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To Aru Majutsu No Index Feats/Discussion/Analysis Thread - One Othinus To Rule Them All

Nah, we'll just turn it into a bigger disaster somehow. 🥹
By the way, why don't all of you at VSBW take the Meltdowner as near light speed when it is considered as an electron beam, it has difraction, it is mentioned that to replicate the Meltdowner need something like a particle accelerator (which still moves particles at almost the speed of light) and that in ToAru many lasers have already been seen that are indeed light speed on the science side.

I understand that it is not taken with light magic because if so, even Kuroko would be FTL but the Meltdowner thing is strange, they have even taken less precise things like light speed in other series.
 
By the way, why don't all of you at VSBW take the Meltdowner as near light speed when it is considered as an electron beam, it has difraction, it is mentioned that to replicate the Meltdowner need something like a particle accelerator (which still moves particles at almost the speed of light) and that in ToAru many lasers have already been seen that are indeed light speed on the science side.

I understand that it is not taken with light magic because if so, even Kuroko would be FTL but the Meltdowner thing is strange, they have even taken less precise things like light speed in other series.
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Does anyone know what DC is talking about with points 2 - 4? :tearspepe
 
you yourself know.

Destroying the Pure world destroys everything else cause pure world=foundation

the phases being folded up is based on something Coronzon said.
I know that but he's somehow twisting that to mean that Phases aren't actually separate dimensions and thus multiversal To Aru isn't a thing :giogio
 
or rather, they're supposedly more "fragile" than actual universes and therefore destroying them isn't universal :smh
 
Phases are constantly revolving around the center (Pure World) which stabilizes their movements enough that it’s merely the occasional bumps and scrapes against each other, which increase in frequency as more magic is called upon the Phases by humans.

Coronzon’s plan with the destruction of the Pure World would lead to uncontrollable full on collisions between Phases with no center foundation supporting them, eventually destroying everything.

I’d hardly downplay it as just the sparks and sprays made from their controlled collisions does shit like screw with the laws of causality and cause irreversible fates to magicians at some random point in the future.

Crowley’s baby daughter being fated to die at an appointed time and his later fate of being destined to fail at anything when he destroyed his entire Cabal in a futile attempt to overturn his daughter’s fate is why he hated Magic so much that destroying it all is the cause of his motivation.

Coronzon has also outright stated in her explanation for how she plans to destroy everything that the universe the entire story takes place in is a Phase

Also, World Rejector’s isolated timeline is among the Phases since she aimed to have the Magic Gods there, another group that refuses to die to natural breakdown thanks to their immutable existence, be destroyed too
 
or rather, they're supposedly more "fragile" than actual universes and therefore destroying them isn't universal :smh
Bunch of bullshit, you can make an argument for phases being stronger because of them containing beings that can fuck up the universe with their presence.
 
Don’t see what the big deal is. One of the theories to prove Multiverse Theory in real life is that out there, there’s region of space of our known universe with bizarre properties that’s believed to have been as a result of a collision with another universe
 
Honestly not even that wild. You got lower level Espers being able to keep up with Misaka in a fight.

We’ve also seen Kuroko rather effortlessly avoid Misaka’s lightning too.
Although it cannot be measured exactly, almost all espers must have high reactions or processing speeds due to having to do complex calculations to use their powers in the middle of combat with the exception of Gemstones.

With that they would have many reactions and yes, Kuroko legitimately reacted to Misaka's lightning in the anime, but I was referring in my previous comment that in the Railgun SS, there is a scene where Kuroko dodges a rain of light magic, I understand that taking that as Light Speed is controversial (and that was Aztec magic, which has been shown to have Light Speed spells possible FTL)
 
Although it cannot be measured exactly, almost all espers must have high reactions or processing speeds due to having to do complex calculations to use their powers in the middle of combat with the exception of Gemstones.

With that they would have many reactions and yes, Kuroko legitimately reacted to Misaka's lightning in the anime, but I was referring in my previous comment that in the Railgun SS, there is a scene where Kuroko dodges a rain of light magic, I understand that taking that as Light Speed is controversial (and that was Aztec magic, which has been shown to have Light Speed spells possible FTL)
the accelerator processing speed feat in question :mjpls
 

Found it.

Personally, I don’t believe in a multiverse in real life. Nothing’s bee proven and it frankly takes more faith to believe in this theory than the existence of God.

But this is an interesting read
 
the accelerator processing speed feat in question :mjpls
Yes, but it is the one with the greatest processing capacity, so it is not scalable to any.

It is only known that teleporters like Kuroko must also have a high level of processing but she does not have something to measure it exactly, so we know that they are superhuman but at the moment I have not seen a way to measure their calculation capacity exactly.
 
Yes, but it is the one with the greatest processing capacity, so it is not scalable to any.

It is only known that teleporters like Kuroko must also have a high level of processing but she does not have something to measure it exactly, so we know that they are superhuman but at the moment I have not seen a way to measure their calculation capacity exactly.
I mean, it doesn't scale to other Espers, but it should scale to other top tiers that can fight on even terms with him, no?
 
I mean, it doesn't scale to other Espers, but it should scale to other top tiers that can fight on even terms with him, no?
Maybe?

I mean, Accelerator is about processing speed and not displacement so not everyone who has fought him should scale, especially those who are noticeably weaker than him or who took him by surprise and obvious outliers like Kihara...

But characters that have legitimately blitzed him and his vector field should theoretically outpace his processing power.

But I don't remember any character capable of doing that except a Magic God, but if I remember correctly, a grimoire also exceeds the calculation speed of Accelerator, but I don't know who exceeds the processing capacity of a grimoire, Aiwass? Anna? Ollerus? Coronzon?

I haven't thought carefully about it but it could be a starting point for a power scaling chain.
 
Before I deviate with the point of the calculation ability of espers.

Kakine when fighting Accelerator, he had to perform more than 25,000 calculations.

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/ka...ought-reaction-attack-speed-mach-73-5.930325/
Some time ago it was calculated as mach 70+ because they took 1 second as a time frame.

But now that I think about it, in that fight they were both moving at speeds greater than the speed of sound.

“I don’t want to lay hands on normal people either. If I’m in a good mood I’ll even let bad guys off. Having said that, I don’t really care if those people live or die. Aren’t you the same? In our battle just then, how many spectators and bystanders have got hurt? Cement and asphalt were traveling over the speed of sound, and shock-waves wiped out everything. That’s the kind of battle between us.”

Given that they collided at those speeds, Kakine must have used his calculations or he would have been thrown.

Speed of sound: 343 m/s
Time frame to travel at least 1 meter at that speed: 1/343 = 0.00291545189 s

Kakine calc speed: 25000 calcs/ 0.00291545189 seg = 8575000.01483
calc/s or 0.028c

Maybe it's not the correct way to measure it, it's also that Accelerator shoot an attack faster than a Railgun at Kakine and he threw an attack at him in response, if someone gets the distances right, it could give a better result, be it a little more or a little less, but it is an example of what the calculation capacity of an Esper would imply for everything they must do to be able to fight.

The vectors of the pebbles were changed and were fired off faster than a Railgun, but vanished after a few millimetres. However, the pressure waves did not vanish, and the attack felt as if it would tear the very air apart. But, Kakine also put strength into his wings and scattered the attack. The waves of attacks between the two clashes against one another, sent a ‘tsunami’ of air throughout their surroundings and blew streetlights and advertisement signs into the air
 
If it ever becomes clear exactly how many calculations Kuroko has to do to teleport, her feat of dodging Misaka's lightning bolts would be considerably more impressive.
 
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