say, to avoid giving out too much info

Doddsy you're about to be lynched, why is giving away your role your concern here?

If I'm lynched, what difference does it make, if I'm not, I'd rather it still have a chance to be effective

It not making a difference is exactly why you should be willing to divulge the minutiae of your claim. You are not a WGer, you understand the value of role is minimal compared to the player its attached to.

A lot of back and forth between Doddsy and Ratchet, nothing here remotely close to being unpartnered. From this, could be Ratchet helping set the stage for his entrance, mostly neutral.

As an aside I think Craig might be scum, his argument that Sky would just know T-Pein was faking the duel there doesn't really stand up and merely suits his interpretation. @Psychic What do you think of Craig so far?

@Rena Thoughts on Craig?

Ratchet suddenly brings up Craig and draws in Flower

I'll be transparent here: I think she has but I really am not vibing with T-Pein's play this game and we've seen scum utilize duels many times in ranked games which is a case for concern. At the very least he should claim his flavor.

Aurelian seems to momentarily entertain the idea of the duel going the other way

I do, and I'm being pushed to claim purely on the back of people misrepresenting events. Me stating what will still prevent the role and what will not prevent the role is worthless information in deciding whether or not you buy the claim

I'm not hiding anything, literally my role says that certain things will work and certain things won't. There's no benefit to me really giving it away as to what is what

I don't really like how you're answering my question by bringing up T-Pein who has nothing to do with what I asked. I don't think T-Pein is cleared over his duel at all. He made it claiming that he thinks Kurumi will flip town too.
False, more information can help because currently the role as described is very vague.

Possibly not.

I sure do love that we used the duel and now have to decide a lynch in 6 hours, who could have seen this coming?

Here Ratchet is complaining more about the Duel's usage - consistent.

Vote: CraigPelton

Ratchet's vote comes after Flower's

Not sure what was wrong with my answer. The topic of Kurumi is tied with T-Pein, whose operating strangely from his norm and I don't think it's strange to bring that up.

I think your right that he took advantage of the situation and her flip doesn't clear him at all.

Aurelian seems to suggest that Kurumi is scum and that T-Pein can be aligned which is basically just shit.

Feels like him claiming Sanji would be a bold move if he is scum given we know Kaidou's gang are the villains in the game.

It's not really vague, it can prevent certain roles from interfering with the shot, but others can still prevent it so it's not a guaranteed hit still. I just don't feel telling everyone what can effectively counter the role is really good business when it's unnecessary info

Sanji is one of the main protagonists of the story.

For fucks sake not this shit again

You've played previous Melkor games and know how he uses lore with flavor, you know this is a gamble if your willing to risk it. I'm not gonna really debate it any more but I'll hold my reservations about it.

Flavor nonsense accepted by Aurelian and rebutted by Kiku

Not arguing that.

Go a few pages back, I posted it.

Only change would be shifting Doddsy light town.

Aurelian stamps progression onto Dodd town

Vote lynch Doddsy

Unvote Vote CP

I think Bachi is probably my preferred go to but in the interest of self preservation

Dodd takes the avaliable CW

I went over it a little bit ago - I don't like his position on Ekko/T-Pein and his take regarding Sky spew feels manufactured to evidence his read rather than the other way around.

This is in regards to CP. CP's read in question involves Ratchet and how Sky approaching him wasn't enough for a town lock, but CP still produces a town lean. This is a very strong response.

Parts of his play I think is out of his scum range but his early content was heavily agenda driven IMO and I don't want to give him a pass. GTH town but he should be removed soon.

In regards to Ekko.

Why would you claim flavour because your scum reads (Magic and I) asked for it?

Vote: Bachi

Actually not sure why he would do this as scum though either

Vote: CraigPelton

Pivots on to Bachi here, interesting since that leaves Dodd a bit unguarded, but almost immediately pulls back

Isn't he a chef? That can fit Amp reasonably well.

This is just blatant overreach

He's the crew's chef; feeds them and keeps them healthy with Chopper, so technically it can fit.

Same but it;s Fang, so easier to believe he assigns importance to this crap

As the CEO of CraigPelton scum reading I veto his lynch today

Vote Pein to win duel
Vote lynch Doddsy

THE BEAR enters with a very based assessment.

