Game Ranked Skyrim Mafia

[Magic]

i had him more toward null, hence why addressed him with "if you are town please let him go for now"

i dont think BPD is scummy for the reasons fang is calling him strange for. BPD probably has more incentive to stay and clear his names as scum than town, so him taking his time to respond to weak accusations is generally townie

But then you kept framing it as town v town. If you don't have him as town don't you think waiting to see how he continues engaging aurelian was important?

I did like the fact he disengaged or wanted to tho. Very easy as scum to just keep going at him.

 

[The X]

Jkk was his last scum game no?

He's been wolf on NF and WG within the last couple of weeks.

 

[Magic]

Not a fan of this post

Didn't you accuse me of going after aurelian and making him out to be scummy? This is before your accusations yet you dislike the same post I went onto question.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Slight town read on evans for his opening too. The question directed at ekko mostly(and what he said about tpein).

u had similar question to evans, i feel like my sentence was pretty clear

i dont want town v town. if BPD is town i suggested him to leave fang

it doesnt say i know BPD is town

evans get no town read for that question

 

[Aurelian]

He's been wolf on NF and WG within the last couple of weeks.

Are you sussing me or have me as null as you later clarified - solely off of basically an angle shot from a past game that ended 3-4 weeks ago?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

You're responding to an already conceded point, but to defend my post:

1 - it's not meaningless at all. Identifying coaching is one thing, but the actual identity of the coaches is a guess at this point. It might be possible to narrow it down based on the style of coaching, but even still the point is to establish scum in Fang, not who his team is. This doesn't make much sense Ekko.

2 - No, actually, if you look at his verbiage he plays very aggressively towards X very early on. It isn't in response to other pressure at all.

1. im asking bc if hes coached then only one purposely getting him to actually respond that way wud be magic, given how he initiated with vote on fang. unless u think he is told pregame to respond exactly in that way when sused and then magic just happened to coincidentally vote him

also u recently played a scum game with fang urself and know he isnt rly prone to being coached / he does what he wants so the thought doesnt seem to be very genuine / not properly thought out

2. its not a response to pressure its a response to a vote and dip by BPD. eitherway it was reactionary to something that happened. actually fang voted exactly the 2 people that voted him. it cant be any more reactionary than this no?

 

[Magic]

Okay then lets go by your frame for that:

- read on Ekko
- read on Gramm
- read on Craig

Neither Craig nor odo have said anything really to lean either way.

Ekko feels different from his recent games in that he's trying to take more of a leadership position off the bat and I wasn't a fan of him calling you/bpd town/town while bot recalling having a read on him.

 

[Magic]

I will say as well, of Magic is wolf, it could be an early attempt to get me on his side. I only voted for you because Magic's vote was the first in the game and i just wanted to sheep and cause a reaction. Wolf Magic could have seen an opportunity with what was unfolding to make that move

What move?

 

[Arne Slot]

What are your thoughts on them?
I don't think you believe this at all - strike 1.
Alright, this is more in line with town Fang.
You're not saying anything here though, do you have any actual leanings towards that or...?
I quoted this initially in disagreement but I'm actually okay with it having caught up, that said I don't like you settling on a policy lynch this early instead of just ignoring Ekko.
+1 to Town Fang, excellent.
Why do you think so? I want to give your some points for having the same process as I did initially but that will depend on your answer to be honest.
No, you won't be doing this. I don't know why you need to even mention bullying a player into subbing out honestly.
Agreed.

I didn't settle on a policy lynch, by default lynch I mean I'm keeping my vote there while the game evolves but if nothing else sounds good by EOD we should lynch Ekko

 

[Ratchet]

i belive all of it, but to play along, what part of that post u think i dont belive?

CP being genuinely concerned about you shutting down fluff posting.

i have 0 sympathy for unhelpful slots that are being unhelpful for no reason

Right, but you can still have a bit of class about yourself too. You don't need to act like an ape to get your way.

Is coaching really a thing? Why would Aurelian be coached? Why would coaching even take place? What does it even look like (is it someone else’s words entirely or edited by someone else?) This seems like a really weird take to me

It is a thing, especially with Fang. I've been on a scum team with him, we were just one step shy of writing his posts for him. I was asked to elaborate below on why I thought it could be coached, so hopefully that explains my position!

dare i say ur struggling for content, ratchet

@Black Pegged Dragon why did you like this post? Struggling g for content I'd pretty silly, especially when I've clearly had plenty to say!

Hello again my friend.



I don’t see how you can go from the first post to town lean on Ekko (unless X is someone else?)

Well it wasn't a town lean on Ekko, it was a town lean on X, aka BPD.

Can you explain how and why you think I was being coached?

