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To Aru Majutsu No Index Feats/Discussion/Analysis Thread - One Othinus To Rule Them All

Astaro

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Can already tell this volume is going to be beating Touma over about his inability to save Alice, partially out of his own recklessness with saving Anna

Which is true, between Alice and Anna, Alice was way more deserving for actually being a decent person

Just wondering if this time, Kamachi is going to go all the way through with this to where Touma actually has to put down Alice for good as the undead curse she now is.

Failure is one thing, but Touma actually having to kill someone he was previously a friend to is a whole other thing
 

Paxton

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Damn... and the IT that Othinus crushed was weaker than it was against Fiamma

he really doesn't have any anti-feats to speak of
 

Paxton

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- NT20

Espers are stated to not be incompatible with magic because they contain sparks and sprays within them.

(a common misconception that fans of the series seem to have)
 

Paxton

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Where was it stated it was weaker against Othinus than it was against Fiamma?
It seems you produced decent results during the final stages of World War III, but is this all I find when I open the lid?
- NT4


The wording Othinus uses doesn't make much sense if it's the same strength it was against Fiamma in WW3.
If it were the same strength, it wouldn't be so underwhelming to her.


That's how I see it, anyway.
 
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Astaro

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- NT4


The wording Othinus uses doesn't make much sense if it's the same strength it was against Fiamma in WW3.
If it were the same strength, it wouldn't be so underwhelming to her.


That's how I see it, anyway.
I saw it more like its power has developed but than she asks if that’s all it’s capable of at the moment.

We know each time Imagine Breaker is destroyed, the stuff released afterwards becomes both harder to control and more powerful / evolved
 

Paxton

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While we're on the subject, what are all of the quotes where it's actually said that the things within Touma are getting stronger?




Just recently I've started to think about the potential option of the things within him being no weaker or stronger at any given time, but the idea that Touma himself is the one manifesting them at different levels of strength, i.e., Touma himself is the one growing in strength, not the Invisible Thing.


It seems pretty obvious that depending on Touma's intent/will to kill, he generally gets a lot stronger or pulls out stronger things in his arsenal, so it'd track if that were the case
 
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Paxton

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All of that could just be Touma/KnT (or Touma's true self, if you want to call it that) getting stronger and manifesting them differently like I said, tbf
 

Astaro

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Touma noting the thing that emerged from Imagine Breaker being destroyed in his clash with Kamisato’s World Rejector was both different and much stronger than the entity that emerged when against Othinus


Coronzon destroying Imagine Breaker was the last straw as the power becomes uncontrollable now

 

Paxton

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I've been thinking it over repeatedly and I'm still not sure if the "which refuses to break down and lurks within" is referring to two separate things or not

i.e. that which refuses to break down
and that which lurks within
 

Astaro

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Imagine Breaker is that which refuses to break down as Coronzon herself said


And that which lurks within is referring to all the supernatural fuckery sealed within Imagine Breaker that’s let loose every time Touma loses his arm
 

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Accelerator's profile is so bad he's getting put up against city level niggas

The only set of people I've seen running on pure head canon than the Toaru fandom are SB/SV fanfic writers. People are using fear aura as an argument in that vs battle thread when Misha could straight up one shot people with killing intent. There's straight up death hax from pure fear in the setting. There's literally no accurate complete power scaling thread for Toaru on the internet. None.
 

Paxton

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DT indirectly saying any random ass ghost across fiction would be able to be unaffected by Accelerator's ability
 

Astaro

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Accel’s powers worked on spiritual / energy beings every time he fights an Angel.

The form of an angel was basically a mass of energy, they had no physical body. More accurately, their bodies were not composed of physical matter.

Current Accel can literally yeet out souls, and on the science side of things, his powers have worked on gravity and even spatial manipulation when he Reflects being teleported

When he reflected teleportation powers, a strange phenomenon occurred in the 3 dimensional world, but this had felt entirely different.
 

Paxton

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lmao DT's literally arguing against what the non-physical interaction/incorporeality page on vsb directly says

his hatred towards To Aru upgrades is almost comical