Cool, why? I don't actively want him lynched outright anyway, I have my reservations with Doddsy as is but

Tbh I think I might as well just not bother

Ratchet immediately sounds defeated for he knows this spells his doom!

Yeah I can understand this.

Vote Lynch Bachi

Aurelian pivots to Bachi

Unvote

Nope, I was against this all along. You people wanted it, you people can go solve it

Ratchet seems very demoralized and tosses his hands in the air. Possibly a genuine reaction, but it's a little heavy handed

Don't really think Bachi is the way tbh

This looks ok.

Yeah I don't care, you guys can do what you want. I've made my argument, take it or leave it

I haven't claimed CP was a home run and I dont know why that needs to be the burden of evidence when he has otherwise done, what, exactly? I also said I didn't like his position around Ekko because it feels like he is, what do they say, good guying him.

Ratchet seems genuinely frustrated he's not being listened to - I believe it. The quitting seems a bit performative because I'm not sure his confidence in this argument is earned.

He has barely done anything Ultra. I give you all of this but your point is self-contradictory - you argue he would be pushing to get himself out of the box while also arguing he would be demotivated, when being demotivated is a perfectly reasonable explanation to not bother really trying to get himself out of "the box"

Continues arguing the point - again, I think it is a bit of an over extension.

What's your read about Lethal everyone?

I think he's scum, made an accusation at me, has synergy and equity with Bachi along with Sky and hadn't been seen since.

^ Ichi and Aurelian cooking up some Lethal

Vote T-Pein to win duel

GP enters casting a duel vote

Would this not be satisfied by him calling Psychic his Queen? Forces an interaction he can fall back on while he does exactly nothing with it.

On gut I think Doddsy might be town lol, that or he just doesn't really care which is harder to reconcile here

This is where I began to feel Ratchet was forcing the issue, he's finding multiple angles to scum read CP by and comes right out and tosses Dood a town read for very un-ratchety reasons

yes very funny, so why can't kurumi be town that just rage quiited for reasons independent of sky's flip

yeah shes very susceptible to rage quitting as either alignment

Just wanna note that Ekko is arguing that Kurumi could be town when positionally as scum he has 0 incentive for this

Again, contradictory. You simultaneously argue he would both mail it in and try harder.

Your contention that it's premature is pointless too because the wagon is the formation of pressure to better inform the read. You hard veto it before he even reacts to it for ??? reasons

Ratchet is just dogging me hard. I think he's aware my say-so atp is important so turning me over here is important for his case to go through. Implies unsolicited defense.

yeah arguing for sake of being open minded to possibilities

unfortunately i wasnt able to play as much as i hoped, but i think a doddsy direction is not a bad one. i have read exactly up to post 180 + playing live for a bit. i understand my opinion does not mean much now but a second lynch helps everyone, i'll comb over thread at night if i find time

+1 for kekko

No the wagon is a wagon at this point

And the second part of that sentence?

I dont strongly town read him but why are you risk averse with Craig but not magic?

What part was unclear?
I don't really think it's impossible to reconcile his posts as frustration. That said, I agree, but if you're playing out of consideration for gamestate then you don't need to take a swing here at all. Magic is one of my weaker townread but I do think what he has been saying makes sense.
It's not really fucking around though, CP has done next to nothing. Not really strongly seeing the case on Doddsy either but the claim is w/e, I would not be surprised to see him flip town.

Oof. Especially considering Ratchet had a vote casted earlier on Dodd, he should be well aware.

I mean if someone wants to give me a reason I'm being voted I'm happy to discuss it.

The only reason I've seen so far is I attached to Sky's vote on Tweet, which is wildly incorrect as our reasonings were completely different.

What did you manage to accomplish before Sky's lynch that makes you, in your estimation, town?

You're stacking the deck against him here by requiring him to make an argument you know he cant. He said he has nothing to defend with, not that he should be lock town.

