Dr_Professor83
Greatest Loser
Thinking about it more, this also reminds me how he called out the hider claim from Naomi in JJK
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Dr_Professor83
Greatest Loser
(Although you were part of that too but still, it’s an angle he used against Naomi that game as scum)
Lindltaylor
Paramount
Yeah, I don't mind the Ultra lynch honestly. I'm gonna assume that Tweet's kill likely came from Ratchet, but will wait for him to confirm.
Lindltaylor
Paramount
At this point Reloaded and Ichigo can just be town. Don't wanna think too much on that. I'll put Tempest back to null.
No idea why Gad claimed VT unprompted back there, but I think Gad and Ultra might have equity on the chance that Ultra is scum, and in that case, I can reconcile Ultra's play around Gad along those lines.
No idea why Gad claimed VT unprompted back there, but I think Gad and Ultra might have equity on the chance that Ultra is scum, and in that case, I can reconcile Ultra's play around Gad along those lines.
Jaguark101
Illustrious
I get your point on the Ultra issue but I'm also conflicted as he spent the majority of the last day on you due to his claim etc.
If he's scum then fine but if he's town then his forcefulness to get you out makes sense considering what he claims to have seen. It'd be extremely detrimental for him to go this far in on you of he didnt believe what he saw.
Once again i get your point on it but I'll wait to see how this day goes before voting.
Lindltaylor
Paramount
Who did you target with your ability last night and where do you stand with your reads?
What he saw was proven incorrect and he's not a noob like you. No idea why you have such a strong town read on ultra unless you want to chime in.
Lindltaylor
Paramount
I get your point on Ultra since I considered it as well, but at this point with the remaining players, it seems that I've mis-cleared quite a few and really just need to reevaluate a lot here.
He's also only read town as scum so far. He voted sig, melkor, and thought aurelian was scum too.
So unless you're with him jag, which your reaction isn't the best as you're new and not likely being advised at this moment as they're not online, then there's no reason for you to take a resistive stance on ultra.
@Tempest do shit.
So unless you're with him jag, which your reaction isn't the best as you're new and not likely being advised at this moment as they're not online, then there's no reason for you to take a resistive stance on ultra.
@Tempest do shit.
Jaguark101
Illustrious
I dont have a "strong" town read on him It's just from what I observed when reading the posts form last day. Once again I get your point about you have said though.
Jaguark101
Illustrious
I didn't use my gunsmith at all last night. I've only got one left and am saving it for when needed.
Jaguark101
Illustrious
I can go back and re read though.
Jaguark101
Illustrious
Lindltaylor
Paramount
Luka looks best to me here, followed maybe by Gram. Honestly, I still consider Gram's handling of the day 1 lynch on Melkor to be genuine town confusion from his PoV.
Lethal, well, he did have a post supporting Sigi last day phase when he quoted me. Said something like "On OLF, a slip need not always be a scum slip" or something like that and he felt too forceful towards Mango too. Especially for someone who was really just inactive like he was. It came off like he didn't care how he appeared. I'd probably give him a pass for now.
Dr_Professor83
Greatest Loser
You don’t think Gram’s handling couldn’t just be scum with tmi?
Especially since afterwards he went immediately to Ratchet as indie the next day and how we won’t have duplicate vigs (if he believed Melkor D1 I think Ratchet should get heavy scrutiny there at the time)
Lindltaylor
Paramount
Hmm, abstaining wouldn't have been my choice there as any information is valuable here.
Where are you with the other slots apart from Ultra / Magic?
Dr_Professor83
Greatest Loser
If I believe that there’s no way we have 2 vigs. And I’m believing Melkor (which he was leaning towards), then my next step is to be pretty hard on Ratchet at the time or preemptively telling people he’s gonna have to go if Melkor flips town before the night
Dr_Professor83
Greatest Loser
Instead he kind of just leaned toward believing Melkor but letting it happen and wasn’t really scrutinizing Ratchet when it was happening (very passive which he’s been this game)
Then the next day starts saying Ratchet is indie
Then the next day starts saying Ratchet is indie
Dr_Professor83
Greatest Loser
He’s also taken the save Ratchet for later angle (which makes sense as a position but also benefits scum if Ultra is scum bc Ratchet has been the biggest deterrent to Ultra’s lynch and him not being flipped as indie helps Ultra stay up longer)
Lindltaylor
Paramount
It could be TMI. In fact, what's giving me doubts is the way he handled that EoD. I would handle the situation in confusion as well and most likely behave in a similar manner.
From Gram's PoV - a ranked game can't have more than 1 vig. If he's scum, he could have doubled down on Melkor D1 and then gone at Ratchet intensely D2 citing the ranked rules as the reason. He has a pretty solid reason to bite hard as scum, and he just... doesn't.
I'm not sure why he wouldn't as scum when opportunity presents itself.
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