But then you kept framing it as town v town. If you don't have him as town don't you think waiting to see how he continues engaging aurelian was important?i had him more toward null, hence why addressed him with "if you are town please let him go for now"
i dont think BPD is scummy for the reasons fang is calling him strange for. BPD probably has more incentive to stay and clear his names as scum than town, so him taking his time to respond to weak accusations is generally townie
He's been wolf on NF and WG within the last couple of weeks.Jkk was his last scum game no?
Didn't you accuse me of going after aurelian and making him out to be scummy? This is before your accusations yet you dislike the same post I went onto question.Not a fan of this post
u had similar question to evans, i feel like my sentence was pretty clearSlight town read on evans for his opening too. The question directed at ekko mostly(and what he said about tpein).
Are you sussing me or have me as null as you later clarified - solely off of basically an angle shot from a past game that ended 3-4 weeks ago?He's been wolf on NF and WG within the last couple of weeks.
1. im asking bc if hes coached then only one purposely getting him to actually respond that way wud be magic, given how he initiated with vote on fang. unless u think he is told pregame to respond exactly in that way when sused and then magic just happened to coincidentally vote himYou're responding to an already conceded point, but to defend my post:
1 - it's not meaningless at all. Identifying coaching is one thing, but the actual identity of the coaches is a guess at this point. It might be possible to narrow it down based on the style of coaching, but even still the point is to establish scum in Fang, not who his team is. This doesn't make much sense Ekko.
2 - No, actually, if you look at his verbiage he plays very aggressively towards X very early on. It isn't in response to other pressure at all.
Neither Craig nor odo have said anything really to lean either way.Okay then lets go by your frame for that:
- read on Ekko
- read on Gramm
- read on Craig
I will say as well, of Magic is wolf, it could be an early attempt to get me on his side. I only voted for you because Magic's vote was the first in the game and i just wanted to sheep and cause a reaction. Wolf Magic could have seen an opportunity with what was unfolding to make that move
I didn't settle on a policy lynch, by default lynch I mean I'm keeping my vote there while the game evolves but if nothing else sounds good by EOD we should lynch EkkoWhat are your thoughts on them?
I don't think you believe this at all - strike 1.
Alright, this is more in line with town Fang.
You're not saying anything here though, do you have any actual leanings towards that or...?
I quoted this initially in disagreement but I'm actually okay with it having caught up, that said I don't like you settling on a policy lynch this early instead of just ignoring Ekko.
+1 to Town Fang, excellent.
Why do you think so? I want to give your some points for having the same process as I did initially but that will depend on your answer to be honest.
No, you won't be doing this. I don't know why you need to even mention bullying a player into subbing out honestly.
Agreed.
CP being genuinely concerned about you shutting down fluff posting.i belive all of it, but to play along, what part of that post u think i dont belive?
Right, but you can still have a bit of class about yourself too. You don't need to act like an ape to get your way.i have 0 sympathy for unhelpful slots that are being unhelpful for no reason
It is a thing, especially with Fang. I've been on a scum team with him, we were just one step shy of writing his posts for him. I was asked to elaborate below on why I thought it could be coached, so hopefully that explains my position!Is coaching really a thing? Why would Aurelian be coached? Why would coaching even take place? What does it even look like (is it someone else’s words entirely or edited by someone else?) This seems like a really weird take to me
@Black Pegged Dragon why did you like this post? Struggling g for content I'd pretty silly, especially when I've clearly had plenty to say!dare i say ur struggling for content, ratchet
Well it wasn't a town lean on Ekko, it was a town lean on X, aka BPD.Hello again my friend.
I don’t see how you can go from the first post to town lean on Ekko (unless X is someone else?)
Right, so your language towards X in particular was rather aggressive - frequent profanity etc. I've seen you respond like this when questioned, usually insulting the intelligence of the one pressuring you, but rarely have I seen you do it just because. So my first thought was "has someone is scum chat told him to be more aggressive with his language and posts, and this is his way of doing that?". Basically, it didn't feel natural to me. See below quotes for examples:Can you explain how and why you think I was being coached?