Ratchet is coming out swinging *for* Doddsy and not letting me question him without interruption, in spite of the fact that he just took issue with me doing this

Sure, agreed

I genuinely have no idea

I honestly didn't realise we were as low on time as are

You could try actually answering the question of why exactly I'm scum instead of trying to divert into asking me to prove my town ness. I never look like town, it's part of my charm

What sort of threat to a miller is being made vanilla if you claim, when your role is 1 shot?

+1 T-Pein

CAP

A Miller Duelist that can't claim anything until his duel is used, including Miller.

Don't really think T-Pein fake claims Miller here though.

Don't buy it.

Probably because you providing a satisfactory answer to this question is really the only thing I'm interested in, otherwise you can go with your whole holding up doing fuck all on a pedestal. I don't think this expectation of yours applies to anyone else either given how easily you voted CP.

Thanks for playing.

Anyways, I've had Town vibes for T-Pein, even if I don't support his earlier tunnel vision on Ultra.

Well I'm about to go to bed anyway, 1:10am for me.


What expectation? To do nothing? I haven't done nothing in any way. The sheer fact you can not give a single reason to actually want to vote me should realistically shatter any sort of momentum this vote has.

I dunno what sort of answer you expect for this question, I pushed Tweet with a reason that made sense to me? Then I went to bed and came back after work where I was already voted a bunch? Genuinely a mind boggling question

I mean in summary of why I shouldn't be voted, when asked Ultra is quite literally incapable of giving a reason for me to be voted and he's probably the one pushing the hardest.

If you still want to go for it I mean by all means, there's literally nothing more I feel needs to be pointed out here

Night all!

How am I pulling a Kurumi, I'm going to bed not giving up on life.

As I said, if anyone can actually give a reason then that'd be one thing but I can't defend against nothing

vote lynch magic

i'll accept the offer

...You ask for a case, and then say the one thing you've done in this game doesn't count because you had a reason lol

Yeet Doodley

Would prefer flipping T-Pein, Craig, or Bachi first tbh. Also forgot Whicker was in the game.

who r u voting, just consider me a +1 to it rn

I'll consider the point before conceded Ekko, thank you for playing.

Vote: Doddsy

Vote for hire etc...

bet

vote lynch doddsy

I sure love how most of the players most strongly in favour of getting a second lynch and really maximising town momentum have mostly opted to sheep elsewhere instead of actually doing anything for themselves.

This is a slot not many talked about

Actually I'm okay with this too, I have Lethal as one of my top suspects as well.

Vote Lynch Lethal

I can, actually I have notes, but I wanted to keep them for myself

@Magic
@Rena
@Ekkologix
@Hans Tweetenberg
@Doddsy
@Whicker
@Ultra

Can I interest you in wagoning Lethal who I'm positive is not playing his town game?

@Psychic If you are town you are making it very hard. Come on, you think Craig is scum - go get him!

I doubt Luffy will be claiming.
I feel like he did something similar last game though. I've been alright with some of his posting today actually, though not convinced. I don't like his claim.

I'm just offering a counterwagon, might end up voting for Doddsy at the end tho

dibby coming back after 1 year only to roll scum again, you hate to see it

I have my suspicions, not sure why he flipped flopped on unvoting for her after she threw in the towel only to have a change of heart and start advocating for her to be dueled. Though he does seem to believe this is a bastard game if Sanji is a fake claim, so I guess being fooled by a Yamato claim is somewhat consistent with that. I'm willing to hold off on them for the time being.

Vote Lynch Dobbsy

Regardless, I'm interested in seeing how this Dobbsy situation plays out. Now that things are heating up it seems there are a few last ditch efforts going to direct the lynch elsewhere.

I had to cut this short since I'm tired as shit, basically I think Ratchet came off as disproportionally invested in saving Doddsy about as much as I'd expect him to as scum, being careful not to go completely overboard but doing everything he effectively could to prevent him going over until it was basically too late. Aurelian is arguing against Dodd too, but, well, Aurelian.