Right, so your language towards X in particular was rather aggressive - frequent profanity etc. I've seen you respond like this when questioned, usually insulting the intelligence of the one pressuring you, but rarely have I seen you do it just because. So my first thought was "has someone is scum chat told him to be more aggressive with his language and posts, and this is his way of doing that?". Basically, it didn't feel natural to me. See below quotes for examples:

Fuck you scum boy this wasn't the plan we agreed to in scum chat

vote Magic

It could go on for forever but that's not the point, BPD drops two fluff posts, votes me then fucks off and you seem over eager to respond on his behalf so 'answering a question with a question' isn't gonna really fly for me. Gonna make this spicier though:

Vote BPD

There was one more but I can't find it on ISO. Basically it just felt jarring to me, you even have a post talking about you being worked up (which you refuted) so I don't think my interpretation that it was unnatural is unfair.

Which reminds me I need to check who that was in response to - if its Ekko he would have basically seen exactly what I did, so him not mentioning that is a pretty bad look.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I didn't settle on a policy lynch, by default lynch I mean I'm keeping my vote there while the game evolves but if nothing else sounds good by EOD we should lynch Ekko

do u wanna take the initiative and evolve the game?

btw thoughts on ratchet and whicker?

 

[Arne Slot]

Is coaching really a thing? Why would Aurelian be coached? Why would coaching even take place? What does it even look like (is it someone else’s words entirely or edited by someone else?) This seems like a really weird take to me

Magic compulsively coaches everyone on his team lol

I don't agree that Aurelian feels coached tho

 

[Ratchet]

also scum fang doesnt get this worked up over a random vote on him

Dear oh dear.
Ekko you clearly see something similar to what I did in Fang's posting - you read it differently but the idea was that his entrance was more aggressive than usual...

We apparently identified the same thing and went in opposite directions with it. Why are you not showing any consideration for this?

 

[Arne Slot]

do u wanna take the initiative and evolve the game?

btw thoughts on ratchet and whicker?

nope

whicker feels town. like what ratchet's putting down thus far.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

CP being genuinely concerned about you shutting down fluff posting.

i didnt say this though. i said cp wud not be good cuz hes under kekkotsuyomi

Right, but you can still have a bit of class about yourself too. You don't need to act like an ape to get your way.

i asked him nicely at first. i dont think the reaction i received is deserved or is helpful at all. do u disagree?

It is a thing, especially with Fang. I've been on a scum team with him, we were just one step shy of writing his posts for him. I was asked to elaborate below on why I thought it could be coached, so hopefully that explains my position!

the problem is he didnt listen to it so why wud he listen here this early. u shud atleast have a name or 2 in mind of who would attempt to coach him this early. ur giving bunch of weak sauces man

 

[Ratchet]

1. im asking bc if hes coached then only one purposely getting him to actually respond that way wud be magic, given how he initiated with vote on fang. unless u think he is told pregame to respond exactly in that way when sused and then magic just happened to coincidentally vote him

I would throw Gram in there and CP too at a minimum. What I think/thought he could have been told pregame is that he needs to play aggressively otherwise he'd get caught, and this could be that in action.

also u recently played a scum game with fang urself and know he isnt rly prone to being coached / he does what he wants so the thought doesnt seem to be very genuine / not properly thought out

You really need to learn that your thought processes are not the only genuine ones someone can have. I think he would be and was prone to coaching, he just didn't act on the advice enough. For the majority of the things we were telling him to do, he took on board, he just played sloppily.

2. its not a response to pressure its a response to a vote and dip by BPD. eitherway it was reactionary to something that happened. actually fang voted exactly the 2 people that voted him. it cant be any more reactionary than this no?

I'm not talking about his voting patterns. Reactionary here is probably better replaced with provocation but I think it fits fine anyway - the point is he isn't using profanity to demean his interlocutors, he's just using it off the cuff/before it's earned.

I think that's enough of me talking about a position I've since discarded though.

 

[Magic]

u had similar question to evans, i feel like my sentence was pretty clear

i dont want town v town. if BPD is town i suggested him to leave fang

it doesnt say i know BPD is town

evans get no town read for that question

You repeatedly said afterwards that it's town v town and to drop it. My issue isn't with the "if bpd is town leave fang", it's what you were saying as it continued to drag on. Bpd didn't even drop it after that initial post and yet you got more confident calling it town v town.

If I'm wrong you can show me.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

nope

whicker feels town. like what ratchet's putting down thus far.

so why do u want to lynch the people trying to "evolve the game" if you are just waiting for it to evolve?

 

[Magic]

Magic compulsively coaches everyone on his team lol

I don't agree that Aurelian feels coached tho

I didn't last game!

And no i dont.

nope

whicker feels town. like what ratchet's putting down thus far.

Disagree on whicker, agree on ratchet. Whicker accusation against me doesn't make sense when he also didn't like aurelian. There's no consistency in that train of thought.

 

[Ratchet]

i didnt say this though. i said cp wud not be good cuz hes under kekkotsuyomi

Alright, so here is the context:

You good?

im cutting the fluff short (if there was any) and starting this game right from page 2 and putting him under kekkotsuyomi from the start, so no, he's probably not good

thoughts on atleast one of cp/gram being scum?

You mention shutting off fluff posting and beginning your infamous tunnel kekko-yumi whatever, I'm saying I don't think you believe you're applying genuine pressure or concern to him. If you say otherwise then sure I guess, I think it's a silly statement, plausibly an ingenuine one too.