Fuck you scum boy this wasn't the plan we agreed to in scum chat
vote Magic
There was one more but I can't find it on ISO. Basically it just felt jarring to me, you even have a post talking about you being worked up (which you refuted) so I don't think my interpretation that it was unnatural is unfair.It could go on for forever but that's not the point, BPD drops two fluff posts, votes me then fucks off and you seem over eager to respond on his behalf so 'answering a question with a question' isn't gonna really fly for me. Gonna make this spicier though:
Vote BPD
do u wanna take the initiative and evolve the game?I didn't settle on a policy lynch, by default lynch I mean I'm keeping my vote there while the game evolves but if nothing else sounds good by EOD we should lynch Ekko
Magic compulsively coaches everyone on his team lolIs coaching really a thing? Why would Aurelian be coached? Why would coaching even take place? What does it even look like (is it someone else’s words entirely or edited by someone else?) This seems like a really weird take to me
Dear oh dear.also scum fang doesnt get this worked up over a random vote on him
nopedo u wanna take the initiative and evolve the game?
btw thoughts on ratchet and whicker?
i didnt say this though. i said cp wud not be good cuz hes under kekkotsuyomiCP being genuinely concerned about you shutting down fluff posting.
i asked him nicely at first. i dont think the reaction i received is deserved or is helpful at all. do u disagree?Right, but you can still have a bit of class about yourself too. You don't need to act like an ape to get your way.
the problem is he didnt listen to it so why wud he listen here this early. u shud atleast have a name or 2 in mind of who would attempt to coach him this early. ur giving bunch of weak sauces manIt is a thing, especially with Fang. I've been on a scum team with him, we were just one step shy of writing his posts for him. I was asked to elaborate below on why I thought it could be coached, so hopefully that explains my position!
I would throw Gram in there and CP too at a minimum. What I think/thought he could have been told pregame is that he needs to play aggressively otherwise he'd get caught, and this could be that in action.1. im asking bc if hes coached then only one purposely getting him to actually respond that way wud be magic, given how he initiated with vote on fang. unless u think he is told pregame to respond exactly in that way when sused and then magic just happened to coincidentally vote him
You really need to learn that your thought processes are not the only genuine ones someone can have. I think he would be and was prone to coaching, he just didn't act on the advice enough. For the majority of the things we were telling him to do, he took on board, he just played sloppily.also u recently played a scum game with fang urself and know he isnt rly prone to being coached / he does what he wants so the thought doesnt seem to be very genuine / not properly thought out
I'm not talking about his voting patterns. Reactionary here is probably better replaced with provocation but I think it fits fine anyway - the point is he isn't using profanity to demean his interlocutors, he's just using it off the cuff/before it's earned.2. its not a response to pressure its a response to a vote and dip by BPD. eitherway it was reactionary to something that happened. actually fang voted exactly the 2 people that voted him. it cant be any more reactionary than this no?
You repeatedly said afterwards that it's town v town and to drop it. My issue isn't with the "if bpd is town leave fang", it's what you were saying as it continued to drag on. Bpd didn't even drop it after that initial post and yet you got more confident calling it town v town.u had similar question to evans, i feel like my sentence was pretty clear
i dont want town v town. if BPD is town i suggested him to leave fang
it doesnt say i know BPD is town
evans get no town read for that question
so why do u want to lynch the people trying to "evolve the game" if you are just waiting for it to evolve?nope
whicker feels town. like what ratchet's putting down thus far.
I didn't last game!Magic compulsively coaches everyone on his team lol
I don't agree that Aurelian feels coached tho
Disagree on whicker, agree on ratchet. Whicker accusation against me doesn't make sense when he also didn't like aurelian. There's no consistency in that train of thought.nope
whicker feels town. like what ratchet's putting down thus far.
Alright, so here is the context:i didnt say this though. i said cp wud not be good cuz hes under kekkotsuyomi
You good?
You mention shutting off fluff posting and beginning your infamous tunnel kekko-yumi whatever, I'm saying I don't think you believe you're applying genuine pressure or concern to him. If you say otherwise then sure I guess, I think it's a silly statement, plausibly an ingenuine one too.im cutting the fluff short (if there was any) and starting this game right from page 2 and putting him under kekkotsuyomi from the start, so no, he's probably not good
thoughts on atleast one of cp/gram being scum?
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