Not too many chirps around counterwagons otherwise. From this alone I would say good odds one of the quieter posters (GP/Goddess/Ichigo) were keeping up and seeing where things were going before placing a vote down on Dodd. I would expect active players who are bussing/already successfully bussed to hedge a little more and let other avenues of suspicion take hold.

will wrap up tomorrow

 

[Ultra]

who do u have as his teammate rn?
the issues from day 1 arent very reliable. wasnt was town saying what ratchet was saying in day 1. only difference is magic's playa round sky in the early game is much better than ratchet's

the reason why i dont like this is id prefer if we did ratchet yesterday. not sure why u went with magic first if u had suspicion on ratchet that was unresolved and u just kept it there

You're silly as fuck for saying this, very silly.

 

[Great Potato]

Ratchet's fate is sealed.

Vote Lynch Ratchet

 

[Ultra]

Day 1 was by far more important than whatever happened yesterday. Categorically.

@Hans Tweetenberg I think since Kurumi gave up that behavior around the main lynch before it was locked in is the most important period to examine since anyone was up for grabs, and Dodd had 2 extra kills once healer was taken out. It would have been important to preserve him. A lot of handwaving is being done about bussing here but I think an active competent scum player doesn't just do *nothing*. So I those who meet the criteria best are Ratchet and the inactive pool

 

[Ultra]

And at the very least if that assumption isn't true we basically have to take Ratchet off the board to ever come around to figuring out who filthy goober giga bussed, can't have that conversation without taking out those who looked actively like they were saving scum.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

You're silly as fuck for saying this, very silly.

will read ur long post tomorrow

i dont mean it this way, day 1 had been great in clearing town cuz of spew, however some townies like magic were on the opposite side on couple of things, it shudnt automatically make them scum

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

And at the very least if that assumption isn't true we basically have to take Ratchet off the board to ever come around to figuring out who filthy goober giga bussed, can't have that conversation without taking out those who looked actively like they were saving scum.

i havent yet read the parts where ratchet was *saving* doddsy tbh

 

[Great Potato]

Ratchet flipping scum should exonerate a few players. CraigPelton, Ekko, and GoddessBlade would be tough to spin as scum if Ratchet is mafia.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Alright so I'm going to be pulling up some quotes from what I consider the most crucial period of Day 1 which is after the duel was announced and when the lynch outside of Kurumi was being debated upon

A lot of this is selective - it's a fuckload of quotes even so, but I try to capture the scope of what I feel is commentary that looks good/bad from existing players. Feel free to go back and check for yourselves

Spoiler

Starting point, there was technically some votes around the assumption Kurumi was being dueled but before this it was somewhat negligible



Ekko's entry, noted.



Aurelian's Entry, noted.



Ratchet's entry, also noted.



Ichigo's entry, absent of another placed vote. Should note that they were very scarcely around since Sky died and have now popped up more right when the second vote is in determination.



Doddsy comes in and claims



Lethal also makes an entrance after having largely been MIA





Ratchet begins questioning Dodd, then surveys if Bachi should claim.



Lethal voting for duel absent of a second vote.









A lot of back and forth between Doddsy and Ratchet, nothing here remotely close to being unpartnered. From this, could be Ratchet helping set the stage for his entrance, mostly neutral.





Ratchet suddenly brings up Craig and draws in Flower



Aurelian seems to momentarily entertain the idea of the duel going the other way







Here Ratchet is complaining more about the Duel's usage - consistent.



Ratchet's vote comes after Flower's



Aurelian seems to suggest that Kurumi is scum and that T-Pein can be aligned which is basically just shit.











Flavor nonsense accepted by Aurelian and rebutted by Kiku





Aurelian stamps progression onto Dodd town





Dodd takes the avaliable CW



This is in regards to CP. CP's read in question involves Ratchet and how Sky approaching him wasn't enough for a town lock, but CP still produces a town lean. This is a very strong response.


In regards to Ekko.







Pivots on to Bachi here, interesting since that leaves Dodd a bit unguarded, but almost immediately pulls back



This is just blatant overreach



Same but it;s Fang, so easier to believe he assigns importance to this crap


THE BEAR enters with a very based assessment.



Ratchet immediately sounds defeated for he knows this spells his doom!



Aurelian pivots to Bachi





Ratchet seems very demoralized and tosses his hands in the air. Possibly a genuine reaction, but it's a little heavy handed



This looks ok.





