I didn't exaggerate shit. You entirely assigned the 10 seconds of him holding the ship together to the bots and then the webbing.
Yes you did exaggerate shit Einstein. You tried to pass off Holland spamming webbing to hold the Ferry together for a few seconds as his own strength when that was just the webbing and when he tried to hold it with his strength after that failed it proceeded to fall apart despite that.
You are wrong on both counts. He held it himself using the webbing as the tool to allow him to apply his strength. His arms are pulled fully sure. It hurt him sure. But he actively held it stationary for at least 5 seconds. Cased closed.
Wrong. He held nothing. Did you even watch the scene? the ship kept moving despite him trying to pull it and all he did at best was slow it.
The suit had been repaired by that point since the initial battle. You can see there is no damage to the suit.
How repaired? Tony had little time after the battle to get it fully repaired and the fact he was injured would also hamper his performance since he needs his limbs in order to even pilot the thing properly.
The movie actively address that TONY is injured. I never said Tony wasn't injured. Tony's suit is unharmed. You are either ignoring what I said or being disingenuous once again. So spare me.
Having a clean paint job does not make the suit fresh and considering how lousy that Suit's performance was throughout the entire movie it's doubtful it was ever in top shape with how Cap and Bucky were doing a better job against Tony then fucking Thor was in the original Avengers against a weaker suit. You're just arguing semantics at this point to try to derail the thread so piss off with that.
Not trying to save face. There is just no quantifiable way of measuring the feat. But way to be pissy and petty. Never seen you act this way before.
You literally said he was "lifting up the factory to get free from being pinned" then when the scene is actually posted it was anything but that and then you tried to move the goal post by talking about the debris around it when it still does not come close to your original claim, now you're just trying to brush it off and focus on the Cul feat when I said from the start that was the only impressive feat you mentioned. You're being a hypocritical cunt right now trying to call me out for being pissy when you were the first one to start acting like that to begin with after I responded with just around two posts without ever insulting you. How about read your own posts before replying smartass.
Those feats are legit. You still are ignoring Cul's showing because it literally contradicts your everything you are saying.
"ignoring" earth to jackass, I literally said from the start Cul is the only feat worth mentioning
Holland never held together the ship, it was confirmed to be Stark's Bots that did it, the "factory" was just some rubble, we have nothing indicating it was the whole factory itself. Only stopping Cul's strike is anything impressive.
Are you on your PMS month or something? you're bitchy attitude you got going on seems to be causing you to miss what my posts were even talking about.
Yeah because he is not actively trying to kill these people NF. It's literally the entire plot of the movie. He's actively not utilizing his full abilities because he's not wanting to murder anyone. Once again ignoring, but this time the entire plot of the movie.
Xho already posted how full of shit you are. Holland was not holding back enough to not try to get some serious hits on Osborn and yet he still did almost nothing and got his ass kicked. He dropped kicked him through concrete and Osborne got right up without any issue, hell when Holland was trying to punch him repeatedly Osborne was fucking smiling showing off how little it effected him. In comprehension he made sure to grab and block Tobey's first hit at him and tried to not get hit which tells us even when both are holding back Osborne takes Tobey's strength more seriously.
Tobey did not put up a better performance against Goblin. Their entire fight lasted nearly 5 minutes where he was getting shit-stomped until he pulled it out at the end. Holland beat Goblin down in around 1 minute during their battle when he was going for the kill.
Wrong, he did. You clearly did not pay attention to any of the previous fights before the final one
Gets a drop kick in while Goblin is distracted that knocked him off his glider, first time he tries to get a punch in Goblin blocks it, the fact he had his helmet on and still did that whereas he was laughing at Holland's punches he took with his exposed face should clue you in on something, and while he is focused on saving MJ he is still able to get a few hits in while receiving the worst of the exchange, and is then able to react despite focusing more on MJ to block Goblin's vision and cause his glider to malfunction. Considering that Holland was not only facing a partially armored Goblin, without his Glider most of the time, and with the Iron Spider Suit on, the fact is he performed much worse then Tobey did in his first fight.
Goblin starts off tricking him into a burning building and surprises him with a punch to the face and then proceeds to throw flying razors at him which he dodge all but one of them in the whole fight and despite being in a clear disadvantage in both environment and the tech surrounding him Tobey gets the better of the exchange and lays a combo on Norman that knocks him back and allows him to escape. Clearly looking more to get out rather then fight he performed way better then Holland did.
As for the last fight you ignore how the big reason Tobey was getting his ass beat was due to Goblin grabbing him with a wire and throwing him into the abandoned building and then right after hitting him with a Goblin Bomb that he took right in his face leaving him completely disoriented. Dude was barely able to find his footing much less focus on fighting Norman and in the same time despite taking way more damage immediately turned the tide when told MJ would die in about the same if not less time then Holland did.
So I need to ask, did you even watch the Raimi films?
I don't know how many times I have to say this, but they are all comparable to one another. However, to say that Holland is below the other two when we are directly shown that he has better physical feats than either is blatant downplay.
Except there is a clear distinction between Tobey and Holland that you are amendment to not accept while you try in vain to portray his feats as better when they have been shown to most assuredly not be. Hell you ignore how when Holland was bloodlusted and trying to kill Goblin with the Glider Tobey was there to hold him back and did so with almost no strain at all.