Ratchet seems genuinely frustrated he's not being listened to - I believe it. The quitting seems a bit performative because I'm not sure his confidence in this argument is earned.



Continues arguing the point - again, I think it is a bit of an over extension.





^ Ichi and Aurelian cooking up some Lethal



GP enters casting a duel vote





This is where I began to feel Ratchet was forcing the issue, he's finding multiple angles to scum read CP by and comes right out and tosses Dood a town read for very un-ratchety reasons





Just wanna note that Ekko is arguing that Kurumi could be town when positionally as scum he has 0 incentive for this





Ratchet is just dogging me hard. I think he's aware my say-so atp is important so turning me over here is important for his case to go through. Implies unsolicited defense.



+1 for kekko









Oof. Especially considering Ratchet had a vote casted earlier on Dodd, he should be well aware.







Ratchet is coming out swinging *for* Doddsy and not letting me question him without interruption, in spite of the fact that he just took issue with me doing this







+1 T-Pein

CAP

I had to cut this short since I'm tired as shit, basically I think Ratchet came off as disproportionally invested in saving Doddsy about as much as I'd expect him to as scum, being careful not to go completely overboard but doing everything he effectively could to prevent him going over until it was basically too late. Aurelian is arguing against Dodd too, but, well, Aurelian.

Not too many chirps around counterwagons otherwise. From this alone I would say good odds one of the quieter posters (GP/Goddess/Ichigo) were keeping up and seeing where things were going before placing a vote down on Dodd. I would expect active players who are bussing/already successfully bussed to hedge a little more and let other avenues of suspicion take hold.

will wrap up tomorrow

k i lied, i read it all, sheesh ratchet invested much more in defense of doddsy than i thought, im sold on it, this + rest of my suspicion on him is enough for me

given that doddsy was the poisoner, ratchet wud of certainly loved to preserve the role to atleast use it once

vote lynch ratchet

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

which means the BEAR shud of listened to the CLOWN yesterday about lynching ratchet

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

if ratchet flips town i want everyone of yall ningens to claim tomorrow

honestly do it even if he flips scum, there shud only be 1 more left

 

[T-Pein™]

Someone more familiar with Ratchet's game, is he usually this defeatist when he is town?

He is an emotional manipulator

 

[Ratchet]

Conversely Aurelian and even Ratchet are all over this flavor angle on Doddsy and shoring it ul

Qualify this.

 

[Ratchet]

Someone more familiar with Ratchet's game, is he usually this defeatist when he is town?

The end of last phase he started going into his woe is me routine about he wished he would have been lynched instead of Magic because he'd be gone next phase, and then he steps into this phase about how he knows he's going to die but to carry on his will once he's gone.

I would expect Ratchet to have more bite against the prospect of being lynched if he was innocent, especially with the fresh perspective of a new phase. Magic also started doomer posting yesterday and turned out to be town, but his goose was much more cooked at that point; Ratchet waited until the fairly even split vote swung clean in Magic's favor to throw out that he'd prefer to be lynched instead.

It's not defeatist at all. I know most of you just can't reconcile the idea of being lynched for the benefit of the game but that's where my slot is at the moment - strongly defending what I can might lead to my lynch being delayed but sooner or later it is going to need to happen.

Also this is a very poor representation of my progression - I had been saying that I should be lynched before the post you're thinking of, straight up I said earlier in the day that motivation is going to play a part in this for me.

 

[Ratchet]

Alright so I'm going to be pulling up some quotes from what I consider the most crucial period of Day 1 which is after the duel was announced and when the lynch outside of Kurumi was being debated upon

A lot of this is selective - it's a fuckload of quotes even so, but I try to capture the scope of what I feel is commentary that looks good/bad from existing players. Feel free to go back and check for yourselves

Spoiler

Starting point, there was technically some votes around the assumption Kurumi was being dueled but before this it was somewhat negligible



Ekko's entry, noted.



Aurelian's Entry, noted.



Ratchet's entry, also noted.



Ichigo's entry, absent of another placed vote. Should note that they were very scarcely around since Sky died and have now popped up more right when the second vote is in determination.



Doddsy comes in and claims



Lethal also makes an entrance after having largely been MIA





Ratchet begins questioning Dodd, then surveys if Bachi should claim.



Lethal voting for duel absent of a second vote.









A lot of back and forth between Doddsy and Ratchet, nothing here remotely close to being unpartnered. From this, could be Ratchet helping set the stage for his entrance, mostly neutral.





Ratchet suddenly brings up Craig and draws in Flower



Aurelian seems to momentarily entertain the idea of the duel going the other way







Here Ratchet is complaining more about the Duel's usage - consistent.



Ratchet's vote comes after Flower's



Aurelian seems to suggest that Kurumi is scum and that T-Pein can be aligned which is basically just shit.











Flavor nonsense accepted by Aurelian and rebutted by Kiku





Aurelian stamps progression onto Dodd town





Dodd takes the avaliable CW



This is in regards to CP. CP's read in question involves Ratchet and how Sky approaching him wasn't enough for a town lock, but CP still produces a town lean. This is a very strong response.


In regards to Ekko.







Pivots on to Bachi here, interesting since that leaves Dodd a bit unguarded, but almost immediately pulls back



This is just blatant overreach



Same but it;s Fang, so easier to believe he assigns importance to this crap


THE BEAR enters with a very based assessment.



Ratchet immediately sounds defeated for he knows this spells his doom!



Aurelian pivots to Bachi





Ratchet seems very demoralized and tosses his hands in the air. Possibly a genuine reaction, but it's a little heavy handed



This looks ok.





Ratchet seems genuinely frustrated he's not being listened to - I believe it. The quitting seems a bit performative because I'm not sure his confidence in this argument is earned.



Continues arguing the point - again, I think it is a bit of an over extension.





^ Ichi and Aurelian cooking up some Lethal



GP enters casting a duel vote





This is where I began to feel Ratchet was forcing the issue, he's finding multiple angles to scum read CP by and comes right out and tosses Dood a town read for very un-ratchety reasons





Just wanna note that Ekko is arguing that Kurumi could be town when positionally as scum he has 0 incentive for this





Ratchet is just dogging me hard. I think he's aware my say-so atp is important so turning me over here is important for his case to go through. Implies unsolicited defense.



+1 for kekko









Oof. Especially considering Ratchet had a vote casted earlier on Dodd, he should be well aware.







Ratchet is coming out swinging *for* Doddsy and not letting me question him without interruption, in spite of the fact that he just took issue with me doing this







+1 T-Pein

CAP

I had to cut this short since I'm tired as shit, basically I think Ratchet came off as disproportionally invested in saving Doddsy about as much as I'd expect him to as scum, being careful not to go completely overboard but doing everything he effectively could to prevent him going over until it was basically too late. Aurelian is arguing against Dodd too, but, well, Aurelian.

Not too many chirps around counterwagons otherwise. From this alone I would say good odds one of the quieter posters (GP/Goddess/Ichigo) were keeping up and seeing where things were going before placing a vote down on Dodd. I would expect active players who are bussing/already successfully bussed to hedge a little more and let other avenues of suspicion take hold.

will wrap up tomorrow

I don't know why you bother wasting your time with this drivel to be honest. For the vast majority of it you take perfectly reasonable posts, attach scum motivation to them, and then roll with it.

I will and have concede the Doddsy defence angle, but at the same time, there really must come a point where you think "why or earth does he do this". The flavour part, for example, is a huge reach to use as a defence because the idea really was that flavour isn't really going to be reliable at all, a sentiment I had expressed to Bachi in plainer terms.

My initial vote on Doddsy was to go with the consensus so no, I don't "need to be aware", I said his lack of care felt townie but also admitted that it could just be him not bothered about the outcome at this stage as scum, and that's really about it.

Like I feel I've said a thousand times already today, flip me today, but start solving outside of my slot otherwise you're just wasting the day. Honestly I'm starting to think if you're town your continued presence is just going to lead the town in the wrong direction - you will probably dismiss this for now but you have a poor read on the current game state. You're going to have to reconcile this at some point. I don't knownif youre gunning for MVP or something which is why you feel the need to make these posts but it *is* a waste of time, especially because you're adding nothing new to the table anyway.

 

[Ratchet]

if ratchet flips town i want everyone of yall ningens to claim tomorrow

honestly do it even if he flips scum, there shud only be 1 more left

Also I completely reject Ekko's attempted defence of my slot earlier, I think he should be in contention for the Day 4 lynch.

 

[Ratchet]

Fuji and Ichigo should never be lynched I don't think, Tweet obviously town too. I'm coming around to Fang being town. Bachi is town. The rest on some level do need to be considered.

 

[Lethal]

Fuji and Ichigo should never be lynched I don't think, Tweet obviously town too. I'm coming around to Fang being town. Bachi is town. The rest on some level do need to be considered.

But hE iS cOp CoNfIRmEd~!~!

 

[Ratchet]

Fuji and Ichigo should never be lynched I don't think, Tweet obviously town too. I'm coming around to Fang being town. Bachi is town. The rest on some level do need to be considered.

Which of course isn't to say that the PoE should be 9-wide. Basically I have the above and T-Pein as not going to lynch this game.

That leaves Ekko, Ultra, GoddessBlade, Great Potato, Lethal, CraigPelton. GoddessBlade we should be getting a sub for soon, can't work with this level of activity. GP should be town but hasn't had to do anything outside of sheeping Ultra, this will need to change later in the game. As for Lethal it bears noting that he had me at town yesterday, which makes his action choice strange once again. He should be in the primary PoE. Filling that out can be Craig and GoddessBlade, Ekko can go in there too (also bears noting that T-Pein is trending towards him being scum, and these two typically will work together at all costs so potentially something there). Ultra is there because if he can't lynch correctly Day 4 he would have been responsible for three mislynches which isn't really good enough and actually evidenced why he would bus as hard as he would have had to. Leave him until Day 5.

I think I'd probably flip Ekko or GoddessBlade next, hopefully the latter gets replaced so we have someone active to be read because we're getting to the stage in the game where we don't have too much room left after today (still 3 to 4 mislynches, but there is a lot of bleed protection for a duel so need to be careful for extra kills, I don't think they're present but you shouldn't safely assume we have lots of mislynches left to push).

All in all there should be room to lynch the PoE so I'm not too concerned.

 

[Lethal]

i meant if mafia busdrove ratchet with whicker then ur redirect wud go to whicker

heck u can faction kill ratchet and it'd also go to whicker. it's a good way to work around any protections whicker might have received

why'd u redirect ratchet and not fang?

Cool story but don’t let your complicated reasoning mask the truth.
Ratchet was targeted to expose a lie. Fang is no threat.

u have aurelian as locked scum, not sure why r u redirecting ratchet, the claimed vanilla, to himself. are you purposely doing stupid usages or soemthing

i think this is staged tbh

Not sure why you feel the need to insult my usage here. It’s unwarranted and undeserved and quite frankly I’m annoyed by the language used here.

im more interested in the fact that lethal never mentioned susing or interacted with ratchet before, usage came outta nowhere

Orly? So we didn’t argue earlier on? He hasn’t cased me and I didn’t lash back at him? Must’ve been a dream.

@Lethal aurelian is town, im gna need u to find another direction immediately

Yeah I’m not sold on it. His nervousness subsided once the vig and sk went away. Where is our elite solver?

You redirected a claimed VT? You realize that if ratchet is scum there was little chance he was going to use a role last night with a tracker and watcher possibly in play?

Also, this is a pretty convenient action to claim as there is literally no way for it to be confirmed or contradicted

Lel I had no idea of what was claimed. And this is a mighty leap to assume no usage cos maybe tracker or watcher - you slip man?
Ratchet could confirm but he’s claimed vt so I guess you’re right. Cookie?

magic town read ratchet for most of yesterday until the end where he changed and ultra used it agaisnt him

fuji town reads ratchet

im coming around to ratchet being town from his defense today. hes certainly coming off better than ultra/cp

i wouldnt mind a claim from these 2

also lethal's just scum, hes totally struggling to contribute anything meaningful and his usage doesnt track with gameplay

When all else fails, default to Lethal

Lethal is completely empty on adding anything of substance to the game.

Thanks for the encouragement. If only this was the dead chat you’d have it solved in a page